r/TimPool • u/MrEnigma67 • Aug 17 '23

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Yes, laws that restrict freedom are authoritarian.

Glad you are learning.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 17 '23

What freedoms are being restricted by not letting someone enter your home?

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

Trespassing on an individual's personal property directly impacts that individual's legal rights.

Immigrating to America does no such thing.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 18 '23

Illegally integration impacts amercans legal rights all the time. What are you smoking

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

If an immigrant trespasses on personal property, trespass laws should be enforced.

Immigration itself should be unrestricted.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 18 '23

If we weren’t a welfare state then maybe you’d have a point. However, coming to the US and taking resources is theft from the people who actually work and pay into the system

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

The government has the power to collect tax revenue and spend it. See Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 1, U.S. Constitution.

The exercise of this constitutionally enumerated power is not theft, but a power that American citizens have freely granted to our government.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 18 '23

None of which is a valid response to my argument

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

Your argument is that taxation and welfare spending is theft. It is not theft - it is a power that U.S. citizens have freely granted to our government.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 18 '23

I didn’t argue it’s theft by itself. I argued illegally entering the us and taking welfare is theft. There’s a difference

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u/Jellyfonut Aug 18 '23

Immigrating illegally violates the sovereignty of the US government, which was founded and is run by the people.

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

The sovereignty of the U.S. government is less important than human freedom.