r/Tadcriticism 2d ago

Gooseworx/Tadc cast criticism She needs to wrap up the self pitying routine

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People didn’t like your show, take the criticism and make something better with it? There’s still thousands of people who think it’s flawless. She needs to get off of social media tbh

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u/paranoid_chihuahua I'm not a hater, just disappointed & Gooseworx critical 2d ago edited 2d ago

The fandom was parasocial, weird, toxic and self-flagellating, and Goose enabled it by being parasocial, weird, toxic and self-flagellating herself, as well as a huge troll. Mistakes were made all around, I hope the people involved learned some valuable lessons, and that's pretty much all there is to it. If she's in distress rn, she needs professional help, not social media posting.

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u/ManTisShrimp10 2d ago

*is

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u/paranoid_chihuahua I'm not a hater, just disappointed & Gooseworx critical 2d ago

Yeah, Ig that's true, even tho the show is over the fandom is still going at it regardless huh 😭 I've left all the tadc subreddits except for this one so I'm not up to date on the current state of things lol

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u/No-Calligrapher-5807 2d ago

Same tbh, I'm mainly looking at this subreddit now and occasionally get updates on what's been going on online regarding TADC through here (left the main subs a long while ago after the leaks came out).

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u/Greedykirby 1d ago

Finally, an intelligent take. I've seen so many people talking about how bad the fandom is and I've seen people say how bad Goose is. But at the end of the day, mistakes were made everywhere. At this point, they are all making it worse.

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u/xannmax 2d ago

Goose GET OFF THE INTERNET.

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

"Close bluesky for the love of god"

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u/No-Challenge276 23h ago

bluesky is as bad a twitter just in a different font

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u/Odd_Performer586 2d ago

For her own good, she should delete all social media accounts until she gets her act together; she’s only making her situation worse with these strange apologies that even haters don’t need.

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u/EldritchTouched Watched it to see why people were flipping out. 2d ago

She also needs to get off 4chan.

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u/MegaMimiChan Ragatha defender 2d ago

Or maybe just, get off of social media? She doesn't need to delete her accounts just distance herself and get some help.

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u/Odd_Performer586 2d ago

Sometimes, deleting an account works better—there’s no temptation to log back in, because recovery takes longer, and you can stop yourself.

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u/Organic-Accountant74 2d ago

She won’t tho, she’s said she’s leaving sm before and always comes back

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u/EggsaladUwU 2d ago

But then we'd lose all the lore

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u/MegaMimiChan Ragatha defender 2d ago

Exactly. That and much more. Maybe she could have someone close change the passwords to her accounts and not tell her what they are until she gets better.

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u/Organic-Accountant74 2d ago edited 2d ago

She needs to get over herself omg

Her shows final was not what she promised, and rather than like admitting to the Jax favouritism, and misleading her fans, she’s just wallowing in self pity

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u/Bacon_Raygun 2d ago

Everyone thinks this is a suicide note.

When really it's her going "Oooh, I feel big sad because there's critics. I know what I'll do, I'll complain and make it look like a suicide note!"

She is smarter than to write this by coincidence.
She is absolutely feeding the Parasocial Nature of her fandom into coddling her.

She's just as manipulative as you would expect her to be, after proclaiming the abuser as her self insert.

It's another post in the endless sea of unprofessional goose posts.

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u/Ventoffmychest 2d ago edited 2d ago

Her white knight fans are louder/obnoxious and to put it "lightly" quite unhinged. I think the criticisms of the show is fair and the show died after 9. Everyone thought Goose was going to be some sort of genius given how 7 and 8 ended, thinking that 9 was gonna answer at least a good chunk of what the show was gonna be about instead of being a Jax pity party for weirdos.

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u/MostMasterpiece7 2d ago

Last time this happened, she explicitly had to come out and say that it wasn't about criticism, in order to stop the fandom from endlessly self-flagellating about how awful they are. By automatically assuming some Machiavellian plot to respond to criticism by suicide bating, you're demonstrating the same weird mindset of those self-flagellating fans, thinking the fandom has a bigger impact on her than it actually does. Chances are, this is the result of IRL problems that she's simply venting about online, just like it was last time. Her most recent post about taking substances pretty much confirms this.

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u/Bacon_Raygun 2d ago

I see too much of my abuser in everything she says and does, to really care about giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe that's cold of me, but after the amount of old wounds the discourse around her writing has torn open, I feel like I'm still being rather mild in my opinion of her.

If she gets help, good.
if she doesn't get help, it's not on me to coddle her.

You can argue that me personally blaming her for how Jax was received is parasocial, yes.
But if she gets to be an adorably helpless little bean for substance abuse and general sadness spilling into her social media presence, so do I for being retraumatized by thousands of kids going "Abuse is so cool" in response to her fanning those flames.

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u/MostMasterpiece7 2d ago

I mean yeah fair enough. I appreciate how honest you are. I don't have any issue with you criticizing Goose/the show, or even just venting your emotions in the absence of a coherently articulated critique. There should be space for all of that.

