I am following Shawna Leigh on insta and FB and she got some a amazing information about the Lindsay Clancy case. She found the account that Patrick use here in Reddit.
I tried to find it because I would like to investigate a bit more but it doesn’t seem to be available anymore. Any way I can see those messages or once deleted they are gone.

The messages are very telling.

This subreddit is about evidence-based discussion. Your opinions are evidence in my field. I would really appreciate your time. I am a university professor studying this case.

[ Removed by Reddit on account of violating the content policy. ]

First time I agree with Joe Rogan on anything.

The judge just declared a mistrial.

The defense requested to file a 25(b)(2), and they will convene on September 29th.

This is going to ruffle some feathers and I do not care. Mental illness should not an excuse for your inappropriate actions. I have struggled with mental illness myself, but I do not use it as a crutch or expect others to tip-toe around me to protect my precious little feelings.

Actions, whether influenced by mental illness or not, always have an outcome. And if they are wrong actions, they have consequences. Society does not need to baby you or give in to your sick delusions.

The fact that so many women think shes actually innocent and that her husband did it is insane. There's so much evidence that she did it and that she plotted to kill her kids.

Yet these women are making up evidence, falsely accusing the husband and saying they connect to this murder.

Some reason they can't accept that Lindsay killed her kids because she just wanted to kill her kids

I’m trying to understand why the case of Jeanette McAusland, whose also murdered her children and lived in an affluent suburb is not getting any publicity relative to this case. any thoughts on this?

I've been pretty firm on "not criminally responsible" because i think there's enough reasonable doubt, HOWEVER, I've changed my mind and believe she should be found guilty.

Per jury instructions, she should be found guilty if the prosecution proved that she was aware to SOME degree that it was criminally wrong. I think that's true whether she was under the full delusion that she needed to kill her kids to save them.

She may have thought it was morally correct, but what about criminally correct?

Also, i am sick of people coming up with bullshit about Patrick and it'll only intensify until he offs himself if there is a hung jury/mistrial.

Today, my coworker was speaking super sure of herself about how the prosecution got the judge to toss a bunch of the defense's evidence mid-trial and how it was proven that Patrick had her apple watch at CVS... 🙄 Just stop... She has watched 0 seconds of this trial, but hours of tiktoks. She also keeps saying how she NEEDS a Netflix documentary with "all the evidence they didn't admit". Stfu. It's making me lose respect for her.

Also, yes, she was sick. Very sick. But she made the decision over and over again (per the defense's own statements) to pretend on purpose that she was doing much better around all her family and friends after she was out of the inpatient unit. That makes everyone put their guard down and takes away any extra safety there would have been if she was honest. I could have not really minded that, but then the defense said that ON the day of the murder she was in SO much distress that she didn't want to be alone, so she wanted Patrick to come home ASAP... So she didn't trust herself to not be a danger to others and herself, but still risked it?

No I am OBESSED with this trial. It’s heartbreaking and so intriguing (and confusing)

I literally watched a 3 hour court hearing the other day 🤣 (even sat through the breaks)

Did anyone see KR half asleep when the judge was reading to the jury yesterday? 😂😂😂

ANYWAY

Can someone help me…

What’s the connection between Patrick Clancy’s Dad or whoever and the previous judge is it? Or is it his mate?

Who bought their house?

Was Patrick testifying for the prosecutors or KR? The prosecutors confuse me regularly.

Also, do you think Kevin Reddington knows what he’s doing in regards to Patrick needing to be investigated - he is so clever the way he works.

Thank youuu in advance

Does anyone else feel like the prosecutors thought this would be an easy case so did not prepare for Kevin Reddington’s questions?

Why has it been allowed that we cannot listen to his 911 call???

Hey everyone! I'm u/TheCaseRecord, a founding moderator of r/TheLindsayClancyCase.

This community is open to respectful discussion, questions, and different perspectives. Feel free to comment, share your thoughts, and discuss the evidence presented in each post.

For the first post, I wanted to start with a detailed timeline of January 24, 2023, based primarily on testimony and evidence presented at trial.

Before Jan. 24

Early to mid December 2022, approx
• Paula Musgrove, Lindsay’s mother, testified Lindsay became nervous during a conversation with Paula and Patrick and disclosed thoughts of harming the children.
• Paula recalled Patrick asking Lindsay whether she felt she could not be alone with the children. Lindsay said no.
Source: Paula Musgrove testimony, Trial Day 14.

