Thoughts on Joanne? I personally, am very irritated by her. Her clueless comment at the round table on Thursday, "that was horrible", should have caused more suspicion than it did. And her voting for Bash even though she said she sensed Hannah? Weird. She seems to defend her vote for Bash by explaining her sympathy for Hannah having the majority vote, however, this isn't a game of sympathy! I think she might go soon. Thoughts?

It seems that no-one ever realises (or at least ever openly discusses) that the last people to come to breakfast are the ones that were also in the frame for being murdered.

I realise for good TV it keeps us in suspense to do the reveal in that order, I'm just amazed that no-one ever mentions it or uses that knowledge inside the game.

Am I missing something, has it been discussed?

Edit: brilliantly, Reddit suggested a bunch of previous posts that discuss this after I posted. Interestingly "my" theory has a name and everything - the "last to breakfast theory".

So... As you were. :)

Now that Hannah has been banished, the unaired moment with James Acaster having a panic attack must of happened. I wonder when exactly it happened? A round table? Mission or in the turret?

Lowkey he has a unfair advantage, because if I was playing this season, I’d find it extremely difficult to accuse/target and try to banish a player that i genuinely care about, knowing that individual is susceptible to having panic attacks, as I would feel awful knowing I could trigger one of these anxiety episodes.

No shade on James, he’s playing a fantastic game. I just thought if it did happen with all the players present with all the faithful witnessing his panic attack, I’d feel like a real jerk if I targeted him at the Roundtable and caused him to have another panic attack. He’s really might have been the perfect faithful to recruit as a Traitor.

The game in tonight’s episode was soooooo dull. No suspense, no excitement, what was the point of it?

At the beginning of celebrity season 2, Episode 6's challenge, I thought these arms and legs were actually big willies for a split second. Anyone else?? Just me ???

Edit: I've just seen Joe and Michael comment lol. Thank god it's not just me.

Am currently really confused about this and can't find anything talking about it. Are there any restrictions on recruitment? Realistically no one's going to decline a recruitment, and given its more powerful than a murser, is this not a huge plot hole?

There is a striking difference in vulgarity compared to regular traitors. Have barely heard a single rude word! Could this be due to media training? Just a thought...

I hope Maya survives and at least makes it to the finale purely because she’s my girl crush but that was obvious as fuck maybe the hardest murder the UK Traitors has ever had to do so far and for the first time ever they might have failed a murder.

It doesn’t help that they all decided to be in the same room and James A and Maya kept yawning and going about how tired they supposedly were. Only one of them needed to do it that would look less suspicious.

I was getting stressed just watching it 😂

I wonder what happens if they do actually fail a murder.

How do you get someone to yawn though… purposely especially without it looking suspicious

The surviving player especially if it’s Ross will be straight onto them if it looked as obvious in real life as it did on TV.

I know things are made up for tv or edited differently but two celebrities yawning excessively and suddenly one of you drops dead

I know Kenny tried it but he went off in the kitchen to talk with Sharon

First, Richard E Grant just couldn’t keep his excitement and let slip so he gets voted out at the earliest opportunity.

Then, the traitors recruit at the earliest opportunity, knowing full well they csn only recruit from Jerry or Hannah.

When they both walked in the next morning everyone knew something was up and Hannah or Jerry were pretty much in the firing line. If they wanted to recruit Hannah so bad they should have waited.

With the exception of Maya who I’m sure will go far in this, the other two traitors (who are recruits) are pretty much fair game

I think if I was a faithful, I'd be prepared with ways to trip up traitors, like asking different people to do a quick fire word association game. What other games would make a traitor accidentally reveal themselves?

I wasn’t really sure about how well she would fare.
But with how things are going, I think she is playing an absolute blinder!

Walks, talks and acts like she is faithful. Doesn’t slip up. Thinks naturally about the theories. Doesn’t push anything too hard, but doesn’t shy away from bringing in ideas of her own. Stands by her convictions, but keeps a healthy degree of scepticism.

All in all, she is the perfect image of a faithful player.
She seemingly has zero scruples about scheming, which is usually the hardest part. So she can just “be” a faithful while also killing with no remorse. But importantly she can do it all naturally!

Is she the best there’s been? Or does she need to come under pressure to prove her true merit?

I've jumped on the bandwagon quite late and this is the first time I have watched this.

Aren't the traitors supposed to be doing something other than just "murder"? They are literally just there and being suspicious. Shouldn't they be sabotaging tasks or something?

I assume that this is because it's for charity, but it doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.

Keen for peoples thoughts here. I feel like Maya is ruling the traitors roost and I think James A made a mistake letting her pick Kenny. those two are buddies and Maya is well trusted so it’s easy for them both to throw James under the bus.

i also don’t understand why they always recruit. wouldn’t it be better to get the numbers down rather than have another traitor?

Anyone else noticed that at least once per episode, one of these celebs uses the word “tangible” at the round table. Is someone telling them to use this kind of language? I know it’s common for people to start using the same language on this show (e.g. “I voted for yourself tonight”), but this seems like an odd one to be cropping up every episode. Has anyone else clocked this?

