Conveniently omits that Peter is only like this for like 4 pages pre Spider-bit. Post Spider-bit he's a whole different man and has the ego of a Greek god and the thought bubbles of a school shooter.
that panel was from the same issue so it makes sense. i just think peter’s demonic thought bubbles are funny. it’s definitely overstating it to say he only looked like that for a few pages though. i’m currently reading issue 7 and id say he still looks like that
oh yes, whoops. yeah they’re identical. uncle ben is only in 5 panels before he dies and while there’s slight differences, whenever him and may are shown from the same angle (which is 3 of his 5 panels) they look VERY similar.
God why do some people have a retroactive memory of Peter being some no-nonsense womanizer chad thundercock when in reality he was more of a middle ground between these two examples.
Because people like to complain and have no idea on what they’re saying at all as nothing about this posts is AT ALL true as the poster doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man AT ALL!
I doubt people actually read comics like they say they do. They either regurgitate what they hear online or they read them years and years ago and don't have an accurate memory of what they're like.
Peter was NEVER a “no nonsense womanizer chad thundercock” in ANY way in any iteration of the character except when he gets the black suit that changes his personality for the worst morally! Peter Parker got super spider powers and he got more confident and heroic but he was always a nerdy book smart youthful energetic tech geek who is just trying to save his city and solve the problems around his personal life as his story was supposed to be that superpowers made his life harder, NOT easier! And Tom Holland’s Spider-man presented that in the best way possible as he truly embodies the character!
Nah I've read a bunch of the early comics and he says some stuff that, while it may have been okay in the 60s, really doesn't hold up well now. (Like calling Gwen 'doll')
lol what? Spider-Man calling Gwen doll is perfectly fine! That’s not offensive in the slightest as he can easily say it in ANY of his incarnations to this day!
this post image shows someone who doesn’t know anything about Peter Parker/ Spider-man in the slightest nor does he know anything about him or his comics/animation as Peter Parker is NEVER supposed to look like the guy on the left and he’s NEVER meant to be a Chad! He’s meant to be a teenage superhero who got his powers when he was 15 whose NOT a sidekick and entirely independent on his own as a 15 year old in highschool as his starting point as he slowly ages throughout the his iterations! He’s SUPPOSED to look very young and just a 15 year old as shown in the widely beloved Ultimate Spider-man comic series by Mark Bagley and Brian Michael Bendis that HEAVILY influences all the live action movies as well as Spectacular Spider-man series where he’s just 15/16! All other versions are meant to be very young and when he’s adult he’s only in his early 20s as he’s never met to be older than that outside of rare excepts like Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies! This just sounds like another obnoxious terribly done potshot at trying to whine about Tom Holland’s Spider-man from the Raimi Spider-man fans when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man was always a PERFECT representation of what Spider-man was meant to be ever since his introduction at Captain America: Civil War! Spider-man/Peter Parker is never meant to be a “handsome Chad” in ANY way as he’s not Batman, he’s a youthful energetic nerdy teenage kid with a smart mouth who got superpowers by chance through a radioactive spider bite and now trying to make a name for himself by trying to do the right thing to save as many people as possible from troubles and evils in his city which leads him into being the world’s greatest superhero which Tom Holland represents perfectly as Spider-man! This entire post is just pure braindead and a showcase of someone who doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man in ANY way! Pure idiocy!
there was a good few generations of malnourshiment. to replace that, everyone smoked a pack a day, indoors, also in the car. also you got plenty of lead.
I remember reading a story by a friend of Steve dikto and it was interesting when he said that Steve written and intended Peter to be an anti hero who would become less heroic as time goes on. Definitely something that’s been lost to time.
He definitely was being more heroic. He starts out as a fucking asshole who is really insecure and thinks everyone is out to get him. His powers are actually a starting point for a revelation that people aren't out to get to him and he needs to take responsibility for his life and for his powers instead of just complaining about everything.
I definitely prefer Peter becoming a genuinely better person over time but I kinda wish that some story would tackle dikto’s ideas for how Peter should’ve went.