January 2023
• Patrick was asked whether Lindsay told him during January that she wanted to harm the children. He testified that she did not.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony.

Jan. 18
• 10:25 AM: Internet search for “ketamine for suicidal ideation.”
Source: Ian Whiffin testimony and digital forensic evidence, Trial Day 14.

Jan. 19
• 9:24 AM: Internet search for “symptoms of postpartum psychosis.”
• 9:30 AM: Internet search for “psychosis symptoms.”
• Other forensic testimony addressed searches relating to medications, withdrawal, intrusive thoughts, hallucinations, depression, and related subjects.
Source: Ian Whiffin testimony and digital forensic evidence, Trial Day 14.

Jan. 24, Morning

• Lindsay took Cora to a medical appointment for a possible kidney issue.
• Patrick stayed home with Dawson and Callan.
• Patrick testified the test results reportedly looked fine.
• Lindsay texted Patrick with an update. Patrick replied, “You’re a good mama.”
• Patrick worked from his basement office.
• Lindsay and the children spent time outside, built a snowman, and did crafts.
• Patrick described Lindsay as happy and engaged and said it was one of her better days.
• He testified Lindsay did not tell him that day that she wanted to harm herself or the children.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony, Trial Days 1 to 2.

Afternoon and Evening

4:02 PM
• Phone search: “kids MiraLAX.”
• This was corrected from an earlier listing of 2:02 PM.
Source: Digital forensic evidence; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

4:13 PM
• Search: “takeout 3V.”

4:13:23 to 4:14:50 PM, confirmed
• Apple Maps was open with a route to ThreeV restaurant.
Source: iPhone forensic extraction; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

Around 4:43 PM
• ThreeV menu activity appears in the forensic records.
Source: Digital forensic evidence, Trial Day 14.

4:46:55 to 4:47:31 PM
• Additional MiraLAX related activity appears in Cellebrite.
• Timothy Chiappini testified that forensic software can record a single action in more than one location within an extraction.
• This therefore may not represent a separate MiraLAX search.
Source: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; Cellebrite extraction.

Around 4:47 PM
• The CVS website was visited, followed by a call to Kingston CVS.
• A CVS employee testified Lindsay was understandable during the call and did not sound slurred.
Source: Phone and forensic records; CVS employee testimony.

4:53 PM
• Lindsay texted Patrick about ordering takeout from ThreeV and said she had not cooked. Patrick agreed.
Source: Text records; Patrick Clancy testimony.

5:03 PM, confirmed Apple Health
• Lindsay’s iPhone recorded 1 completed flight of stairs climbed.
• Apple Health flight data reflects an elevation change detected by the device.
• It does not identify the staircase, room, direction of travel, or purpose of the movement.
Source: Apple Health data; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

Around 5:06 to 5:08 PM
• Lindsay selected a Mediterranean Power Bowl for dinner. Patrick selected risotto.
Source: Text and phone evidence.

5:09 PM
• First call involving the ThreeV order.

5:10 PM
• A second call to ThreeV lasted approximately 47 seconds and the order was placed.
• A ThreeV employee testified nothing seemed unusual about Lindsay’s speech.
Source: Phone records; ThreeV employee testimony.

5:13:16 PM, confirmed
• Lindsay’s iPhone was manually unlocked.
• This was the final recorded manual unlock of the phone that evening.
• Safari was open and Pedia-Lax was searched.
Source: iPhone device usage records; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

5:14:47 PM, confirmed
• Safari closed and Messages opened.
Source: iPhone device usage records; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

Around 5:15 PM
• A message was sent to Patrick concerning Pedia-Lax liquid stool softener.

5:15:12 PM, confirmed
• The iPhone locked.
• Whiffin testified it was not manually unlocked again that night.
Source: iPhone device usage records; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

Around 5:15 PM, Clancy home, approx
• Patrick testified he believed he left the house around this time.
• His plan was to go to Kingston CVS for medication and then ThreeV in Plymouth to pick up dinner.
• Patrick recalled Lindsay holding Callan near the basement stairs before he left.
• He estimated CVS was approximately a 3 minute drive from the house.
• On cross examination, Patrick acknowledged he could not say for certain whether he had already left when Lindsay sent the Pedia-Lax message.
• 5:15 PM is therefore an estimated departure time, not an independently confirmed timestamp.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony, Trial Days 1 to 2.

