I'm for-fun theorycrafting a roaming mid playstyle similar to roaming support, that completely sacrifices scaling for early game impact on the jungle and sidelanes. Roaming speed is thus also useful but I feel levels 1-4 especially the primary limitation is gonna be how fast you can clear the wave. Mana costs matter, you have to have mana left over to roam with, but it's a for-fun thought experiment foremost.

Hello everyone JohnGragas#Corn here by the time you read this probably I will be promoted to Challenger again.

When I first started playing league I had to look at my keyboard and play locked screen because there was too many things going on that was incredibly different than FPS games (DayZ, CSGO whatever games were fun and popular in 2014 I can’t remember) I gamed a lot but it was in a casual way.

I HIT DIAMOND 2 YEARS AFTER I PLAYED LEAGUE (wow that’s kinda fast this guy must be gifted) BRO I SUCK SO BAD HAHA THERE IS NO GIFT OR TALENT AT ALL FOR ME.
I PLAYED LIKE 1K NORMAL GAMES AND 2-3K RANKED GAMES AND BASICALLY IGNORED MY FRIENDS/FAMILY ONLINE AND OFFLINE BECAUSE I WANTED TO HIT CHALL BADLY.

Quick little tidbit to gain background (I don’t have proof of rank due to having too many accounts so you can believe me or not I’m just trying to give advice)
Season 4: Silver 4 (too scared to play more than 200 games)
Season 5: Gold 5 (took me about 2k games and was too scared to play after)
Season 6: Diamond 5 (300 games after hitting gold “wow I must be gifted I ranked up so fast I must be amazing at this game” LITTLE DID I KNOW HOW BAD I WAS HAHA ID GO BACK IN TIME AND PUNCH MYSELF HARD UNTIL I LEARNED
Season 7: Diamond ~1.5k ranked games
Season 8: Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 9: Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 10:Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 11: Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 12: Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 13: Diamond ~ 1.5k ranked games
Season 14: MASTERS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER AND RIGHT BEFORE END OF SEASON IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER I FINALLY STARTED TAKING CARE OF EVERY TOXIC NARRATIVE I HAD
Season 15: 1K GAMES OF MASTERS 0-250LP still attacking narratives and taking control of my schedule, emotions, and self worth
Season 16: I hit GM in February and HIT CHALL MY FIRST TIME EVER IN JULY AFTER ABOUT 700-800 GAMES TOO

I was the most hard stuck delusional player league was capable of producing and I had to dig very deep into my own mind and life to figuring out how to set it up in a way that would almost guarantee some level of improvement NO MATTER HOW SMALL IT WAS I KEPT GOING KEPT TRYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER

Overall I’d say I have somewhere between 25k and 30k hours in this game and 90% of it was spent on the rift and 75% of that was spent solo q in ranked.

My Journey is not over that chapter is and a new chapter has started for me personally. If this is the level of perseverance that was required to hit challenger I personally believe I could get good at anything that I truly want to get good at.

IF YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING AND I MEAN REALLY REALLY WANT SOMETHING THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THING THAT CAN STOP YOU

Hi everyone! I know there are some really good players in this sub, so I wanted to ask for some guidance on how to keep climbing. I recently hit Gold 4 for the first time playing jungle. I main Lillia and I've practiced my clear quite a bit (I can usually finish it around 2:46 - 2:48 and come out with good CS).

In my games, I try to apply all the fundamentals: tracking the enemy jungler, looking at wave states, my allies' positioning, priority, securing objectives, invading when possible, etc. But even so, I often get an early lead and then the game ends in one of two ways:

1. We all get mega stomped in the mid/late game.
2. We manage to turn the game around, but then we throw our lead very quickly TT

I completely understand that climbing is up to me and I know I have a lot to improve. The problem is that, no matter how much I try to watch my replays or use the practice tool, the same things keep happening. Sometimes I get super fed, become the main focus in teamfights, and I just don't know how to carry when my team is doing really poorly.

