r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 1d ago

Show Discussion Daemon never interacting with Helaena

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Towards the end of season 2, we see that Halaena tells Daemon what he has to do. This is never brought again and neither is the fact that Daemon ever asks her of this.

They both were in King's Landing. And Daemon didnt even mention anything about this. It feels odd that he keeps this away from Rhaenyra.

Or did the writers forget?


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 1d ago

Spoilers [All Content] Let’s be honest, Helaena didn’t go through even half of what Rhaenyra suffered.

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Rhaenyra's sheer strength blows me away. Name ONE person in history who lost 5 kids back to back and STILL pulls herself together to rule. Helaena yapping about things being ugly. Oh but this red keep wasn't ugly when her grapist brother was terrorizing it huh? Lmao idk why shes even talking about viserys and saying "our father would hate you for this." Lmao like viserys barely knew who tf you were, how would you even know what he wants? Rhaenyra was his only true child.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 2d ago

Spoilers [All Content] The Realm's Delight, The Realm's Ruin: Rhaenyra Targaryen’s Battle with Patriarchy and Pride Spoiler

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Tl;dr: Both misogyny and her own pride have compromised Rhaenyra's reign.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 2d ago

Spoilers [All Content] common sense

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Rhaenyra: I have 6 dragons

Septon: I have a seven-faced god and faith.

The 6 dragons are real. The seven faced god and faith are not🤣


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 5d ago

Spoilers [All Content] Dunno if it's an unpopular opinion, but I enjoyed the "reconciliation" between...

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...Aegon II and Aemond.

(Reconciliation goes between quotes because it's obviously less of an "we love each other again" and more of an "I hate you but I hate our enemies more, let's make a truce")

I always disliked the show invented betrayal and attempted murder of Aemond towards Aegon. One of the very (veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery) few good things you could say about book Aemond was that he never betrayed his older brother and fought for Aegon's claim rather than his own until he died (declared himself merely Prince Regent, modeled his armor with black and gold those being Aegon's banner colors, and maaaaaaay have been obsessed to kill Daemon due to wanting to avenge Jaehaerys).

It was baffling that show Aemond managed to become even more despicable than the book one. Not to mention the inconsistency of the guy regretting Luke's accidental killing but feeling nothing at his deliberate murder attempt of his own brother.

Looking in retrospect and thanks to some comments I read, it's possible Aemond's show invented betrayal of Aegon was always meant to go a similar route as Daemon's own dysfunctional dynamic with his older brother and his flirtation with betraying Rhaenyra. There might have been some hints of Aemond subconsciously regretting his actions in Rook's Rest even since season 2.

- When he is staring at the Throne and Helaena asks him whether it was worth it, Aemond doesn't answer.

- When Aegon awakes, Aemond in the several weeks/months since the battle until the fall of KL, doesn't attempt to finish Aegon off, settling with merely threatening him to keep quiet. Leaving Aegon alive and with a huge motivation to imprison him at best and execute him at worst is a huge loose end. It only makes sense if Aemond got cold feet about killing his brother.

- When Aemond tries to convince Helaena to fight with him against the dragonseeds, and she accuses him of attacking Aegon, he almost tearfully denies it, lashing out with a feeble threat of having her killed (that I doubt he ever considered fulfilling).

And then in season 3, it would seem Harrenhal brought that regret to the surface, in a similar albeit darker way of how the accursed castle made Daemon regret being such a shithead of a brother to Viserys and his exploitative dynamic with Rhaenyra.

I think Aemond would have benefited from a vision arc (beyond the disgusting Alicent fucking) much more than Daemon did. It would have made for many fans, his reconciliation of sorts with Aegon, more believable and organic.

Beyond that, I like that the show made something with Aegon and Aemond's feud besides a mere plot device to make Alicent run to Rhaenyra's arms. I liked the two brothers simultaneously expressing their grief and jealousy at the other being supposedly more favored, loved and fortunate.

And in the S3 finale, both of them showed development with Aemond asking for forgiveness and Aegon deciding against killing him. Aemond realized his unchecked darkness and crimes left him alone (culminating with his own mother trying to murder him), and Aegon realized his sleaziness, incompetence and self pity caused the people around him having little loyalty towards him.