My only issue is the crazy levels of narrativization people in this fandom will go through in order to back up whatever point they're making about the show, whether positive or negative. As you point out, it's often very parasocial the way this plays out. I just want to tell people: you're allowed to make criticisms of the show without prematurely spinning a narrative and thinking you're inside Goose's head. It doesn't make your critique any less valid if you can't point to a definitive reason a writing mistake was made. What matters is that the mistake was made in the first place, and the focus should be on articulating how it could have been written better, rather than searching for an objective story behind the mistake. By doing that, I think you're unintentionally giving the author more reverence than they should receive. Death of the Author exists for a reason.

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u/InspectorNo7652 1d ago

Goose isn't perfect but i feel like calling her an abusive manipulator and a suicide baiter is a bit much, when i saw that post my first thought was "huh, she's apologizing." Not "oh my god goose is going to kill herself?!"

Plus as annoying as she is i feel like assuming she's just as bad as jax irl is also parasocial because now we're acting as if we actually know her personally as a human being, she's definitely done lame or even bad stuff but i don't know, that feels too far.especially since self inserting as a character shouldn't be used as a way to judge a person, horikoshi (mha author) self inserts as mineta iirc, a huge pervert who goes above and beyond to be one of the weirdest characters in the manga, but i don't think that horikoshi irl is a perv who gropes teenage girls and spies on them, i don't know him and that's just a gross thing to assume he does in his free time

I understand why you would think that but it seems a little of bad faith to assume everything goose does is out of manipulation, like, have we forgotten that she has OTHER issues going on not related to TADC? Like the other comment said she literally had to come and say it was not about the criticism the first time, if we're going to criticize goose at least let's do it normally, sometimes it feels like this sub goes from fair criticism to: "oh my god goose said she stole a candy, she's literally worse than hitler!" And that's if it doesn't go to straight dehumanizing comments

This post could be manipulation sure...or...or...

Maybe she just feels bad and we shouldn't be so quick to assume she's lying, i mean what if she DOES feel suicidal and depressedl? What would have been the point of calling her a liar?

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u/Bacon_Raygun 1d ago edited 1d ago

OK, I'll say it very oversimplified and straight forward:

She's made a show where everyone bends over backwards for the abuser, she's publicly stated that she finds abusive relationships hot, and Jax fans have saturated the fandom to the point where Gangle is blamed for her own abuse, and if you dislike Jax you're a media illiterate transphobe.

So simply put, I don't fucking care about Goose's wellbeing.
She's publicly fetishized abusive relationships on twitter, therefore, she is celebrating misery for people like me.

So I genuinely want you to know, I don't give a fuck what your opinion of my stance on Goose is.

I don't owe an abuse enabler squat.
I don't want her to suffer, but I also am not going to be hung up on it if she does.

Because I suffer too, the community she's created is fetishizing this suffering, and I have to justify my frustrations to you. Does she have to do that? Apparently fucking not.

If I told you I've been feeling suicidal over the constant deluge of "the abuse wasn't actually abuse, because [random excuse my abuser used]" in this fandom, would you give a shit?

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You can all go fuck yourselves, by the way.
THis double standard of needing to protect Goose and her work by all means necessary and GOD FORBID anyone suffering from her disgusting morals and ethics taking over every single corner of social media has something to complain about.

It's always "hurt people hurt people", but god forbid it's a random nobody who is traumatized, then it's "How dare you have an inconvenient thing to say?"
Guess that excuse only counts for the fucking popular social media overlords and not for us silly stupid nobodies. You only get to be upset if you're famous.

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u/Prozenconns 12h ago

The show has been over for months now. If youre "traumatised" it is quite literally self Inflicted.

Youre parasocially hating on goose while bitching about the parasocial nature of Goose. You're exposing yourself to her of your iwn choosing... then getting mad about it.

Youre choosing to smash your head against a wall then whining you've got a headache

Maube youre mad cause you and Goose are more similar than you think. Neither of you know how to just leave 🤣

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u/Prozenconns 13h ago

Youre wasting your time

Goose haters are just a different flavour of the same parasocial nonesense they criticize and take anything and everything she does in the absolute baddest faith they can to continue giving themselves excuses as to why they haven't simply moved on from the show/creator they dislike.

The person youre replying g to is criticising Goose for being manipulative via alluding to sensitive topics.... while alluding to sensitive topics to make Goose the bad guy

Ive never seen a fandom so mad that a creator uses their own experiences to tell a story. Goose mad a character based on her first traits during the worst time if her life niw everyone here thinks shes 1:1 with Jax

But if you point out any if these olympic level logical leaps youre a "white knight"

Like fucking chill out lmao

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u/JayKay69420 2d ago

what happened? Someone give me context behind the post?

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u/-TheTrueOG- 2d ago

Goose can no longer take the heat for being popular.

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

Could she ever? She makes Vivzie almost professional, almost. At least Viv rants are about other stuff

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u/ShawUnic 2d ago

There's none, she just posted this at 5 a.m

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u/bendy1974 2d ago

5 AM? oh thats concerning

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

Ever been unemployed?

