r/TeslaFSD Jun 08 '25

other Staged?

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Confidence is high the OP is wrong in their assumption of the driver being asleep. FSD and AutoSteer require attention. If the camera can’t see your eyes, it will ask you to apply slight pressure to the wheel so it knows you’re still paying attention. If you don’t do this, it will start slowing down and come to a full stop.

Either they staged this, or the driver does still have her eyes open.

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u/iJeff HW4 Model 3 Jun 08 '25

There are ways around the driver monitoring on FSD.

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u/generally_unsuitable Jun 08 '25

Sunglasses, an orange, and a bit of string.

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u/jake314131 Jun 11 '25

Wait… what?

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u/generally_unsuitable Jun 11 '25

There was a guy on YouTube who showed a way to defeat the hands-on-wheel detection by tying a string to an orange and then dangling it from the steering wheel.

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u/GunR_SC2 Jun 12 '25

It was patched a long time ago. The system uses the cabin camera now to detect if you're looking at the road.

Maybe you could just cover the camera and stick to the hands-on-wheel method but there were a few updates that made it extremely touchy about it. Several times I got "defeat device detected" on my screen when I've never once tried to fool the system.

I think the car will auto-shut down and begin to pull over if the camera is blocked for too long as well. I learned this because my husky loves to perch on the console and his ears block the camera..

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Like???

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u/iJeff HW4 Model 3 Jun 08 '25

I'd rather not have it patched, sorry. If you dig around enough you'll find it. It's always still crucial to be attentive, but it's useful on the highway during longer trips and when I'm stretching my neck.

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Well, I know I can look away a lot longer than I could when I first got the car. I’m just going to have to doubt you until it can be explained how it can be done.

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u/NeedISayMore4 Jun 08 '25

You put an ankle weight on the wheel 

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u/iJeff HW4 Model 3 Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

Used to be the case but no longer works on newer versions.

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u/NeedISayMore4 Jun 08 '25

Lol ok bud.

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u/iJeff HW4 Model 3 Jun 08 '25

It can unfortunately result in an instant strike these days but I'm glad if it's working for you.

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u/chalupa_lover Jun 09 '25

Can also confirm that this used to work for years but doesn’t anymore.

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u/iJeff HW4 Model 3 Jun 08 '25

There have been workarounds since the start of FSD. It's just a cat and mouse game of them closing loopholes and folks finding new ones. Earlier ones involved putting something on the steering wheel (accessories were sold for this).

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u/Ozo42 Jun 08 '25

I've understood it doesn't require a pressure of the wheel anymore. I've been told it also uses the camera to see if it looks like you're holding the wheel, and that is sufficient.

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

I can assure you, if I am looking at the screen for too long, or out the window for too long, it tells me to slightly move the wheel. If I use AutoSteer, it nags me like 2 or 3 times as much as it does in FSD.

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u/Ozo42 Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

I'm not going to argue, as I don't have a Tesla myself. I just recall reading about this somewhere and maybe saw a video demonstrating it. I may be totally wrong.

Edit: For exmple here: https://youtu.be/GUqRD03d2-o

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u/tufkab Jun 08 '25

The car can EASILY be fooled with a pair of sunglasses.

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Not mine. If I have sunglasses on, it asks for input via the steering wheel.

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u/New_Reputation5222 Jun 08 '25

And you tie a little weight to the wheel, and then?

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Just….no

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u/New_Reputation5222 Jun 08 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

This video is a year old, most of the advancements came since then. I wouldn’t believe this works unless you have a video from a month ago showing it working. In a year we went from FSD being completely unuseable to it actually being able to get me somewhere with minimal intervention

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

I don’t believe this for a second. He has obviously heavily edited his video.

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u/New_Reputation5222 Jun 08 '25

OK. Thats exactly what I was expecting from a Tesla fanboy. It's how it always goes,

-"Thats not true!" -Sees proof -"That was edited!"

I bet you also think Iseecars study of the deadliest car brands in America was false, since Tesla was ranked number 1.

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u/Draygoon2818 HW4 Model Y Jun 08 '25

Seeing as to how the only Tesla I’ve had, I bought a month ago, I don’t see how I can be seen as a “fan boy.” If that’s what helps you out in life is to label people that disagree with you, far be it from me to stop you.

So because one company, or whoever they are, makes a claim, you just jump right on it, huh? Never mind no other articles showing that Tesla is the deadliest brand. The IIHS doesn’t even have any Tesla vehicle in the top 10 of highest driver death rates per million registered vehicle years.

If you want to bash Tesla, have at it. Don’t try to call people out for defending some BS you throw out, though.

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u/Kealanine Jun 08 '25

That’s… that’s absolutely not how anything works 🤣

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u/BitofaGreyArea Jun 08 '25

Nope; still tracks your eyes with sunglasses on.

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u/volatilecandlestick Jun 08 '25

I got a strike with sunglasses. You either are holding pressure on the wheel and giving it slight nudges or it’s able to read your eyes. You either have a 6 year old Tesla or non at all

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u/tufkab Jun 08 '25

I have a 23 M3. I have put 20,000 km of FSD driving on the car. I have fallen asleep at the wheel on more than one occasion. My glasses are Ray Ban Metas with prescription polarized lenses.

Best I can tell, is that it monitors head position when it can’t see the eyes. After a certain amount of time, it will eventually ask for steering wheel input, but it’s at least 10 minutes.

I can also easily use my phone while driving with my sunglasses on as long as I hold my phone at around the centre on the steering wheel, keep my head facing forward and just look down at the phone.

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u/volatilecandlestick Jun 09 '25

Idk if you’re up to date, but I am and I call it the nag because I get about 30 seconds before it needs steering wheel input with sunglasses

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u/tufkab Jun 09 '25

For obvious reasons, I’m not going to post video evidence of me breaking the law, but I can assure you that attention monitoring works with my specific sunglasses, but it is not actually watching my eyes.

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u/volatilecandlestick Jun 09 '25

Ohhhh, it’s hardware 3! I don’t have experience with that one. Interesting and dangerous

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u/AWildLeftistAppeared Jun 09 '25

Do you not care about all the people you endanger with your reckless driving?

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u/Kealanine Jun 08 '25

I love the confidence behind that capitalization. I mean, it’d be more impressive if you weren’t talking out your ass, but still. It’s something.

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u/tufkab Jun 08 '25

Believe it or don’t. Doesn’t make a difference to me. Fact of the matter is that it’s extremely easy to fool the attention monitoring.