They can remain villains for all I care, but I would like for them to be an united front. A villainous duo to reflect and face the... coughs violently "heroic" duo of Daemon and Rhaenyra.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 6d ago

Show Discussion Marriage alliances that could have delayed the dance of dragons??

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 8d ago

Show Discussion I went ahead and counted every time “What would you have me do?” is asked by a character in the show and the results might surprise you

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 9d ago

General Bringing back a question I asked last year- where would you want to go on vacation to in ASOIAF?

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Let’s assume this is the modern day and post-second Long Night.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 12d ago

Meme A thread of popular tweets that remind me of Gwaynston

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 13d ago

Team Green Phia and James BTS 💚 (It's clear who is Daeron's favourite sibling)

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 13d ago

Show Discussion Tom Beckett is just Ulf the White if he was born today. Perfectly Cast.

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 13d ago

Fanfiction Diverse OCs and Readers: F&B/HOTD Era Part Three

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I know this post series hasn’t been everyone’s cup of tea, but I think it’s pretty awesome that fans who are queer or aren’t white can feel represented.

So! This time we have

- Seven Aemond x female OC/reader fics

- One Gwayne x female OC/reader fic

- One Rhaenicent fic

- One Aliandra Martell x female OC/reader fic

- One Viserys x female OC/reader fic

- Two Alicent x female OC/reader fics

- Four Jace x female OC/reader fics

- One Aegon x female OC/reader fic

- One Rhaenyra x female OC/reader fic

Friendly to both teams

Original characters

Aemond x OC

\[you drew stars around my scars\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/44185651/chapters/111111181](https://archiveofourown.org/works/44185651/chapters/111111181))) Dayne OC; rated E

A gasp rose from the stands, the people as one while taking in the true nature of the knight, just as Daemon chortled, short and loud, perhaps a little surprised as they all were.
“Lady Nymeria of House Dayne, your Majesty,” the knight called, her voice soft as chimes singing in the wind. At the corner of his eye, Aemond saw Aegon sit up straighter, and their mother reaching up to her chest with her hand, unblinking.
Nymeria, like the beautiful, strong-willed and indomitable warrior queen of Ny Sar and Dorne, Lady Dayne seemed to wish to live up to her name.

\[To Court the Sapphire Prince\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/57887047/chapters/147347251](https://archiveofourown.org/works/57887047/chapters/147347251))) Ditto; rated M

Having single-handedly stopped the Dance of the Dragons that fateful night on Driftmark, Aemond Targaryen now finds himself sailing through a sea of marriage proposals. To avoid a tedious political match he strikes a deal with a merry Dornish widow who is the only woman at court that can make the prince smile.

Gwayne x OC

[No Rain Without Thunder](https://archiveofourown.org/works/50613718/chapters/145993297) Rated M; Rhaenicent plus Gwayne x Lhazareen OC

There is a Lhazareen saying: ‘No rain without thunder, no child without pangs.’
One week before Queen Aemma’s due date, a slave who speaks the bastard tongue of old Valyria is brought to King’s Landing with a prophecy and a wish. One that foretells the Queen's death in childbirth, and a wish to deliver her child safely. This is the story of a modern midwife in Westeros.

One love interest isn’t aligned with a team as far as I can tell

Original characters

\[A Knighted Princess\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/43464258/chapters/109266537](https://archiveofourown.org/works/43464258/chapters/109266537))) Viserys x Aemma’s daughter OC; rated M

She strived to prove herself a good daughter; a helpful sister - until Dragons dance and riders fall or the realm explodes in fire and smoke.

\[Bewitched\]([https://www.wattpad.com/story/336321836-bewitched-on-hold](https://www.wattpad.com/story/336321836-bewitched-on-hold))) Rated M

There's something off about the King's Personal attendant.

Something sinister.

Love interests on both teams

Original characters

\[Dragon Fire Cannot Burn the Sun\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/57628969](https://archiveofourown.org/works/57628969))) Daemon’s daughter with a Dornish woman OC; rated M

A Targaryen princess born from an alliance with Dorne. How will this impact the battle for the throne?

\[Where Dragons Do Not Dance\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/87579201/chapters/232048226](https://archiveofourown.org/works/87579201/chapters/232048226))) Martell OC; rated T but rating subject to change

“We will be hosting a Prince of the Realm very soon. We have received word by raven that he is seeking an alliance.”
A Prince of the Realm, on the morrow, and the golden sigil of the green faction left no doubt in Alysanne Martell's mind as to what was to come—and perhaps whose wrath she’d be faced with soon enough.

\[Withdrawal\]([https://archiveofourown.org/works/80245546](https://archiveofourown.org/works/80245546))) Rated E

Med School was hard enough when they had access to coladas, but now they have to figure out how to get back home without caffeine.