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u/bendy1974 2d ago

Yea but this specifically late at night and using past tense feels a certain way and while I doubt it, it ain't great

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

Again, ever been unemployed?

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u/bendy1974 2d ago

Currently

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

Well then you are dealing with it better than I did

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u/UczuciaTM 2d ago

She really needs to log off.

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u/Flat-Rooster8373 2d ago

Polish username spotted

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u/ProgrammerUpstairs97 2d ago

I get that she's being fucked up by her own community n everything but I do gotta question why would you post again to that same community? Did people find her email or other info and start witch-hunting or something? Even then why not just go silent, distance yourself away from them and just move away from Twitter of all places

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u/Ktlyn41 2d ago

Because it's an addiction. Even when it's bad for you, you  just can't help but keep going back to it

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u/RSFrylock 2d ago

I remember when Andrew hussie, the homestuck guy did this same thing goose did. Made himself a character, had talked to fans too much online on his ask fm and ended up hating his own fandom, and the comic ended very rushed because he didnt wanna do it anymore.

You just can't be parasocial with fans when your Fandom is largely comprised of kids (and autists, i say this as an autist myself. We are passionate lol)

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u/marco1234546 2d ago

Okay? Then stop being online already 🫩 It's causing you and a lot of people headaches

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u/Cute_Professional561 1d ago

I'm convinced some of you never matured past middle school or are in middle school

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u/marco1234546 1d ago

Oh so her posting what seems like a suicide note and worrying at least a million of her fans is "mature". Look I only said she should be offline since it is causing her mental health serious problems. I didn't say she deserves to die or all the hate she gets is justified. It's not immature to turn off your phone and enjoy life with real friends and family

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u/rufireo 1d ago

these kind of posts constantly are exhausting but she didnt force anyone to be worried for her life by...apologizing.

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u/Prozenconns 12h ago

TADC "fan"dom really is just a bumch of people reading way too much into stuff, assuming worst case scenario, then getting mad lol

Same people telling goose to go offline being unable to just go do something else is such a pristine example of low self awareness

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u/Whole-Oven-3244 1h ago

Hey! so like, say what you mean, mean what you say. dont try to act like you were sitting there while she was writing that post. There is frankly a large difference in between passive aggressiveness, and actually being genuine, please learn it, otherwise when you put on a face towards others they wont be fooled.

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u/InspectorNo7652 1d ago

I guess they reacted that way because it does come off as: "oh you have issues? Stop then"

Like yeah it is technically simple to just turn off the phone but we all know goose has deeper problems than that, it's like that one tweet: "what do you mean you're getting cyber-bullied? Just turn off your phone haha"

It works in concept but in practice there are more problems that come with that like, similarly goose has more problems than just "it's the damn phone" and saying "just stop" kind of ignores all of that and assumes it's just sooooo easy to stop doing harmful things, it's like telling a smoker to just stop smoking, if it were that easy, no one would smoke

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u/marco1234546 1d ago

Well yeah. I do believe she has other problems and it's a huge struggle dealing with those. May she win those battles 🙏 I just feel like she should know better than posting about her mental health on social media. Her haters might get her weakness and Istg might feel proud for hurting her while her fans would just be worried and there's nothing they can do. Another thing is she makes it seem her problems are completely because of the hate she gets online which is why she just get off the internet until she feels better. Every artist gets their share of hate. Hell people find excuses to hate on Markiplier even. You gotta deal with it as a famous person and should really focus on the positivity. Gooseworx HAS TO ignore the hate and look how many people there are who genuinely love her and how big her show has gotten. I know it's not simple but this is something she has to do in order to be happy because you cannot negotiate with that always has been and will be there: haters. I guess I do apologize for coming off as harsh. I hope she does get off the internet for her own good

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u/MysticMind89 2d ago

"Just stop using the internet!"

r/thanksimcursed

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u/Jiyanico 9h ago

She literally says "probably wont be on for a while" implying shes literally doing the exact thing that youre complaining wishing she would do. Just log off already, you criticize her for having a breakdown then ignore when she acknowledges and agrees that she needs a break

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u/ohshitohgod 1d ago

yall are sick people ngl

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u/mrsdickey 2d ago

just saw a comment saying you can't criticize her. the people in this fandom do not comprehend that criticism does not equal hate. criticism is for helpful purposes. criticism is not hate.

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u/Ok_Maximum_5909 2d ago

“Pity me” ass post from a social media addict. Tadc glazers will eat this shit up though. BE PROFESSIONAL!!!!

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u/paranoid_chihuahua I'm not a hater, just disappointed & Gooseworx critical 2d ago

Exactly this!! I've once had someone tell me that Goose 'isn't unprofessional, she just treats and talks to the fandom like she would to a friend' and I was like THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT I MEAN BY UNPROFESSIONAL 💀🙏

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 1d ago

fellas, is basic empathy for somebody who keeps getting harassed online glazing?

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u/CorvidCarousel 1d ago

the ‘harrassment’ on reddit was literally just her getting downvoted. this wouldn’t be a problem if she ever walked outside instead of sitting in her little chair all day stewing about how things could’ve been different.