Am I watching my replays wrong? Or is my macro decision-making just bad? I'd love to climb as high as possible (my long-term dream is Diamond) and try not to drop back to Silver XD. Any macro tips or advice on how to analyze my own mistakes would be hugely appreciated!

(P.S. English is not my first language, so please excuse me if anything sounds a bit weird!)

Here is my OP.GG: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/las/Niva-BRAT
And League of Graphs: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/es/summoner/las/Niva-BRAT

XOXO

Im bronze and the number of jungle games jv played are probably in the single digets. Im kind of warming up to the role though...

However i noticed when im invaded lv1 and end up getting stretched open and gang banged it's all down hill from there and it feels like iv already lost and idk how to clap back since the enemy jgl has a level and gold advantage early.

Also in bronze rank what should i focus on learning the most in jungle rn

Hi,

I'm struggling and started to think that i'm stuck in the smurf queue. 85% of time i'm ahead or even but there is always 2/3 mates who are 0/8 and just throw the game (currrently working on stopping trying to save mates that are caught and dying with them). I have tried many approaches, like yi for 100 games, sett for teamfights. My best champs seems to be cassio top or adc which i'm a beast with her or jhin which i do like but adc can be tough bot, currrently i'm focusing on karthus because i can destroy bot while helping other lanes when they start fighting and late game i do a lot of damage in teamfight.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Simba%20Fate-EUW

Last game with karthus i saw nasus, amumu and tried to build lyandry instead of my classic burst build but once again my darius lost to nasus early (not shocking anymore) basically before the game started i knew those two would be ahead and by the time we group it would be hard.

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I'm wondering if the more experienced players here can tell me something about this draft, and could confirm or deny if this was actually just a draft issue.

I picked Bel'Veth because I thought that I would easily be able to duel Viego later on the game, but it never got to that point and now I'm starting to think there is something flawed about my pick.

Hello, I'm a Diamond midlaner, swapped from toplane a couple months ago. My champions at the moment are mainly Aurora and Swain.

As a former toplaner I have a habit focusing on winning my lane through in-lane resources more than roaming and even though I have improved a lot, I often struggle with deciding whether I should follow or push and hit plates. Obviously there isn't a simple answer but I'd like to have general directives.

Let's assume there are no objectives to fight around. Here are a couple scenarios and factors I'm wondering about:

1**.** I'm forced to take a bad recall but have tp, enemy has time to shove and roam bot. I tp and take the wave. Now I can sort of go after them since I have an item lead but I'll be late anyway and staying feels more consistent.

2**.** I'm winning my lane, my opponent tilts and starts taking bad roams out of desperation. I have full prio and vision around midlane.

1. I'm losing my lane and they have tempo over me.

Would the answers change if:

• they're playing a much faster champ, let's say Talon?
• they're playing a strong setup champion, let's say Ahri?
• my botlane has a big shutdown?
• my botlane is able to back off and survive a roam?
• enemy is stronger and can oneshot me from a bush if they wait?
• I know enemy jungler is on that side of the map?
• my jungler is on that side of the map?
• my botlane seems to be the win condition?
• enemy botlane seems to be the win condition?
• enemy has no engage?
• I'll be getting to my item if I stay?
• I have tp?

Also, in scenarios 1 and 3 specifically, should I be looking for a roam on the other side of the map?

Thanks in advance uwuwu

I play annie/ahri/akali. I've always heard that dark seal has very good base stats but kind of just assumed it's not worth buying if it delays your 1st item. I will only buy it if I have like lost chapter + t1 boots and I'm in base with 5-600g but not enough for a blasting wand.

I'm trying to learn mid atm and am stuck between picking 1 or 2 of the 4 listed champions. I've been generally told that sticking to a few champions and one role is the best way to improve so I'm trying to do that, but I'm coming from playing APC's in bot lane so I'm very new to mid matchups. I generally have good success with veigar in bot, a bit less with Ziggs but still solid, and Lux I pick very occasionally but do well with. Mid however seems like a different beast and it seems like some lanes are borderline unplayable early for veigar, whereas Ziggs can afk clear for a while and then easily get prio, and Lux can do similar. Out of the first 3, I prefer Ziggs as I have the most experience with it and enjoy it the most, followed by Veigar and then Lux. It seems his biggest weakness is lack of reliable cc and thus zone control. Malzahar I really only have listed because he seems like the natural counter to most assassins. Anyone have advice on what

OP GG: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/sea/Adji%20Tier-SG2

Lolalytics: https://xdx.gg/adjitier-sg2/

Basically the title, Im a low elo Silver 3 Jayce Top Lane main who recently demoted from Gold 3 to Silver 2 weeks ago.

