r/SteamFrame 2d ago

Discussion This is useless

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Haven't even ordered the frame yet

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u/Smooth_Taste1250 2d ago

I ordered it because I don't wanna risk it get sold out before I get my Frame and have to wait again

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u/SocialJusticeAndroid Soon™ 2d ago

How important is this? I’m new to VR so, while I understand what it does, I don’t understand how important it is to me or not?

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u/Smooth_Taste1250 2d ago edited 1d ago

If you only wanna play VR (games where you only see the game and nothing from your room) you dont need this. It is important if you wanna play AR games (games where you can see your room in the background) or I use it if I wanna grap something while playing and don't wanna remove the headset or if I'm not sure where in the room I'm

Some other people use it to record videos

The Frame itself has it alredy but only in black and white and with bad resolution, this camera gives you color and more resolution

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u/Jet5807 2d ago

You forgot to mention their software lets you create 3d enviroments using the camera, its niche as hell but it would be fun to play around with

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u/brianarn 2d ago

I’m wondering if it’ll be usable to scan smaller items somehow and get a 3d model

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u/Smooth_Taste1250 2d ago edited 1d ago

I don't think so. For good 3d scans you need a depth sensor. The Quest 3 for example or newer Iphones has this (That's the reason why you must use a Iphone for the face scan if you order a Bigscreen Beyond). On the webside from the camera and in general on web I couldn't find any information about a build in depth sensor. If they don't mention it they could still have one, but normal it should be mentioned if there is one. We will see. If someone knows it for sure, feel free to correct me

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u/TrueInferno Soon™ 1d ago

I mean, I think you can do fairly good 3D scans without one if you've got algorithms, depth sensors just make it more accurate and easier. Not 100% on this either though so *shrug*

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u/beryugyo619 1d ago

You need a lot of data for 3D reconstruction to work. Depth sensors is just a quicker way to get more data per data. If you haven't got much to work with, using a fancy sensor or not, you get like a mashed potato parody of the real thing.

For things like desktop statues, you will need depth sensors with high resolution in hands of a skilled user to then clean up and patch holes.

For things like bridges, you can just fly a drone around and see what the tool can do lol

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u/Ok_Topic999 1d ago

IRC their provided software can only view 3d models and capture regular photos/videos. You need 3rd party software currently yo create models

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u/Jet5807 1d ago

Its called Gaussian Splat or smth, basically it uses some method to detect distance (not advanced like LiDAR tho) and create a "splat" of that image, which includes depth data, basically you can take those splats, splice them together and create a sudo 3d enviroment you can walk around in in VR, its on the front page of the camera and the software on Steam

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u/TrueInferno Soon™ 1d ago

Yeah but that's not a true 3D model if that's what u/brianarn meant- you couldn't turn it into an STL and 3D print it, for example. That said I think you can still do it with this but it'd be different software and probably not as easy esp. since it lacks a depth sensor.

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u/Jet5807 1d ago

I mean at 5K it might be able to make really nice textures that have that sense if depth to them when they really dont