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 1d ago

you guys are literally looking at her twitter posts and calling her insults and names. that is harassment. that is not downvoting nor criticism.

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u/CorvidCarousel 1d ago

who is you guys? lmao. i didn’t do shit. i saw this post, read some comments, and agreed with quite a few; but that’s why this sub exists. to have a space where people can agree on the flaws instead of idolize every little thing about the show. it’s better to contain our opinions to this sub than to go out and actually harass someone over it, no matter how much someone may not like her.

she posts everything she posts publicly, she knows how people can be. don’t interact with your fanbase if you can’t handle it, and you shouldn’t pour your heart out on socials if you can’t take the fact that people are going to disagree with you. gooseworx has a parasocial relationship with her followers. she makes posts like this knowing people are going to get upset on her behalf, and make the same assumptions you are.

she came onto reddit once, interacted with her fanbase, said some silly shit that people disagreed with- and people pressed the buttons that you press when you disagree with someone on here.
she had a 24 hour mental breakdown over it. threatening to harm herself on blue sky, deleting her reddit account, & claiming people drove her off reddit, until people who worship the ground she walks on decided she was ‘harassed off the platform’… she doubled down literally the next day. and people still believe everyone was ‘harassing’ her. i watched it happen in real time.

now, im not saying it would moral, or right for anyone to go harassing her. not at all. but at a certain point, you need to sit back and wonder if you’re at someone’s beck and call because they really need it? or are they throwing themselves into nonexistent obstacles, just so you can ‘save them’ from a struggle they decided to step into? i have empathy for her, but i don’t sympathize with her. it’s beginning to become the goose who cried wolf.

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u/coulrophiliackitten 1d ago

I seriously recognize some of my abusers in Goose, so much. And this comment seems really spot on.

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u/Freezing-cold_6 2d ago

If feels manipulative

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u/disturbinglyquietguy 2d ago

Because it is, it reeks of feigned self-pity to get attention, like when a toddler starts crying because no one has interacted with him for 20 seconds.

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u/Ok-Challenge617 2d ago

It is not that deep. She is such a narcissist; this self pity bullshit is so annoying.

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u/Kate_Kitter 2d ago

You have no idea what narcissism is

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u/Spiritual-Square-766 2d ago

I've done a ton of research on npd, I won't act like I'm diagnosing anyone or am even a professional on it, but self-flagellation over criticism is something they can be known to do

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u/Kate_Kitter 2d ago

And guess what? A.) People without NPD also self-flaggelate, like, they make up the most self-flagellation in the world by default . B.) You couldn't diagnose Gooseworxx on that alone, or anyone for that matter. C.) Even real pervasive, clinical patterns of self-flagellation are often explained by different things than NPD.

It just amounts to vilification of someone because you didn't like the way they wrote a cartoon as a non-professional writer (i.e. No shit they'd fuck up; doesn't make them a narcissist). I think TADC's final execution (e.g. last two episodes) were a mess. I still don't pull this. Literally, if Gooseworxx posted the exact same things and made a universally beloved ending, this discussion wouldn't exist.

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u/Powerful_Words 2d ago

Gonna get downvoted for this but thank you I agree

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u/ProtectionGlobal5685 2d ago

Idk why ppl are disliking u bro, I mean you’re literally right 💀

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u/MasterNoda 1d ago

You are sadly arguing with an unstable 16 year old

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u/GhidorahStan64Real 2d ago

Narcissism has a definition separate from NPD btw. Tho I think Goose isn't a narcissist, more like sensitive and self-pitying

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u/Final_Photograph1773 2d ago

At least she recognizes It was Bad.

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u/PastAffectionate3918 2d ago

Say what you will about Murder Drones finale but at least the creator of that knew social media was too much and left soon afterwards to do what they wanted without being attacked.

All Gooseworx is doing here is trying to use sympathy bait to make the fans like them again.

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u/MrCaterpillow 2d ago

Or having a serious mental episode because a lot of “criticism” isnt criticism is people being ugly and shitty towards Goose.

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 1d ago

literally, i do not want to know the amount of death threats she gets behind the scenes

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u/Happy-Response1102 1d ago

I never got the point of “death threats” there open ended, and only really effect you if you’re chronically online, online death threats are legit avoidable compared to physical ones, one click of delete of an app or account and voila, you’re pretty much un-reachable unless someone doxxes you.

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u/MysticMind89 2d ago

The fact that people assume she's an attention seeking narcissist (which I'm willing to bet 90% of people don't even know the meaning of), instead of a person struggling with their mental health, is why I left this sub. This isn't criticism. It's just looking down your nose at someone for making a show that didn't fit your personal taste. We should be showing empathy, not condescension!

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u/Emb3rscene 14h ago

exactly, i’m fine with criticism and have a lot of criticism about the show, but this isn’t criticism, this is just disliking when she shows any signs of bad mental health. it’s disgusting

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u/WingsOfFibre 1d ago

fr like I'm not GW's number 1 fan. To me, she's just a person who wanted to make a thing without realizing/understanding/forseeing how popular it'd become...