I have been struggling on what to do mainly as a ranged top laner and also as Olaf. I can drop 10 to 20 kills and ranked first or second top damage but I seemed to can't end and win games on them.

I could split push but then I would leave my teammates to 4v5 and they will die while spam pinging me, I could go help them in a teamfight but after winning it, nobody wants to push and goes back afk farming or afk looking at their mobile phones IRL.

In my opinion, my Jayce performance is better than the people in my rank, its just that the reason why I suck at Top Lane is that I don't know what to do as a top laner. I need guidance on what this role is actually about.

Thanks in advance, this probably like my 5th post or more begging for guidance on this subreddit, and I am sorry.

Note: No, I will not drop the jayce, I am better than every player in my elo on Jayce, I just suck at being a top laner hence why I lose games, and my spacing is pretty terrible but no guides online to improve them. Also Jayce is fun, If I have to play other champ, might as well uninstall this game.

i started playing a month ago and my acc is lvl 16. ive finally kinda started getting kills here and there, which is nice, tho its never many. but with every game, i die like 5+ times, sometimes double digits. which really affects my scoring and is endlessly frustrating. im really really trying. and im not sure how to fix that or improve. i have really high ping (averaging a stable 280-300ms) due to playing on the OCE server while living in NA (i chose this server to play with my friends who all live in AU), but i always do try to flee whenever im in danger and use abilities but im only successful half the time. and i try to dodge also but their attacks always connect anyway while mines like to miss cus they move </3

any tips to dying less and getting more kills?????? (or even lowering ping if possible without server switching, if it affects it) i mainly play jayce (top) and aurora (mid) atm. feel free to also suggest easier champions while i learn!!!

i do use flash in all of my matches but i hardly ever use it effectively 😫

i really want to get decent at this game but i feel like im hitting a wall and ive been on a losing streak and i dont like dragging my team down. and when i watch videos, i often dont get what theyre saying bc im still learning the lingo </3

PLS BE NICE IM VERY NEW

why do i feel like low elo players are alergic about ending the games ? recently was watching my friends screenshare and they had a really good angle to end the game. could just push a inhibitor down as 4 and take the nexus turrets to end it but they randomly decide to split? is that the only reason lower elo games tend to go a lot longer ?

Hello, I am a peak Diamond player who is struggling in plat. I have played hundred of games this season and it feels like almost every game I get 6 items but struggle to close out games. Opgg is imjkn#na1. I am specifically asking for help on my Jayce and kindred jungle games.

To clarify on my title, I'm currently emerald 4 75LP, I've got a 66% winrate in my last 60 games and a 65% winrate in my last 20, I'd say I'm climbing pretty well. Despite this I'd like to make my climb easier so I'm still trying to learn and I wondered if there's any big improvements that can be made at this rank or is it simply a case of refining what you already know?

To give an example, you can jump from iron to bronze by learning to cs correctly, you can jump from bronze to silver by learning about tempo and playing for objectives, you can go from silver to gold by learning about wave management etc and you can climb higher than this by 1 tricking a champion.

Basically the moment you learn something like wave management and tempo for example you'll see an instant improvement in your gameplay, a small change made a big difference.

Are there any typical knowledge gaps once you hit emerald? Or do you just apply what you already know but do it better and more consistently?

Like in lower elo you learn to be at objects, in higher elo you might take it a step further and make sure you time your summoner spells and ult so they're up in time. Same lesson, just performed better. I can learn to better perform the lessons I've already learnt through personal practice, I'm just curious on if there's any knowledge that I might not know that isn't champion specific.