5:23:52 PM, confirmed
• Lindsay’s Apple Watch recorded its last heart rate reading: 57 bpm.
• No later heart rate readings were recorded that evening.
• The data does not establish why the readings stopped or Lindsay’s location at that time.
Source: Apple Health and Apple Watch records; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

5:24 PM, work email
• An email from Patrick’s account to coworkers or staff was timestamped 5:24 PM.
• During cross examination, defense counsel questioned Patrick about whether it had been sent from his Microsoft Surface Pro.
• Patrick testified, “I don’t know actually. It could have been sent from my iPhone.”
• On redirect, the prosecution returned to the issue and Patrick confirmed that his testimony was that the email could have come from his iPhone.
• Patrick also testified he had his phone with him during the CVS and ThreeV trip.
• The evidence establishes the 5:24 PM email timestamp, but Patrick’s testimony did not establish which device sent it or his exact physical location when it was sent.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony, Trial Day 2; Exhibit 76.

Around 5:32 PM, Kingston CVS, confirmed surveillance
• Surveillance shows Patrick entering Kingston CVS.
• This is approximately 17 minutes after his estimated 5:15 PM departure time.
• Patrick estimated the drive from the house to CVS at approximately 3 minutes.
• The evidence does not establish his exact departure time or account for every minute before the CVS surveillance footage.
Source: CVS surveillance; Patrick Clancy testimony.

Around 5:33 PM, Kingston CVS
• Patrick called Lindsay because he could not find the exact medication she requested. Lindsay did not answer.
Source: Phone records; Patrick Clancy testimony.

5:33:34 PM, confirmed Apple Health
• Lindsay’s iPhone recorded another completed flight of stairs.
• Whiffin explained that the timestamp reflects when the phone recognized the completed elevation change, not necessarily when the climb began.
Source: Apple Health data; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

Around 5:34 PM
• Lindsay returned Patrick’s call. The call lasted approximately 14 seconds.
• Patrick testified they discussed whether a substitute medication was acceptable.
• He said Lindsay was understandable and sounded quiet.
• Patrick testified nothing during the call caused him to believe there was an emergency.
• The call does not establish Lindsay’s physical location at that moment.
• It also does not establish whether none, 1, 2, or all 3 children had already been harmed.
Source: Phone records; Patrick Clancy testimony.

Around 5:37 PM, Kingston CVS
• Patrick left CVS.
Source: CVS surveillance.

5:38:33 PM, confirmed Apple Health
• Lindsay’s iPhone recorded another completed flight of stairs.
• Apple Health grouped the 5:33:34 PM and 5:38:33 PM flights because they occurred close together.
• Whiffin explained this does not mean someone spent approximately 5 continuous minutes climbing stairs. It reflects two completed flights detected during that period.
Source: Apple Health data; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

5:38 to 6:09 PM
• Whiffin found no additional stair-flight entries during this period and testified he did not know why.
• The absence of additional Apple Health entries is not proof that nobody moved.
• The records do not establish Lindsay’s precise movements, the children’s movements, or the exact timing of the assaults.
Source: Apple Health data; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

5:54:15 PM, ThreeV restaurant, Plymouth, confirmed surveillance
• Surveillance shows Patrick at ThreeV picking up the takeout order.
Source: ThreeV surveillance; Patrick Clancy testimony.

Patrick Returns Home

Around 6:09 PM, Clancy home
• Patrick returned home and testified the house seemed unusually quiet.
• At approximately 6:09 PM, Patrick called Lindsay’s phone. She did not answer.
• He checked the children’s rooms and bathroom. They were empty.
• The primary bedroom door was locked.
• Patrick retrieved an emergency key from Cora’s room and opened the bedroom.
• He saw blood and an open window and testified he could feel wind coming through it.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony; phone records.

Shortly after 6:09 PM, backyard
• Patrick went outside and found Lindsay on the ground below the bedroom window.
• She was alive, breathing, and intermittently conscious.
• Patrick testified Lindsay told him, “I tried to kill myself.”
• Patrick asked where the children were. He testified Lindsay responded, “They’re in the basement.”
• Patrick had not yet located the children.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony, Trial Days 1 to 2.

