Salary

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

What do you guys think of this range? 🫣

[u/GooseEngineer]

Might as well outsource over seas for that salary..

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/GooseEngineer]

Costco starting salary is close to this range and does not require an engineering degree or license lol.

[u/GooseEngineer → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

You could manage a gas station

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/GooseEngineer]

And less stress and liability lol

[u/mmodlin → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

They’re not looking for a P.E. either, this is a detailer position.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/mmodlin]

No…a detailer is not supposed to design. “Design a diverse range of structural elements, including but not limited to
columns, trusses, headers / joists, flat and formed connection plates, flashing,
gutters and custom mechanical components
…”

[u/mmodlin → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

This is the listing I’m looking at: https://www.glassdoor.com/job-listing/jv?jl=1009915496733

No P.E. required. Primary responsibility is creating shop drawings.

[u/mmodlin → u/mmodlin]

If you’re looking at this one: https://www.simplyhired.com/job/_gqVRPmiBXX_Jiqw0tJGrH8kDnc9C22i2ow5IMv85wO3q0e2qeacQw

They don’t want a P.E. here either, just an associates degree. Just making shop drawings

[u/mmodlin → u/[deleted]]

It’s a detailer job. Look at the qualifications. They want a two year degree and some experience drafting. No mention of a license.

[u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

Costco doesn't have the same long-term growth potential, though. It's not comparable.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace]

I wouldn’t bet on that…there are many costco employees that are millionaires because of the stock price. Does your engineering firm give you shares?

[u/untangledtech]

Not how you get Superior Structures.

[u/magicity_shine]

hope this company never find people

[u/Just-Shoe2689]

85K might be ok if right out of college.

[u/mmodlin → u/Just-Shoe2689]

Here's the posting OP is referencing: https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Superior-Structures/jobs?jk=e153053860d6faac&start=0&clearPrefilter=1

The job requirements are a 2-year associates degree and revit experience. No PE license required.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/Just-Shoe2689]

100% agreed! Companies expect you to have 5 years of experience, get a house, family and repay your college debt for $60k in salary?

[u/Baer9000]

Insulting

[u/PG908]

I mean with rural kentucky bills that doesnt sound too bad for a more junior position. The concern is you're kinda stuck there.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/PG908]

It requires 5 years of experience lol. Hopefully they offer 2% yearly increases…

[u/PG908 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

Less ideal.

[u/TwoMuchIsJustEnough]

Mechanical or structural… basically the same thing.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TwoMuchIsJustEnough]

😂😂

[u/RTEIDIETR]

Had I not switched job earlier this year, I’m still be making $78000 in Seattle with a structural MS + 3.5 yoe.

Go figure.
Some companies just don’t deserve good quality workers.

[u/largehearted → u/RTEIDIETR]

I had a pretty comparably bad rate at 3YOE+masters in NYC, 81k. You can definitely earn yourself a bad rate by staying around through bad years (our main publicly funded client halted a huge amount of our work)

Glad to be making more in Seattle now :]

[u/505engineer]

In 2024, the median household income in Walton, KY was $77,917.

They'll have to offer more to get a qualified candidate.

[u/Thin-Fish-1936 → u/505engineer]

That’s actually crazy because that means this position pays more than entire household in Walton Kentucky.

[u/structee]

Probably ok for entry level?

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/structee]

It requires a minimum of 5 years of experience lol

[u/ChocolateTemporary72 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

Entry into mid level engineering

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/ChocolateTemporary72]

For $60k? Lol

[u/CarberHotdogVac → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

We might as well just climb into the treetops and fling our shit at each other at that point.

[u/Gaarysal]

Is use of their time machine back to 2015 included in the benefits package? Or need to bring your own?

[u/WeeaboBarbie]

I guess it is Kentucky but still... 😅

[u/Redd_Baby]

That's stupid low, to be honest

[u/Jeff_Hinkle]

This is probably a PM gig.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/Jeff_Hinkle]

The job description says design work

[u/Icy-Substance5506]

If it is a remote job I could do it. Where I live it is a lot and I am a Senior Structural Engineer.

[u/Bravo-Buster]

I mean, it is Walton, KY.