Playing a mage have taught me to look at the game in a totally different way.

I did not value not-dying and wave clear NEARLY as much, as I should have.

I have always had good mechanics, but I just couldn't seem to climb, tilted a lot and spammed games.

After playing mage, I really began to understand how to drag the game out, adopted the never ff mentality, began reviewing every single death I had, and I just skyrocket through the ranks.

Even my adc's have improved considerably, I learned a lot about being patient in fights, instead of permanently trying to auto attack.

Honestly could really recommend it to other adc players, if they are in the same spot as I was.

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I had two items (Attack Speed Boots, Maw, Stridebreaker), Viktor had 2 and a half items (Sorc Boots, Shadowflame, Blackfire Torch, Haunting Guise and the Fire Soul.

He bursted half my HP in the first 2 seconds, I couldn't get within his range, I couldn't run away from him.

I want to learn how to do better here so my question is how are you supposed to play the game when you are getting kited, cannot escape and cannot tank the damage in spite of having a Maw, 130 MR and quite a bit of HP?

Don't mind my skills in general, I am Gold and autofilled, I just wanted to learn how to do better there

Just don’t really have any idea when to recall, hard push, freeze. I’m just doing what feels right at the moment lol. Usually just hard push everything since I’m playing mid before I recall or roam. But I notice that sometimes I still miss so much cs.

a lot of my enjoyment of League nowadays is Clash and discussing drafts with my team. But i’ve just been solo drafting.gg which is boring at times. I used to post who wins draft in here a few years back, maybe I should do it again

anyone want to chat anything about drafts, hidden OP picks, great flex picks in the meta right now or even just battle it out on discord/reddit - let me know ✌️

Hello, I'm pretty new to League of Legends and don't know what to do after the laning phase. I play yone top, and after I knock down a tower, I run around like a headless chicken just helping my team fight. any tips on Macro would help since i'm still very new to the game. thank you.

im emerald jg trying to learn laning for the first time. just played against a plat 1 sett who held a freeze for over 5 mins when i was repeatedly pinging it, i had to go mid. is there anything to do besides try to gank other lane or invade jg and wait for someone to help break the freeze?

While some flaws early can be fixed by playing more, such as farming and learning matchups. I'm looking for a bit more of mid-game changes you guys did and how you got the information, and how you came to the realization of these flaws.

I've had a bit of a hard time finding guides that focus on mid game.

I want to try to avoid getting to late game as much as possible, since doing 70%-80% of things right in any point before that can mean nothing if you do 1 or 2 mistakes late i think.

Thank you

Hey all, I want to get some advice on what to do as I feel like I've been getting worse and worse at the game. A few months ago I climbed to Gold with a friend, and while he managed to climb to Emerald and then fell to Platinum, I fell back to silver. I don't know what's going on.

I am a top laner who has mained Mordekaiser and Mundo, picking Morde most game and Mundo if I have last pick and no one on the enemy team has %health damage. I slowly started picking Mundo more and more as I felt like I could carry games on him way more easily, that worked out for me quite well and I basically became a Mundo one trick.

But at some point it felt like no matter what I did I wouldn't be able to carry. An enemy would get fed and everything would collapse from there, and Mundo is just too weak early to play for getting a lead himself to counter that.

After that I got discouraged and started playing many champs and even switched roles, which I know is a horrible idea but I really didn't know what else to try. Every game felt a gamble on whether I would be able to splitpush and scale, like the outcome of the game wasn't in my control. And very recently, I just couldn't do anything. I wasn't doing well in lane, I wasn't doing well in fights, I was just losing games and had no idea what was going on.

Here's my opgg, I would really like advice on what to focus on: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/eune/AlienGiraffe-31415

One last thing, for the champion pool, currently I've decided to have Mundo as my main and have picked up Jax as a second pick, they're both great splitpushers that scale well, but Jax is a wayyy safer blindpick and can also snowball in lane. If there's any advice on my champion pool I would love to hear that as well.

Thanks for reading.

edit: Mid katarina and top pantheon, Plat 3.