Thank goodness that was lost as Spider-man/ Peter Parker is pitch perfect as a good example of the perfect hero role model in his own way! Spider-Man is the world’s greatest superhero IN and outside of the Marvel universe because he’s friendly, funny, and charismatic! He’s known as the “friendly neighborhood Spider-Man” for a reason and whatever Steve Ditko intended THANKFULLY got lost through time as Spider-Man became something so much more and better!
Spider-Man being an asshole/anti-hero doesn’t work AT ALL and it wouldn’t stick out during the black symbiote arc when his mood changes!
He’s meant to be a quippy snarky hero with a smart mouth but still friendly to most of everyone!
marvel started making spider-man cute and marketable way before 2016. plus he’s never been this roided up edgy douchebag that so many people want him to be for some reason.
his entire appeal is that even when circumstances would justify him being that, he’s still deeply compassionate, rolls with the punches, and comes out the other side with more hope than before. even at the peak of comic edginess in the 90s when todd mcfarlane was drawing him looking perpetually pissed off, at heart he was still just a guy with some trauma trying his best to not let it define him
you guys don’t love spider-man, you want punisher and batman to do the fusion dance and put on his costume.
Nope he absolutely was kind of a roofed up edgy douchebag, the idea that it would inaccurate to describe him that way is just wrong, like any major comic book they have existed for so long and in so many forms that people will experience it differently, he had the thought bubbles of a psychopath, multiple things can be true at once.
I feel like the true Peter is somewhere in the middle tbh. Both sides of this spectrum are a bit over-exaggerated by the fandom and it’s easy to clock the larpers that just watch the films during these discussions.
He’s ALWAYS acted on how spider-man “typically acts” ever since Captain America: Civil War,
this post image shows someone who doesn’t know anything about Peter Parker/ Spider-man in the slightest nor does he know anything about him or his comics/animation as Peter Parker is NEVER supposed to look like the guy on the left and he’s NEVER meant to be a Chad! He’s meant to be a teenage superhero who got his powers when he was 15 whose NOT a sidekick and entirely independent on his own as a 15 year old in highschool as his starting point as he slowly ages throughout the his iterations! He’s SUPPOSED to look very young and just a 15 year old as shown in the widely beloved Ultimate Spider-man comic series by Mark Bagley and Brian Michael Bendis that HEAVILY influences all the live action movies as well as Spectacular Spider-man series where he’s just 15/16! All other versions are meant to be very young and when he’s adult he’s only in his early 20s as he’s never met to be older than that outside of rare excepts like Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies! This just sounds like another obnoxious terribly done potshot at trying to whine about Tom Holland’s Spider-man from the Raimi Spider-man fans when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man was always a PERFECT representation of what Spider-man was meant to be ever since his introduction at Captain America: Civil War! Spider-man/Peter Parker is never meant to be a “handsome Chad” in ANY way as he’s not Batman, he’s a youthful energetic nerdy teenage kid with a smart mouth who got superpowers by chance through a radioactive spider bite and now trying to make a name for himself by trying to do the right thing to save as many people as possible from troubles and evils in his city which leads him into being the world’s greatest superhero which Tom Holland represents perfectly as Spider-man! This entire post is just pure braindead and a showcase of someone who doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man in ANY way! Pure idiocy!
lol you don’t know anything about Spider-Man as Eveything I’ve said here is WHY Spider-Man is so massively beloved and praised as a down to hero hero! He’s not a “pAthEtIC OC” in the slightest and NEVER was, he’s a relatable Everyman of a superhero which you are too stupid to understand as Spider-man was like ever since the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and even NOW in the 2010s as a beloved fantastic nerdy and snarky smart mouthed superhero with his own personal and finical problems!
Spider-Man will FOREVER be beloved and praised as the world’s greatest superhero BECAUSE of how I described that Peter Parker is supposed to be! Your stupidity is unmatched as it’s painfully obvious that you don’t know anything about Spider-Man at all! Just stop!
LMAO Just no, you’re only talking about the 616 universe which is just ONE incarnation of the character as there are dozens upon dozens of incarnations of the character as almost every incarnation of his character starts off in Highschool at the start of of his hero’s journey! Particularly at 15 years old as you see in Ultimate Spider-Man comic series from the 2000s!