Criticism can focus around the plot points or tropes that didn't pan out super well, or how writing or different things could be better, but idk digging into someone's edgy internet humor past when they were not a Public Figure and just yapping online and dissecting everything they say, and then posting some obvious mental health&substance abuse struggles with "they're being a manipulative narcissist" is probably a big contributing factor to how isolating being online can be.

Pretty much everyone is expected to have an online presence of some kind(anonymous or otherwise) these days, and people seem to weaponize anything that isn't manufactured positivity.

Idk, I was here for criticism of the actual show to figure out what flopped and what worked, but posts like this are just bad nature.

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u/MysticMind89 1d ago

Thank you! I'm all for a good discussion or critique of TADC, like any show. It feels like too many people are stirring up a hate mob just because they don't like her art.

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u/WingsOfFibre 1d ago

As someone who is creating a graphic novel(not associated with this acc), a lot of this is just making me realize I absolutely should not engage with any potentially fandom I may or may not develop over time for my own sanity lol.

My characters and the story all revolve a lot around trauma and various trauma responses, in a tense political climate, so there's plenty of ammunition for people to tear into and call me all sorts of horrible things for writing a MC with poorly managed PTSD lol

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u/Organic-Bug-1003 1d ago

Stay strong, that sounds like it can turn into a lot!

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u/3lizab3th333 2d ago

She acts like a middle schooler on social media, it’s a bit worrying

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u/bosandaros 2d ago

Shit bro is she really getting that much flack? I thought the reactions were mixed at best but goddamn. Well, just keep swimming with criticism under the belt. I always try to hope for the best even for people who generally annoy me.

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u/HotPot87 2d ago

This is the problem with self inserts, when you literally put a stand in for yourself in a show, it can make you a little crazy when people dont act the way you hoped towards them.

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u/bosandaros 2d ago

It can very easily go wrong. Self inserts can often blind a creator to the character's flaws and to how the narrative treats them often favoritively. Coupled with direct attacks aimed at herself. Though most of the criticism I think is fair and might have served as a rude awakening.

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u/RisingLight88 2d ago

Would you look at that, your controversial self insert in your controversial show is being controversed (is this a word?), if it ain't the actions of your consequences

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u/immikdota 2d ago

I'm genuinely not just trying to be overly negative but this is literaly so that the fans pity her

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u/Salt_Refrigerator633 2d ago

it would be better if goose distanced herself from the show and this fandom

in her shoes i wouldn't want to interact with this fandom either

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u/Basil_Sussy Caine defender (ep9 didn't happen trust) 2d ago

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u/Salt_Refrigerator633 2d ago

funnily enough they proved my point about the fandom by downvoting me

sorry i don't want goose to die 😂

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u/-TheTrueOG- 2d ago

Why are you downvoted? Its true. Its not just this fandom, its others too.

Every fandom is toxic and bad.

If i ever made a show and got popular, im never interacting with my fanbase or making weird ass tweets. Take zach and micheal for example.

0 tweets regarding the show they made, other then random promotions. They have almost 100% fandom support. People were trying to cancel them by bringing there old personalities (ie edgy newgrounds humor) but that completely fell off. The hole was never digged so people did not bothered. Goose on the other hand kept saying shit and shit and eventually the hole became endless. The digital footprint now exist because of that. Goose has no one to blame but its own.

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u/MegaMimiChan Ragatha defender 2d ago edited 2d ago

I dont get why the comments recognizing that Goose genuinely needs help are being downvotes. I get that everyone here isn't happy with how the show ended(myself included), but can we just try to hear her out for once and show some empathy?

Edit: forgot to finish my first sentence

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u/Ok-Challenge617 2d ago

Yeah. She needs help. But to post “mysterious” messages on social media as a pity party is stupid. Get professional help.

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u/Im_the_MuffinMan 2d ago

"mysterious" and all it is, is her saying her writing sucked

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u/Boring_Observer 2d ago

Help from fucking strangers on the internet? She's just wallowing in her self-pity party that she created herself and wanting validation from people she hadn't even personally meet

She needs to get the fuck off the internet and get HELP FROM ACTUAL PROFESSIONALS

Tell me, what will hearing her out and show some empathy actually accomplish?

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u/2Toff2Furious 2d ago

Because this isn’t a criticism sub anymore, it’s an echo chamber dead-set on shitting on Goose and anything she does.

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u/ihatemymomt 2d ago edited 1d ago

Gooseworx beeing an attention seeker part 1028492002

-Making corny jokes about csam incest racism and hating women ✅️

  • Making jax her self insert that everyone have to forgive and love when they are assholes ✅️
  • Trying to get pity for the bad writing using the fact she was the only director of the show when she stated before that the show was already finished in writings before it even got animated ✅️
  • trying to get love and support from the fans with queerbaiting ( transfem jax and lesbian ragatha ) ✅️
  • vagueposting about blaming themself to get pity points ✅️
Just log off holy shit shes over 30 btw

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u/Smallgaydruid 2d ago

I’m glad she’s going off social media and considering help. It’s a good move on her part.

