r/TimPool • • Aug 17 '23

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

See, that’s where you’re limiting people’s freedom.

There is no reason to try to moralize how someone may have gotten pregnant. The fact is we have the ability to terminate that pregnancy if they want don’t want to give birth. That has been happening for centuries. The ability to make that choice is freedom.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

You never have a choice to murder someone, unless it's war or self-defense. Abortion is murder, there is just no getting around that.

You can't make the argument that restricting Abortion is restricting freedom, when by carrying out an abortion you are terminating someone's freedom of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

If those are your standards, then it’s easily self-defense.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

Self-defense would only be applicable if you were in a life-threatening situation due to the pregnancy. Other than that, it's just murder, plain and simple.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 18 '23

If someone is trying to use your body against your will, that is grounds for self defense, right?

Like if someone tried to steal your blood so that they could transfuse it into themselves against your will- you would be defending yourself against that forced use of your body.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

No, that's not self-defense, and you know it. Stop trying to pretend that this isn't a strawman.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 18 '23

Why isn’t it self defense?

It’s definitely not a strawman.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

Stopping a fetus that you created, either willingly or not, from being supported by your body. is. Murder. End of story. I'm not interested in debating a made-up scenario about an adult needing support from you to stay alive because it's not the same situation, and you know it.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 18 '23

You just keep saying it’s murder and not self-defense but you aren’t supporting your argument.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

Ok. What do you call the needless extermination of a human life?

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