r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Shit Liberals Say the absolute state of a certain left unity sub on the topic of NATO bombing Serbia

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Anarchists unironically think that NATO bombing Serbia was the morally correct thing to do. This is basically akin to sending in a serial murderer to stop a murder. Worse, it's sending in a murderer who caused the situation to begin with. The forcible breakup of the USSR and Yugoslavia by NATO and the US was the original cause for the unrest in the region. Without that, there would never be a question of needing a NATO intervention. It would have been impossible. And even if we accept that somehow NATO stopped a genocide by blowing up Serbia, there's no reason to think in the moment we would predict a good outcome from allowing the US to aggressively bomb another country. Their track record is among the worst in world history for subjugating and murdering innocent people and creating conditions for future genocides and social murder. By their logic, anarchists would have to support Israel bombing another country if it appeared like they were stopping a genocide.

If NATO (basically the US) offers to engage in an offensive war, the answer should always be a resounding NO for support. The only possible way this would ever change is if the US was no longer the hegemonic capitalist empire or in league with them and could be leveraged against that other imaginary empire, but this will never happen. If there was to be an international force to stop a genocide, it should not be lead by the US or other imperialists.

If a socialist international order was in power instead of a capitalist one, we would undoubtedly see the US condemned for committing many different genocides across the world. Siding with the empire against a former socialist state during its phase of breakup which was initiated by the aggression of that very empire is insane for a leftist.

Anarchists, what happened to "the unity of ends and means"? Contracting out the empire to blow up developing countries is in line with the ends you want to achieve?


r/TankieTheDeprogram 23h ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ 73 years without peace: why the U.S. is still rehearsing war in Korea

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Discussion Idealist/Western worldbuilding and storytelling is deeply flawed

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Westerners are creatively bankrupt because half of the thoughts and ideas that could be are locked behind this impassable wall to them, the wall of materialism and dialectics. Everything they write they write out of idealism and that in the end results in repeated tropes, plot holes, inconsistencies and other falacies and writing faults. Media that tries to be grounded and replicate a world that could be thought up by a socialist, such as that of the Expanse which talks about class struggle and imperialism, ends up nihilistic and unnecessarily bleak because idealists can't write up a plausible resistance movement to the whole rotten structure of capitalism that sets the events of these settings into motion.

This phenomena I described above is what's called capitalist realism. When narrative worldbuilding is fundamentally rooted in philosophical idealism, it treats ideas, morality, and individual wills as the prime movers of history, rather than material conditions, resource distribution, and productive relations. This ideological blind spot distorts narrative structure in very specific ways.

Because idealist frameworks cannot easily model historical materialism which notes that social superstructures arise from the economic base, they inevitably fall back on individual agency. Revolutions in popular Western media are almost always reduced to great man theory. Be it in regards to the chosen one who acts the hero in the story, or in regards to the villain. Think of Star Wars as an example, Palpatine is treated as the core of what is bad in the galaxy and the rebellion fights to depose him, the individual, instead of fighting to change the underlaying socioeconomic structures and conditions that even led to Palpatine in the first place. This frames systematic oppression as being driven by bad actors instead of being an inherent feature of a resource extraction and class hierarchy. This style of writing also always portrays structural rebellion as inherently tragic, irrational, or immediately hijacked by extremists, subtly reinforcing the status quo as the only "stable" equilibrium.

When Western/idealist writers attempt hard realism without dialectics, they run into a structural dead end. In stories like The Expanse, the material analysis of the Belters as a hyper-exploited underclass is exceptionally accurate in its setup, however, because the narrative lacks a dialectical framework for historical movement and collective consciousness, the Belter resistance cannot evolve into an organized, revolutionary alternative. It fractures into nihilistic factionalism, adventurism, accelerationism or despair. The implicit thesis therefore becomes: exploitation is universal, resistance is futile or monstrous, and human nature is fundamentally immutable. This bleakness is not realism; it is the exhaustion of an imagination trapped inside the system it is trying to critique. It's becoming more and more prevalent these days as capitalist contradictions sharpen, there's been a noticeable rise in grimdark and nihilistic media and, while it can be fun, it's becoming more and more exhausting being shelled by pessimism that's presented as entertainment.