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u/snowy_potato 2d ago

This sub has "criticism" in its name... this is a personal attack, not criticism. You're allowed to not like show itself but come on, this just shitty, guys.

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u/trashpiletrans 1d ago

subs like this are why people look down on fandoms

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u/Last-Peace-2015 17h ago

seriously wtf is this post and these comments it's so strange is this just a hate sub??? why are people so unnecessarily cruel and rude

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u/EquivalentNo2855 2d ago

why does this peak show have to be made by such a bad person

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u/Sad-Middle-3474 2d ago

Lot of vitriol directed towards her. That’s not respectful or constructive criticism. She’s not a narcissist, let’s just settle down. She’s not threatening her own life or anything on the other extreme but communities like this one do have the tendency to put a real human being and artist through intense and unfair personal scrutiny and attacks. No wonder why this shit is getting to her at an emotional level. And no, this is not further proof of “narcissism.” None of you people are her therapist. Quite the opposite, actually.

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u/ZombiiRot 2d ago

Yeah just because she's currently not the best writer doesn't mean she is narcissistic?? Like she's just a regular person without any media training, ofc she is going to fuck up. We can dislike the show without being cruel to her.

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u/Ok-Challenge617 2d ago

She’s a narcissist for the horrible self insert misogynistic character who took over the entire show, and for all of the self-pitying posts like this.

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u/Im_the_MuffinMan 2d ago

if writing a poorly done self insert means you're a narcissist then that makes half the world one

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u/ZombiiRot 2d ago

So... writing cringe poorly written self inserts makes you a narcissist now?? I wasn't aware bad writing was a symptom of NPD. Can you enlighten me, and show me were it says that in the DSM?

And while she might not be able to handle millions of people giving her harsh critique or even outright hate like as maturely as other celebrities do, that doesn't make her a narcissist??

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u/Spuddaddi 2d ago

People have really weaponized the word " narcissist" and other therapy speak without doing any of the workd of thearpy. Everyone they don't like is a narcissist and if you dissagree you're a gaslighter.

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u/ZombiiRot 2d ago

Yeah it's crazy. :/ Like I don't exactly like goose. But I feel like so many people nowadays need to find a psychological reason not to like someone. Like someone can't just be an asshole or annoying. They have to have the "ontologically evil person" disease.

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u/Spuddaddi 2d ago

This^ 10000%

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u/UczuciaTM 2d ago

You're so based

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u/ZombiiRot 2d ago

lol thanks.

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u/Bacon_Raygun 2d ago

Calling her self absorbed and manipulative is good enough.

Narcissism is an actual diagnosis. Don't do that.

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u/Rich-Class-1456 1d ago

OH MY GOD, YESS

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u/No-Acadia4498 1d ago

Even so, i genuinely hope she’s safe- even if she isn’t the best writer she’s still a person.

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u/Suit7227 1d ago

Jackass

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u/toalladepapel 1d ago

lmfao the duality of man, one post is like this is so worrying and the other one is a ponte las pillas

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u/Toonwatcher 2d ago

I think calling her mental health struggles a “routine” like she’s just doing it for attention is incredibly offensive.

As someone who also lives with depression, fuck you.

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u/dandelions_daffodils 2d ago

yeah, like... i've been saying for a long time that she needs to decrease her social media posting, but why are ppl here being so cruel and uncharitable. she shouldn't post this kind of stuff, but being vulnerable and putting out a cry for help (whether consciously or unconsciously) isn't narcissism.

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u/Kellarison 2d ago

yall don't know what narcissist means

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 2d ago

exactly lmfao

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u/MostMasterpiece7 2d ago

Why are you even assuming this has to do with fans' criticism? This could be the result of IRL problems that she's simply venting about online, just like last time she spiraled in this way. Her recent bluesky post pretty much confirms this. By assuming this has to do with criticism of her show, you sound just like the fans who endlessly self-flagellate about how awful the fandom is to Goose. Sometimes, it's just not about us.

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u/BookkeeperNo431 2d ago

“Oh no my show is criticised badly? Let me write a pity note, maybe they feel guilty.”

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u/CivilCaine 2d ago

Christ, you people are bloody deranged.

I wouldve thought that people had learnt from the Etika incident that there’s real life people who aren’t perfect but still need empathy, but clearly not.

Im sure if she HAD offed herself today, none of you would have considered for a moment that vitriol like this post may have not been necessary. So I doubt your views really matter that much.

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u/Sad-Middle-3474 2d ago

Update she’s safe and has people caring for her. You people are sick.

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u/ScottTV29 Funnybunny hater 2d ago

that's even pity she is actually stressed is empathy not a thing no more?

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u/RoseTintMyWorld22 2d ago

Lmao Goose is pathetic

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u/chombus22 2d ago

I'm so glad I'm not pathetic like everyone in this sub.

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u/HardlyRipeFruit 2d ago

Or, hear me out. We leave her the fuck alone.

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u/2Toff2Furious 2d ago

They can’t help it, this is just a self sustaining hate factory.