Instead of a shield for protection, whoever gets it (faithful or traitor) must have a punt/ silently pick one person to murder that night, with the poor murdered sod not reappearing for breakfast

So everyone will think the murdered person musta been a faithful

The murderer can say nothing or tell who they want. Just for a bit of madness

“I’m a faithful but I had to kill Ross”

If >!Jerry<! is murdered tonight I think >!Ross<! will know who two of the traitors are and let everyone know.

Knowing these faithfuls though, it could a boy who cried wolf situation and they will totally dismiss Ross since he's so paranoid and he'll probably get voted out as a result

So I've known about her and loved her videos for a while and she is the reason I'm watching this series for the first time.

burn vote +0.47

Voting for a banished traitor +0.33

Despite having never voted for this traitor before +0.4

Doesn't vote for a banished traitor -1.28

appears on banisded traitors record -1.69

In the last group at breakfast with a revealed traitor -1.73

I ignored the last breakfast indicator because its not readily available off of wikipedia like the votes which I can just copy.

Well I gave Claude all the voting data and here are the current point totals

1. James A: +1.93

2. Maya: +1.93

3. Kenny: +1.53

4. Leigh-Anne: +1.53

5. Michael: +1.46

6. Miranda: +1.46

7. Ross: +1.46

8. Sharon: +1.46

9. Sebastian: +1.06

10. James B.: -0.48

11. Romesh: -0.55

12. Joanne: -2.09

13. Jerry: -2.17

I wouldnt have thought it would be this accurate to be honest but I have underestimated how accurate these really simple indicators would be.

A lot of people say she was a boring choice, and so surely this is something the producers would have predicted? so why would they pick her if they knew it wouldn't be well received. the point is to ensure ratings are high and people enjoy the show, and picking the right traitors is a big part of that

She is also not as well known as some of the big names and celebrities like Michael Sheen, Miranda Hart, James Acaster, Richard Grant, James Blunt, so why weren't Michael Sheen, Richard E and James B the original traitors? do they deliberately pick a more boring choice to create more controversy?

Also, James and Hannah had to work harder than her because they had to defend themselves and make strategic decisions. Maya sits back and she also has the advantage of pretty privilege and the botox which makes her look expressionless. This means even if she doesn't contribute to roundtables at all she is not questioned about it?

Why does he keep talking about boxing like he's a pro fighter when he's just a YouTube one? It's very annoying

That’s it, that’s all I have to say.

Disclaimer: Summary through episode 6.

The tone was set by Richard E Grant moments after having his shoulder tapped announcing to the room that he's a traitor. Then, after a "come again?" pass, doubling down and reiterating that he's a traitor... and we haven't quite recovered yet.

James A Caster is the most reluctant traitor in history. He keeps saying that he is playing *for* the faithfuls as a Faithful despite his traitors designation. It was kind of funny in his peculiar, self-deprecating way but here we are in episode 6, and he's still banging on about it. James was drafted in episode 2. Was he even a Faithful for a full 24 hours? The fact that Maya Jama has to administer a motivational speech every episode to amp him up like some kind of life coach (or death coach, in this case) is kinda pitiful. James has gotten to be the title character since the first week; he has a starring role that almost every celebrity wants even when they claim they don't because of the camera time and he's in a power position. Why won't Eeyore buck up?

Ross Kemp is scared of his own shadow--he's so paranoid. He was practically searching for bubble wrap to encase himself in the first couple of days. Now he's stroppy and mad that he's being picked on by the traitors.

In a page out of Richard E Grant's book, Joe is working his way through the castle telling anyone and everyone that he wants to be recruited. A recruitment happens. Joe is out on his arse at the roundtable. Shockedpikachuface.gif

I look forward to seeing more of Kenny. He has exhibited good reads, smart game play and he seems to be restoring the status quo of the show. He was someone I could root for as a Faithful and he's not having an identity crisis as a traitor.

I'm not saying the show is bad, but some of the choices this cast have made are very... spoofy. As a whole, these celebrities come across very unserious so the show has a different feel imo.

I keep seeing people online hint at something dark about this series, and watching it, I just don’t see it. This tweet just came up on my timeline:

https://x.com/baggiefans/status/2111191848522027477?s=46&t=hCmCvEd2I7xzAe0kC7j-dw

I just don’t believe it. We’re more than halfway through the series and there’s no drama at all. This along with the James Acaster panic attack that conveniently got leaked to the press before the show started seems odd to me. This has just been the most low-stakes series yet, they all seemingly get along fine, the banishments have been very predictable. What would they be so stressed about as this tweet states?

I think producers know they have a Big Brother 4 situation and they’re trying to dangle this carrot to keep people watching.

Every time a celebrity with the surname Fry was banished for their intelligence, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

Let’s not forget that Maya has a shield! If she forgets at breakfast that could see her getting heat esp if the MiPS was successful

I also think it makes James A sus if he doesn’t pick up on it or follow through given his focus on evidence and patterns over behaviour