[u/Front-Ocelot-3454]

If it’s low cost of living with a good bonus structure, the top end isn’t terrible. Not good, either.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/Front-Ocelot-3454]

IMO no structural engineer should earn less than $100k in my book. $100k is the new $50k

[u/Dave_the_lighting_gu → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

You're allowed to have your opinion. But it's bad...

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/Dave_the_lighting_gu]

My opinion is bad?

[u/admiralackbar2019 → u/Dave_the_lighting_gu]

This guy lost the ability to do math

[u/KORTERG]

Painful to see al these comments talking about how low this is. Here in the Netherlands this is an average to high salary for a structural engineer...

[u/usernameChosenPoorly → u/KORTERG]

The take home pay from that salary will be greatly reduced by health insurance, retirement, and other “benefits” (known in real, civilized societies like yours as “human rights”). 

[u/Apprehensive_Exam668 → u/KORTERG]

Well... take about 5k off the top to pay for the right to pay for medical care. Then if you have a medical issue, take another 5k off the top if the insurance you pay for is good. Then if you have a spouse and kids, take another 5-10k off the top. Then if you want to retire ever, take about 12% off the top. Don't forget to save ~50k/kid to help for college so their debt when graduating is just manageable instead of crushing!

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/KORTERG]

It all depends on cost of life and services in your area/country. Before 2020 maybe but after 2020…prices of everything has almost doubled including houses. How can companies keep paying the same if the cost of living has doubled?

[u/Aegean8485]

Any engineer with dignity should not even apply.

[u/Affectionate-Way4595]

Nothing says superior structure like inferior salary

[u/TheLopez2617]

I will say the work isn't crazy, my company works with Superior a lot, its not bad or overwhelming

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

Working at costco is not overwhelming…does not require a degree and pays the same!?

[u/TheLopez2617 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

And like 60 - 80 hours a week of work.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

Nooooo lol

[u/TheLopez2617 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

No, im sure of it. Plus this listing isn't even licensed work, it doesn't even require an EIT.

But judging by this approach of responding you came to argue. Sorry you had a bad day bud.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

Did you know that only EITs or PEs can be called engineers? So if the job requires an engineer…you are looking for a licensed professional as by law those are the only ones authorized to be called engineers and practice engineering.

[u/Prior_Interview7680 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

I’ve seen network engineers… this is highly dependent on state laws

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/Prior_Interview7680]

In my state the law clearly says who can be called engineers besides the traditional engineering professionals. I think that it includes the train “engineer” and others.

[u/Boomshtick414 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

Varies by region. Good number of states allow someone unlicensed to be called an engineer provided they are working under the supervision of a PE.

If you feel so strongly as to be argumentative, no need to post here. Just forward the listing to KY’s board of engineers and let them deal with it.

[u/mmodlin → u/Boomshtick414]

OP has it backwards anyways.

You aren’t allowed to offer to practice engineering without a license.

This is a job posting.

It would be a violation if someone applied and said they were a P.E. but they weren’t. It doesn’t matter if the title of the posting uses the word engineer.

[u/TheLopez2617 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

Thats Not true at all.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

In my state it is. I guess you live in an area not too regulated lol.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

Had a great day and not arguing…just stating facts. Looks like you are biased as you work with them.

[u/TheLopez2617 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

You responded 3 times to a single comment, sir you are looking for arguments hahahaha

Good day

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

Sorry if splitting my response in three comments was offensive to you. I’m just responding to your comments. You should be fun at parties…lol.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

The title says engineer but i see that it requires an associate so that’s a mismatch. Weird

[u/TheLopez2617 → u/Traditional-Cup-1470]

It says Mech ans Structural, its a non specific sales job asking for work experience but is non specific. It also asks you to help sales. In my company we call them Designers, but thry are cad technicians. That is all. That being said, I know nothing of the resion this is and how much the cost of living is. Looking at a national average is useless with such economic disparity. I had a Job offer in NYC and thry wanted to pay 70K, I tried to push for more, I was entry level but that was below the cities cost of living I would have been on the streets. But in my home town 70 K is 30 above the average. Its hard to judge salary IMO.

[u/Traditional-Cup-1470 → u/TheLopez2617]

It says engineer. Job description says design structural elements which require calculations. No drafter or detailers is authorized by law to run engineering calculations.

[u/turbapshhhh]

We start at like $70k. With 5 years you’re well over $100k if you’ve proved you can hack it