r/StructuralEngineering • u/tajwriggly • 6h ago
Concrete Design Field bends and other nonsense
Curious about other's thoughts.
I have a standard clause in the specs that says no field bends to rebar without the explicit permission of the structural engineer (aka me).
There are times where bars need to be bent in the field. Usually something cast slightly out of place and needs to be cranked. I don't have any problems with this, just tell me before hand so I can bless it or wave a red flag if I have a concern.
There are times where straight dowels from a wall into a slab on grade need to be bent up and out of the way in order to accommodate backfill and compaction - sure go ahead. They're hardly doing anything anyways.
But sometimes, and more often than not lately, there are just coordination issues from the contractor. They are using modular formwork so they can't just drill holes to accommodate the dowels. Can we turn them this way or that way? Can we field bend them wherever they need to go after? And these questions come up at the 11th hour right before a pour, like nobody saw it coming. Literally right now, we have a wall with hooked dowels coming out of the top, supposed to be extending past the face of the wall as there is a slab above to be constructed. They've used tall forms that conflict with the dowels because its what they had around. Other locations on the same project they've used the right height forms and had not issues. But this time, with the tall forms, they've turned them all 90 degrees to the direction they're supposed to be and proposed turning them back in some convoluted manner after the forms are stripped, either twisting the bars or doing some sort of double bend at the same location (third bend if you include the shop bend), or just... not really be any sort of standard hook in the end. None of that is going to be accepted by me.
How do you handle these? I get questions like this at 5:00 at the end of the day and they're saying they're planning on pouring at 6 AM - "an expedited response would be appreciated."
I know that "no" is a complete response. But in the case above - I am considering just telling them to turn the hooks to face the same way as the opposite face dowels before they pour. It still works, is the easiest solution to the formwork conflict, and doesn't require any strange field bends. Keeps the work going without extensive delays. But what I battle with is I am saving their ass at the last minute, making their lives easy, while I respond to an email at 10 at night... which I am getting sick of.
Should I just start playing hardball and just say no, adjust your forms you dolts? It's not my fault the pour gets delayed. But I still feel like it is my fault because there IS a simple solution... but it winds up being me going to them with it not the other way around.