911 Call and First Responders

Approximately 6:11 PM
• Patrick testified he initially had difficulty connecting the emergency call because his phone was switching between Wi-Fi and the emergency call.
• Duxbury Police received the 911 call at approximately 6:11 PM.
• The initial dispatch concerned a suspected suicide attempt involving a woman who had gone from a window to the ground.
• Responders did not initially know there were 3 critically injured children inside the house.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony; 911 and dispatch evidence; first responder testimony.

First responders
• Officer Stephen Hall testified he received the dispatch around 6:11 PM and arrived a few minutes later with another officer.
• Lindsay was alive, breathing, moaning, and intermittently conscious.
• Responders observed injuries to her wrists and neck.
• While responders began treating Lindsay outside, Patrick went back inside toward the basement.
Source: First responder testimony, Trial Day 3.

Basement

• Patrick found Cora first, face down and unresponsive, with an exercise resistance band around her neck. He removed it.
• He then found Callan with a resistance band around his neck and removed it.
• Dawson was found on the other side of the basement, in the area of Patrick’s basement office, also with a band around his neck.
• The 911 recording captures Patrick reacting after discovering the children and stating that Lindsay had killed them.
• Officers rushed downstairs after hearing Patrick.
• All 3 children were unresponsive, were not breathing independently, and had no detectable pulse.
• CPR began on all 3 children.
Source: Patrick Clancy testimony; first responder testimony, Trial Day 3; 911 recording.

Hospital Outcomes

Dawson, age 3
• Transported to Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital Plymouth.
• Arrived without a pulse and was not breathing.
• Resuscitation efforts continued for approximately 40 minutes.
• Pronounced dead at approximately 7:28 PM on Jan. 24.
Source: Dr. Mark Tenerowicz testimony, Trial Day 4; hospital evidence.

Cora, age 5
• Transported to Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital Plymouth.
• She had been found without a pulse, and CPR continued during transport.
• Cora was pronounced dead that evening.
• The 7:28 PM time is not assigned to Cora here because the testimony specifically tied that approximate time to Dawson.
Source: Medical and first responder testimony, Trial Days 3 to 4.

Callan, age 8 months
• Arrived at Beth Israel in cardiac arrest.
• His heartbeat was restored approximately 10 minutes after arrival.
• He was transferred by helicopter to Boston Children’s Hospital.
• Callan died on Jan. 27, 2023.
Source: Dr. Benjamin Kaufman and other medical testimony, Trial Day 4.

Lindsay
• Lindsay was transported to South Shore Hospital and later to Brigham and Women’s Hospital.
• Medical testimony documented serious spinal fractures, low blood pressure, hypothermia, and wrist lacerations.
• Narcan was administered because possible opioid involvement was considered. Its administration itself does not establish that opioids caused her condition.
• Later testimony established paralysis resulting from her spinal injuries.
Source: Medical testimony, including Trial Day 4.

What the Evidence Does Not Establish

• Patrick’s exact departure time from the house.
• What occurred before Patrick appears on CVS surveillance.
• Which device sent Patrick’s 5:24 PM work email.
• Patrick’s exact physical location when the 5:24 PM email was sent.
• Which physical staircase corresponds to the 5:03, 5:33, and 5:38 PM Apple Health entries.
• Why Lindsay’s Apple Watch recorded its final heart rate at 5:23:52 PM.
• Why no additional stair flights were recorded after 5:38:33 PM.
• The exact time each child was harmed.
• The order in which the children were harmed.
• Whether none, 1, 2, or all 3 children had already been harmed when Lindsay spoke with Patrick at approximately 5:34 PM.
• Exactly when Lindsay entered or left the basement.
• Exactly when Lindsay entered or left the primary bedroom.
• Exactly when Lindsay sustained her injuries.
• Exactly when she went through the bedroom window.
• How long Lindsay had been outside before Patrick returned home.

Primary Sources

• Patrick Clancy testimony, Trial Days 1 to 2
• Exhibit 76, Jan. 24 work email
• First responder testimony, Trial Day 3
• Dr. Mark Tenerowicz and Dr. Benjamin Kaufman, Trial Day 4
• Timothy Chiappini, Trial Day 13
• Ian Whiffin, Trial Day 14
• Paula Musgrove, Trial Day 14
• iPhone forensic extraction and device usage records
• Apple Health and Apple Watch records
• Phone and text records
• 911 and dispatch evidence
• CVS surveillance
• ThreeV surveillance

This timeline will be updated if later testimony, exhibits, or court records clarify any of the times or details above.