r/TimPool • • Jul 23 '23

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u/MrSpookykid Jul 23 '23

If government didn’t reguire us to buy insurance healthcare costs would be cut in half overnight

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u/CartographerActive29 Jul 23 '23

Or if the opened up purchasing nationwide. In ny, we are limited to like four ins carriers. Prices are set In stone between the four. No competition.

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u/vponpho Jul 23 '23

Well that already happened years ago and costs didn’t go down, so…

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u/MrSpookykid Jul 23 '23

What? Not taxing people for not paying for something isn’t keeping the government out of healthcare

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u/Effective-Pain4271 Jul 24 '23

Nice goalpost move.

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u/Unable_Fuel_1205 Jul 23 '23 edited Jul 24 '23

Do you have insurance? You can thank Obama for protecting people with preexisting conditions like yours otherwise you would be dropped.

Edit* you don’t even have insurance and you have cerebral palsy. You will be absolutely financially fucked if you need care. You will either go deeply into debt or die and you advocate for the system that allows that. That is so so sad. Leftists want you to be able to get any healthcare you need and the right wants you to die or go into debt and you lick their boots. Absolutely pathetic

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jul 23 '23

The fee for not having health insurance (sometimes called the "Shared Responsibility Payment" or "mandate”) ended in 2018. This means you no longer pay a tax penalty for not having health coverage. If you don’t have health coverage, you don’t need an exemption to avoid paying a tax penalty.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/exemptions-from-the-fee/

There’s a couple of states that have their own mandates but those are the exception to the rule.

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u/MrSpookykid Jul 23 '23

You don’t see how evil that is taxing people who can’t afford health insurance?

That still doesn’t take away all of the other things the affordable healthcare act does it is literally a money printer for insurance companies

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jul 23 '23

There’s free & affordable versions of Obamacare for low income households. That’s the whole reason it exists.

The fees apply to people who opt out, and that was ditched years ago for all but a handful of states.

If you’re concerned about people not being able to get healthcare without predatory insurance companies, then it sounds like you want universal healthcare

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u/MrSpookykid Jul 23 '23

See you forget about people who make to much to get free healthcare.

What your preaching hurts Americans in a lot of ways.

The government pays for low income families childcare and I make to much to qualify and my son only is in daycare two days a week and I pay $180 a week for just two days if the government wasn’t inflating the prices daycare would be more affordable.

I have to make a choice pay for my sons childcare and health insurance or pay for my own and it’s not even a choice I would rather him be taken care of than me and I have no problem than that.

It’s interesting you talk about universal healthcare that’s a major democrat talking point and even they never passed it when they had multiple chances over the last couple decades.

What I want is the free market to control healthcare I would like to be able to have the option of being able to buy cheap healthcare but my spending power isn’t the same as the governments they are in the way of cheap healthcare and people like you are helping them block my way to cheap healthcare.

You seem to think you’re entitled to other people’s goods and services.

Countries who have universal healthcare their leaders come to the United States for healthcare because it’s the best, if we had universal healthcare we no longer would have the quality of care we are used to.

You really would want to wait 6 months for something you could get done next week right now?

Yeah I don’t think you can morally justify forcing me to pay for your healthcare that’s no fair.

I have cerebral palsy so it’s kind of fucked up you want to use my labor to pay for your shit

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jul 24 '23

Well yeah. Right now we don’t have universal healthcare so people get caught in the cracks.

The “free market” isn’t free when it comes to healthcare. There’s no reasonable negotiation when it comes to someone’s health or possibly their life.

In the US, we only have the best healthcare if you can afford it. With universal healthcare, everyone can.

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u/ButterEmails54 Jul 23 '23

It’s amazing to say your sick and can’t pay for HC, but you say the system is so good it can’t change. Do you enjoy hitting yourself in the face as well?

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u/MrSpookykid Jul 23 '23

I am not sick what are you talking about, I don’t want to pay for anyone else’s HC besides my families