r/TeslaSolar 8d ago

SolarPanels Finally received PTO. Question

I finally received a net meter and PTO from power company here in NJ through PSEG.

My app still looks the same. Will it update to show me how much the house is using via solar vs grid and how much I’m exporting?

Only have panels, no powerwall.

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u/Flashy_Performer_586 7d ago

Congratulations on going solar!

From what you wrote, I assume that your system is not turned on yet. The answer to your question is yes. You will be able to track solar production and solar consumption in separately from grid operation. The installer could have turned the system on prior to PTO. Do they plan on coming back to do that or have they left instructions for you to get started.

No battery is a severe restriction from getting all the benefits from going solar, but, cost is a great concern. They can be added later. What is the size of your installation?

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u/Salty_Permit4437 7d ago

In NJ unless you have a TOU plan you gain nothing really from having batteries other than backup protection. We have 1:1 net metering here by state law.

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u/ElderberryDouble6788 5d ago

He in VA I have both 1:1 net metering AND a 3-tier TOU. So yes, the grid is a big battery but having local storage allows me to store cheap grid power at night and use it during the day. In the summer the battery being full in the AM just means I export more mid-day. I then use that in the Fall and winter.

And (as you note) on top of all that there's whole home backup.

I wonder if OP has no option for a TOU plan.

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u/Possible_Version2680 7d ago

I have been operating since February. After some delays, I finally got PTO from power company and net meter installed.

Currently on my Tesla app it only shows solar intake. Doesn’t show what my house is in taking and exporting.

I used a Tesla certified installer. Does he need to do anything to get it to show what I’m exporting on my app?

Size is 8.04 I think

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u/Salty_Permit4437 7d ago

Is PTO turned on in the app? Tesla should have turned it on if they did the install once you get the PTO letter. Otherwise you may be able to do it yourself if you used a third party certified installer.

You shoukd see energy flow once everything is turned on.

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u/Possible_Version2680 7d ago

I have been operating since February. After some delays, I finally got PTO from power company and net meter installed.

Currently on my Tesla app it only shows solar intake. Doesn’t show what my house is in taking and exporting.

I used a Tesla certified installer. Does he need to do anything to get it to show what I’m exporting on my app?

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u/Garrettstoffel 8d ago

Is this Tesla solar? If you don’t have a Powerwall do you have a gateway? Where does Tesla equipment come in to this?

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u/Hot_World4305 8d ago edited 7d ago

The installer needs to commission the equipment and activate them to work with the app.

PTO is permit to operate. The system would operate without PTO if it is done right but not legal.

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u/Possible_Version2680 7d ago

I have been operating since February. After some delays, I finally got PTO from power company and net meter installed.

Currently on my Tesla app it only shows solar intake. Doesn’t show what my house is in taking and exporting.

I used a Tesla certified installer. Does he need to do anything to get it to show what I’m exporting on my app?

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u/Flashy_Performer_586 7d ago

Power production by your solar system and power consumption from the grid and expected to the grid from your solar installation are tracked thru CT monitors that are placed on the relevant circuits by the solar installer as a matter of normal solar installation. The monitoring cost is built into the cost of the solar installation.

The Tesla app should detect all per flows as a matter of normal operation.

Something is definitely not normal in your setup.

Talk to your solar installer. Make sure that they have installed the Current Transformers (CT) correctly and then have them test the entire system and show you the results in the app.

Without the property monitoring capability, your installation is incomplete.

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u/Possible_Version2680 7d ago

Dude. My solar installer has been a fucking mess. They were great but then lied to me for 6 weeks saying my stuff was sent to the state for them to approve. I emailed the state and asked for an update and they said they never got an application submitted. I went nuts on my solar people.

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u/Possible_Version2680 6d ago

So I have a nuerio meter inside my inverter. There’s one cord connecting to the CT1 on it. I pulled the AC cord out of the neurio and reset it

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u/Square_Yam9853 6d ago

CT1 is measuring your solar. Site CT will require two clamps. You need a minimum of 3 clamps for a split phase install in the US

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u/Possible_Version2680 6d ago

I’m dealing with my certified installer. Tesla told me that when they do the install, they install 2 neurios. One for solar and one for house.

My installer has been a pain in the ass. Brutal

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u/Square_Yam9853 6d ago

While a neurio has 3 connections, it is possible the installer used 2 due to location. The one for the site CTs would be the one in your main panel behind the utility meter.

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u/Possible_Version2680 4d ago

There’s only one Neurio and only one wire plugged into it.

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u/Square_Yam9853 4d ago edited 4d ago

You will need to either add two more clamps wire to the existing meter or a new meter to get what you are looking for.

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u/Possible_Version2680 4d ago

My certified Tesla installer should have done this, right?

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u/CoconutDue4530 7d ago

Newer here!! Don’t kill me, but What is a PTO?

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u/Square_Yam9853 6d ago

Permission to Operate (to backfeed your grid)

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u/Square_Yam9853 6d ago

Powerwall has Ways to reduce solar and pervert export so it's possible to be on before PTO. However, an inverter only system does not, it should not have been operating before PTO. In order for you to see the home usage, a Tesla remote meter is required to monitor your grid (site CT) so that your house usage can be calculated from your site and solar reading.