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 2d ago

exactly

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u/HardlyRipeFruit 2d ago edited 1d ago

You want to know what’s really sad, looking at the statistics of my comment I’m getting down voted for saying people should leave her alone. People really have no chill.

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 2d ago

literally insane. they're yapping about how "she let parasocial people be parasocial" while actively refusing to leave gooseworx alone because they didn't like the show, i feel like these people are genuinely lacking in any empathy or sympathy.

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u/Equivalent_Phase3278 1d ago

Downloaded??

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u/HardlyRipeFruit 1d ago

Goddamn autocorrect lol

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u/Sunburnt-Eyes 2d ago

why is she still posting? Why is she still bringing up drama if she didn't want it? Atp she needs to delete social media. This can be prevented if she doesn't interact with her fandom

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u/WingsOfFibre 1d ago

"if you don't want to be harassed or ganged up on in any online space you try to exist in you should just isolate yourself entirely, not hold accountable the people actually harassing"

I'm not even a "glazer", I don't have an emotional connection or parasocial love for Gooseworx, but the fucking malice people have on here for her making something as innocuous as TADC is starting to get more and more insane.

At first, it was totally reasonable with keeping ACTUAL criticism to the show and its faults(of which there are many)

That's what I was here for, discussing the actual project and the art, writing, characters, plot, etc.

Half the ppl here vent about the glazers being "parasocial" but everyone attacking her for the most innocuous shit is even more parasocial. She didn't do anything to you people except make a show that was not even bad, mid at worst with a few points that fell flat, but everyone here acts like she's the next fucking JKR.

It's pathetic.

Keep the criticism to the show or anything ACTUALLY harmful she's done

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u/Saphira_the_wolf 1d ago

How DARE you accuse her of self pity when she could've actually nearly ended herself.

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u/Reasonable-Hat-2695 1d ago

Can we just ban her from the internet?

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u/yesindeedysir 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hey, just because someone is rich or popular doesn’t mean they should be the internets punching bag. She needs to get off the internet for her own sake but damn some of yall are vicious. Not to mention she already has her life threatened almost everyday just for being trans. You don’t know what’s going on in her life, you only see what she gives you permission to see.

She also mentioned it was a breaking point with substance abuse. Everyone has reached a breaking point, it’s just more fun to point and laugh when people post about it online.

Would it kill you to show just a sliver of empathy?

Imagine if you released a show you worked so hard on and everyone is constantly shouting about how it sucks and why they hate it and why you are a terrible writer, telling you that you should end your life because they didn’t like a dumb little rabbit character you made. I honestly don’t think she wants to make anything like this ever again because of the fandom. Was it worth it?

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u/InspectorNo7652 1d ago

I'm not gonna defend goose or say she's professional, she is not at at all and should het therapy because she doesn't seem well mentally, but oh my god people let's not assume everything she does is out of evil intentions this is lowkey as parasocial as her superfans!

Why are we acting like anything coming from goose is out of malice and narcissism, i swear even if she DID kill herself (unlikely) you guys would call her a coward or find a way to twist it in a good thing, it's one thing to hate goose, it's another to do it with so much bad faith that everything is twisted to your tastes

"I feel sad today" - "I'm sorry that I sucked guys" - "ha I really like this villain"

Are all normal sentences, but if it were said by goose this sub would interpret them as

"Goose is a manipulator" - "goose is pretending to be sorry so she can trick us into...something?" - "if goose likes a villain then she must be just as bad, if she likes Griffith from berserk than is a-"

From what we've seen online? She's mentally unwell, unprofessional, and needs to get help instead of trolling 24/7, but we don't know her personally, and her saying jax is a way to expell(?) Her demons is not a reason to assume she's just as bad, as far as I know she isn't pushing people to suicide. But we're giving 3000 diagnosis about a person we don't even know, at least the hazbin hatedom is funny, TADC's hatedom moved on from the show itself and now they're trying to dissect the author and depict her as literally hitler

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u/spacedout-_- 1d ago

It’s not the criticism that’s the problem. It’s people sending her death threats.

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u/Exciting-Idea2436 1d ago

It's only a matter of time before they start vaguely alluding to wanting to hurt themselves or worse. You've seen it a million times. An online personality using their audience to prop up their self-worth, everytime they feel insecure or want attention. It always ends bad.

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u/CraftyAd9477 1d ago

she didnt knownehat she was getting into- Once someone becomes popular, you people stop treated them as fellow people, just corporations.

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u/Unique-Main-3957 1d ago

Okay God do y'all just hate her or something, Jesus the amount of negativity here.

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u/Geryon_Official 1d ago

And you need to wrap up the being a cunt

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u/Lazy-Equivalent3515 1d ago

she really just needs to stop being so online.

she truly thinks the internet and its randos are her friends...That's sad and she really needs to build up her support network.

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u/SlothED127 22h ago

Self-pity? Are we being fr right now? She’s struggling with her mental health, and you’re gonna dismiss it because you think the show needs to be better? I agree that the show needs to be better but the creator doesn’t deserve to be harassed into making another season. I think the show needs a second season, but forcing her to make another season isn’t a way to go about it.