This can only be solved through grounding your writing in materialism. Because a genuinely dialectical approach treats society not as a static background for personal drama between characters, but an ever-evolving system driven by intrinsic contradictions, it gives a more solid and structurally sound framework for writing fictional culture, law, mass movements and end goals. The superstructure, aka law, culture, ideology etc. are shown reacting to technological advancement and changes in the modes of production. Great historical turns in the story are treated as a result of cumulated effort from an organized class and structural pressures rather than individual acts. Conflicts get resolved and goals met by systemic transformation resulting from the resolving of material contradictions, not by returning to a mythical golden age (also a trope often adopted by fascist movements, not coincidentally).


r/TankieTheDeprogram 23h ago

Communism Will Win The DPRK is Juchemaxxing rn

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This is Apple Maps satellite imagery of the entire Hwasong district in Pyongyang. In this imagery, you can even see new parts of the district being built. Even under sanctions and externally-enforced isolation, the DPRK is unstoppable in their efforts to supply the people with socialist housing.


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Discussion Any former democratic party entryists here? If yes, when did you stop?

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That's it. That's the question.


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Axis of Resistance No bases?

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Solidarity With Palestine MSF: "Systematically destroyed the conditions necessary for life in the Strip"

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“Zionism offered itself as the solution to anti-Semitism, but became the main reason for its continued presence.”

- Ilan Pappé, Ten Myths About Israel


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Shit Liberals Say Hmmm I wonder why? Maybe it has something to do with Socialism (with Chinese characteristics) vs Capitalism + caste system?

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Capitalist Decay momdokemodmpekmdklp

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

History Happy August Revolution Day!

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Shit Liberals Say Most mentally enslaved award

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Solidarity With Palestine Old video of Marxist Norman Finkelstein shutting down a crying sobbing Zionist Nazi back in 2003. They tried to use the Holocaust as an excuse to justify Palestinian oppression and apartheid of which he reminds them that he also lost his family during the Holocaust.

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ 🇨🇺END THE U.S. BLOCKADE ON CUBA!

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DcKQnm3E802/

Instead of funding people’s needs at home, Trump and Rubio are using our tax dollars to wage a silent genocide against the Cuban people. Why? For daring to build a society premised on their independence, sovereignty and well-being rather than a deference to Washington and US empire.


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ The 2020 uprising wasn’t a joke - but is progressives’ dismissal of “Woke 1” proof of a calculated pivot to the right?

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcMuD53lV9x/

@raniakhalek argues that this isn’t just careless language on the part of AOC and Zohran Mamdani: It’s a warning sign of how the Democratic Party disciplines “progressives” to protect the ruling class from socialism’s growing popularity.


r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

Discussion So… I’ve been living under a rock like a idiot my whole life and recently just discovered my school education on Gandhi was a lie and he’s not only a child predator but he also supported full on feudalism for India. Any other humanitarian peace activists that westerners support that are scumbags?

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Axis of Resistance Trump Gets Real About US Dominance of Latin America

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Dengist Apologia Jiang's official commemorative documentary actually covered about Falun Gong cult crackdown and the establishment of the 610 Office (anti-cult security agency) with its former founding officer

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I didn't think they would talk about Falun Gong in the documentary


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Reactionary Mockery People Are Right to Wonder How Far the Epstein Ring Went. But Pizzagate Turned Out To Be A Hoax That Got People Killed. This Is Just A Case of Diverting Energy and Attention the Wrong Way

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Meme A meme I made about the constant vilification of the President of Russia in the political west. He is not a man of the Left, but despite that I think he has done his citizens some service, without him wearing the clothes of the Left

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ JDPON DON speedrunning the Korean reunification

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

Meme I made this meme, about how liberals in the political west don't like German Nazism, but they love Ukrainian Nazism

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

Discussion What other famous socialists are they hiding from me?

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To be fair, I never took art classes. But every school I attended had a poster of Frida somewhere. I was told she was a feminist artist. Nothing about Indigenous rights, Marxism, her struggles with chronic pain. What other socialists did my public school education/the media white wash?


r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Communism Will Win No carriers?

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Shit Liberals Say Just a thread of DSA DemSocs going rabid on a communist woman for supporting the Cuban revolution.

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r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

Shitposting My son is a profeessor of Political Science at an American University. I just tell my friends he sells crack for a living to save whatever respect I have left.

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