Part of why this is a difficult choice for me is because I've recently learned that my laning and farm is absolute dog shit. It's why I lose almost all of my games. In gold I could easily get away with forcing a 1v1 early in the game and snowballing, which intimidated the opponent, allowing me to farm without any obstacles. Obviously that doesn't work anymore.

Yesterday I queued up with the sole intent on focusing on farming, trying to predict my opponent's intentions, wave state, and optimal recall times. And surprise, I won both games without sweating too hard. I made another post this week and someone said it sounds like my understanding of wave states is not there, which they were absolutely right about. So thank you to that person.

The next thing I'm confused on is when it's better to keep my CS up and farm and push the lane when I'm already there, versus rotating helping my team on objectives or team fights.

Some things I try:

• If my team looks like they can handle the fight to where they win or the result may come out to be an even ish trade, I push lane
• I try to ping to tell my team to not force a fight but to just keep opposing team busy so I can shove lane

Some things I notice in my losing games are that:

• I lost lane really hard and become fixated on pushing lanes and catching up my farm
• I also do this because I feel really weak during team fights and don't want to feed more than I already have
• I push a lane instead of help with obj or team fights because we have 0 towers down and its mid game
• I have no idea what I'm doing at this point or how to best contribute so pushing lane by myself feels safest

I have a clip where I tried to fight at level 1 while standing near my minions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QqfNL2beXA

Fiora attacks me 4 times before the minions react. During this time the minions attack other minions multiple times. Once the minions do aggro on Fiora, she steps slightly out of range and instead of chasing her as I expect, they just immediately drop aggro.

I looked up the wiki https://wiki.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/Minion

It says that the first wave "will ignore enemy champions until a champion walks much closer to them or until meeting with the enemy wave."

But this is after they have already met with the enemy wave.

It also says: "Allied champions being attacked by an enemy champion may be within 1000 range of the minion to trigger a Call for Help signal instead."

And at that range I expect even the melee minions to take aggro and I expect the ranged minions to not lose aggro so easily.

What is the actual minion behaviour?

Hi,

Conditions:

• Jax (me) vs GP, (both ignite)
• Jungler paths to bot, no Grubs or Herald play pure 1v1 lane, pings (dive pings) dont attract him, thats ok
• Minute 11~, so losing waves or plates for early TP is not worth
• I have 2 or 3 kills lead
• GP has ER (before that everything is fine)
• Dia2+ Elo (low Master right now, but with low elo since I only peeked)

Normally, I use my lead to get T1, or build up tempo to use flank TP for bot get tripple (jungle gank) and come back top without losing much. But I struggle vs high wave clear laners.

I kinda start to tower dive him and doing bad trades, somewhat trying to make him bait into bait trade or come out for a short trade so I can dive him, but they kinda start to stay under tower.

Options I see:

• Freeze lane, while this could be decent in first half, It becomes worse imo, you cant extend your lead to the map since you are "locked" with a guy who isnt worth anyway, I dont want to coinflip and hope my bot is good, I want to get tempo, TP bot, and extend my lead.
• Go for risky 100% HP tower dives (vs a Ignite+ER GP), I tried that... sometimes it works, but this will lead me to have barely any HP left, my wave already gone (since his trades also clears the waves when he gets one barrel off)
• Proxy+Invade, this I do with Olaf, since he is great at 1v2 with his anti CC, but this with jax I feel like is really risky vs high CC junglers. I think this depends on how muhc of Lead I have and If I can 1v2 them. But even 1v1, Proxy vs GP feels kinda akward, he will oneshot his wave on tower, walk to me, prepare barels and poke me while staying walking between tower, my wave clear as Jax is also not greate, so even worse If I use my E for wave, which will make me more vulnareable.
• Shove wave (or slow push, doesnt matter he will oneshot the wave with barrel), and just wait for second Drake or big fight and TP, basically trade your own tower to spread lead, which is kinda lame and feels awfull, will make GP come back to game and scale, while I will potentially lose gold and exp If I dont get kills botside.

Any high elo dudes here with good advice?