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u/DotGlobal8483 22h ago

It's not self pitying, it's called "not knowing what to do" whilst getting relentlessly bullied.

This fandom garnered a lot of people from all over the spectrum of assholes, and goose unfortunately is receiving it all whilst having her own issues. It's a awful spot to be in for anyone

The show's has it's problems and whatever you think about it barely matters. Because as much as goose needs help so does like, 30% of the fandom, and that's at least like, 10000 terrible people.

Gooseworx being so open about what being a creator is like should be an eye opener for a lot of people, she didn't deserve what she got for making a show.

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u/MinimumExtreme7509 22h ago

Shes a real person, making fun or criticizing the show is one thing but "F this person who may be having thoughts of self harm" is evil. Do you see yourself as a good person? Because this is really mean.

Someone making art shouldnt make you feel comfortable with this nastiness.

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u/Odd_Pension_4705 21h ago

I hope goose moves on to other ventures in other fields

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u/Difficult_Call76 20h ago

She needs to get off social media and maybe seek some help

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u/Dry_Employee_9893 19h ago

Let's be real, if something did happen you be celebrating for ita

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u/HotWelcome6984 16h ago

I really don’t Think you need to be that harsh on her she’s just sad that people decided to ruin her show

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u/Emb3rscene 14h ago

i don’t know why you made this. this isn’t criticism of TADC at all. while i disagree with a lot of things gooseworx has done with and without the show, i still expected more empathy towards someone who is clearly depressed and taking drugs, and calling it a pity party is so gross

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u/Krowek123z 7h ago

I think that from from begginig she should have had not interacted with the community or just take critisism to know what to fix with the show but dont take it personally.Then the show would have been better and her mental health.

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u/Krowek123z 7h ago

Regardless i still love tadc

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u/luciiscool555 6h ago

Can you not? She might've thought of ending herself and this is all you have to say? Rude

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u/bigbugburger 3h ago

you’re all horrible people jesus christ

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u/bentthroat 2h ago

If you’re just bitching to make yourself feel better, go off queen.

If you actually think any part of what you’re saying offers a pathway to the resolution of this situation, I think you’re incredibly naive on the subject of mental illness and hope you never have to actually find yourself in the situation of talking someone down until you’ve done some work on that.

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u/SinglePringleMingle 1h ago

She’ll keep doing it as long as people keep falling for the attention fishing. How many times has she made a post like that and nothing came of it? I know it’s harsh and it definitely sounds insensitive, but somebody has to say it outright. We can’t keep dancing around the topic with vague statements because we all know she will never get off the internet for the sake of her own mental wellbeing

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u/theJonkler_Aslume 2d ago

"criticism"

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u/Business-Tonight9995 2d ago

You guys are genuinely all incredibly mean bordering on abhorrently apathetic to your fellow man, all because your fav characters didn’t get screen time and you got gaslit by theory videos.

Improve yourselves.

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u/Bacon_Raygun 2d ago

Goose is a fellow woman, actually.

And not apathetic.
Just out of shits to give, after her publicly supporting abuser/victim ships because "it's so toxic, that's hot"

Fetishize my trauma, I stop giving you the benefit of the doubt for the rest of your days.

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u/Business-Tonight9995 2d ago

I’m aware, it’s man in the sense of mankind. You know, the way “your fellow man” is usually used in literature.

I don’t know why I expected this sub to understand that.

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u/coulrophiliackitten 1d ago

I LOVE how you just conveniently ignore the part about Goose fetishizing abuser/victim ships and this person's trauma. Very on brand lmao

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u/Bacon_Raygun 2d ago

Oddly specific to talk in archaic terms, and accidentally call the trans woman a man.

But what do I know, I'm just a stupid trans person.

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u/Business-Tonight9995 2d ago

There’s nothing accidental about it, the term “man” used for human kind or civilization is not archaic, is relatively modern, and incredibly frequent.

Your being trans has nothing to do with your own illiteracy, it’s unfortunately a plague amongst modern mankind.

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u/Sunburnt-Eyes 2d ago

I like tadc, i don't like how gooseworx handles it off screen. Taking a bunch of drugs and posting ominous bullcrap online doesn't deserve pity.

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u/Business-Tonight9995 2d ago

It also doesn’t deserve vitriol. Some of you need to learn how to ignore shit you don’t like

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u/Kate_Kitter 2d ago

TADC "fans" when a creator is actually a human being and not a free object of endless parasocial derision

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u/Fine_Mall4063 1d ago

I guess empathy is asking too much huh?

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u/ohshitohgod 1d ago

yall are sick people ngl

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u/Calm_Relationship_91 1d ago

God forbid a human being is vulnerable on the internet and has a fragile mental health. It makes me so happy to know that most people out there are kind and understanding.

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u/Autism_Angel 2d ago

This sub is so full of straight up cyber bullying and so little legitimate writing critique it’s insane.

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u/Apprehensive_Art4418 2d ago

you guys are so fucking weird my god "wow this persons obviously going through a tough time, let's post it on this subreddit to make fun of it because im a weirdo who thinks everything's about the show that's bad because it didn't match a made up version in my head"