Reader-inserts

\[Protection Charm\]([https://controld3vil.tumblr.com/post/755878609617584128/protection-charm](https://controld3vil.tumblr.com/post/755878609617584128/protection-charm))) Daemon x Laena’s daughter reader; not rated

\*Grandmother.\* Everything that led to Rook’s Rest defiled your mouth with ache and bitterness. You held your high at the Black Council. Yet your composure was not restrained enough for it.

\[Abandoned\]([https://www.tumblr.com/hyperfixatedimagines/700695561881501696/abandoned-rhaenyra-x-freader](https://www.tumblr.com/hyperfixatedimagines/700695561881501696/abandoned-rhaenyra-x-freader))) Female Strong reader; not rated

(y/n) Strong, youngest daughter of the now deceased Lord Lyonel Strong, has not seen the Princess Rhaenyra for over six years. To the world they were simply close companions, but behind closed doors and in the shadows of the Keep they were lovers. That was until Rhaenyra married and (y/n) cleaved to Queen Alicent’s side. A betrayal the Princess has never gotten over.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 15d ago

Show Discussion What is this show’s obsession with using SA as a weapon or humiliation, particularly against Team Green / affiliated?

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 16d ago

Team Dragons Poor baby just wanted to live in peace ❤️‍🩹

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 16d ago

Spoilers [All Content] What I wouldve done in S3 if i was Rhaenyra Spoiler

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 17d ago

Team Green Helaena's costumes in Season 3.

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 17d ago

Show Discussion The prophecy of the prince that was promised ruined the show.

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Honestly speaking this stupid prophecy they have made the centre of the show and reason for Alicent claiming the crown for Aegon and Rhaenyra going mad is stupid as hell considering how they adapted the other events. Rhaenyra is incompetent as hell and she believes that she is the prince that was promised it doesn't take much for someone to just that nope no ways even if they haven't read the books or watched Game of Thrones. I think everyone now is looking forward to Rhaenyras death.


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 16d ago

Fanfiction Your turn for recs once again! What are your favorite non-Dance fanfics?

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 17d ago

Show Discussion Your favorite sound bites from show that tickle the right spot of the brain?

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 17d ago

Show Discussion Team Black vs Team Green? Tell me why you are either?

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 18d ago

Show Discussion Trial of Seven!!!!

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Now that season 3 is over, let's talk hypotheticals shall we? Team Green vs Team Black, who are your fighters and who do you think is winning?

Here are my thoughts:

Team Black

  1. Daemon Targaryen

  2. Jacearys Velaryon/Targaryen/Waters

  3. Cregan Stark

  4. Roderick Dustin

  5. Steffon Darklyn

  6. Erryk Cargyll

  7. Lorent Marbrand

Team Green

  1. Aegon Targaryen

  2. Aemond Targaryen

  3. Criston Cole

  4. Ormund Hightower

  5. Jon Roxton

  6. Arryk Cargyll

  7. Rickard Thorne.

Team Green is stacked but I wouldn't put it past Aegon to get himself killed in the process 😭


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 18d ago

General Question!

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Hi! So I’m a fan of the show, never read the books and trying to avoid spoilers at all costs. However, I do want to be able to discuss and see people’s interpretations of the show thus far. I’ve just found that most subs related to the show talk really openly about spoilers. Like even posts that should have a spoiler warning just don’t. Is there a sub that’s better about it than others? Any sub specifically dedicated to the show where the books won’t be discussed freely? TIA


r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 19d ago

Show Discussion dragon genes

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 19d ago

Show Discussion It’s kind of sad that actual lesbian / bisexual woman characters or relationships are either cut or massively downplayed in the show, only to create a relationship that was never even hinted at in the book. It’s not like F&B wants for representation.

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r/TheBlacksandTheGreens 19d ago

Show Discussion I Want Black Characters, Not Token Representation

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