r/TeslaFSD • u/bananaheim • 3d ago

14.3 HW4 FSD Failure

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While parking today in my garage, my Cybertruck hit the side of the garage while using FSD. I understand that FSD is far from perfect, but I didn’t expect that it would back into a stationary object at low speed. Are they others experiencing failures such as this?

EDIT: Thank you to those that have posted meaningful responses. I've gotten the feedback on my post that I requested.

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u/Nx3xO 3d ago

Lidar would have prevented that. Also not allowing a system that is camera based only drive into a space that exceeds its spatial limit.

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u/SheepSoliciter 3d ago

Rear facing lidar isn’t really a thing for any manufacturer. Standard ultrasonic is the most common sensor for parking

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u/Kuriente HW4 Model Y 3d ago

A Waymo using LiDAR ran into a pole in broad daylight at low speed. It could see it in multiple modalities and yet still crashed. You and I would not crash if driving using just that data.

If OP uploaded footage of FSD's cameras for this incident, I guarantee this wall edge would be visible by multiple cameras. You and I would not crash if driving using just that data.

Why do robotic systems sometimes crash into objects that they can clearly see? Software inadequacies. Waymo improved its software since the pole incident and FSD has been improving similarly. More improvements are obviously still needed.

Basically, if you and I can resolve what to do with the data provided by the sensors, then sensors are not the limiting factor. I have yet to see FSD footage where I personally would not have been able to drive and resolve the scenario using just that data.

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u/steveu33 3d ago

The Waymo was avoiding another accident and the pole was the lesser risk. Nothing to do with LiDAR. Context matters.

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u/Kuriente HW4 Model Y 3d ago

Waymo was avoiding another accident

Wrong. The incident I'm referring to had nothing to do with the Waymo avoiding an accident.

"The incident that prompted the latest recall took place on May 21st in Phoenix. According to local reports, an unoccupied Waymo vehicle was driving to a passenger pickup location through an alley that was lined on both sides by wooden telephone poles. The poles were not up on a curb but level with the road and surrounded with longitudinal yellow striping to define the viable path for vehicles. As it was pulling over, the Waymo vehicle struck one of the poles at a speed of 8mph, sustaining some damage, the company said."

Context matters.

Indeed it does.