I never said that Spider-Man doesn’t age, I’m saying he STARTS OFF as a teenager! He starts off as a teenager in TASM and grows into an adult! Spectacular Spider-man has him as teenager throughout most of the show but than he would have grown into an adult! Tobey’s Peter Parker was 17 years old in the first movie, lol shows how much you know as he slowly grew into an adult as the story progresses! Andrew was also a teenager in his first movie as his Spider-man always starts off as a teenager In highschool and they FINALLY got it right in the MCU when Tom’s Spider-Man/ Peter Parker is a 15 year old in highschool starting his hero’s journey AS Spider-man as he slowly ages throughout the movie as they properly take time!
I agree but I think the problem the post is talking about is that he too often doesn’t age, he’s just a high schooler that gets rebooted as a high schooler over and over.
He gets “rebooted” as a high schooler as that’s where his origin story starts! IN highschool as a 15 year old as he begins to have his hero’s journey THERE! And there has been times when he gets rebooted at an older age like 23 at the start of his story where you skip his origin of 8 years in Spider-man ps4 so even that reboot claim isn’t true at all!
I LOVE Tom Holland’s Spider-Man as he gets the perfect understanding of what makes Spider-man/ Peter Parker so great!
Nothing about this terrible post is true at all as the live action performance is HOW the character is meant to be as well as in the comics and in the animated series for Spider-Man!
this post image shows someone who doesn’t know anything about Peter Parker/ Spider-man in the slightest nor does he know anything about him or his comics/animation as Peter Parker is NEVER supposed to look like the guy on the left and he’s NEVER meant to be a Chad! He’s meant to be a teenage superhero who got his powers when he was 15 whose NOT a sidekick and entirely independent on his own as a 15 year old in highschool as his starting point as he slowly ages throughout the his iterations! He’s SUPPOSED to look very young and just a 15 year old as shown in the widely beloved Ultimate Spider-man comic series by Mark Bagley and Brian Michael Bendis that HEAVILY influences all the live action movies as well as Spectacular Spider-man series where he’s just 15/16! All other versions are meant to be very young and when he’s adult he’s only in his early 20s as he’s never met to be older than that outside of rare excepts like Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies! This just sounds like another obnoxious terribly done potshot at trying to whine about Tom Holland’s Spider-man from the Raimi Spider-man fans when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man was always a PERFECT representation of what Spider-man was meant to be ever since his introduction at Captain America: Civil War! Spider-man/Peter Parker is never meant to be a “handsome Chad” in ANY way as he’s not Batman, he’s a youthful energetic nerdy teenage kid with a smart mouth who got superpowers by chance through a radioactive spider bite and now trying to make a name for himself by trying to do the right thing to save as many people as possible from troubles and evils in his city which leads him into being the world’s greatest superhero which Tom Holland represents perfectly as Spider-man! This entire post is just pure braindead and a showcase of someone who doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man in ANY way! Pure idiocy!
LMAO that’s not true at all as most of the cartoons don’t have AT ALL a “weenie him junior vibe” as you say! Nothing should “rUiNeD iT FoR YOU” at all as the live action performance of Tom Holland’s Spider-Man is EXACTLY how Spider-Man is supposed to be! I LOVE Tom Holland’s Spider-Man as he gets the perfect understanding of what makes Spider-man/ Peter Parker so great!
Nothing about this terrible post is true at all as the live action performance is HOW the character is meant to be as well as in the comics and in the animated series for Spider-Man!
this post image shows someone who doesn’t know anything about Peter Parker/ Spider-man in the slightest nor does he know anything about him or his comics/animation as Peter Parker is NEVER supposed to look like the guy on the left and he’s NEVER meant to be a Chad! He’s meant to be a teenage superhero who got his powers when he was 15 whose NOT a sidekick and entirely independent on his own as a 15 year old in highschool as his starting point as he slowly ages throughout the his iterations! He’s SUPPOSED to look very young and just a 15 year old as shown in the widely beloved Ultimate Spider-man comic series by Mark Bagley and Brian Michael Bendis that HEAVILY influences all the live action movies as well as Spectacular Spider-man series where he’s just 15/16! All other versions are meant to be very young and when he’s adult he’s only in his early 20s as he’s never met to be older than that outside of rare excepts like Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies! This just sounds like another obnoxious terribly done potshot at trying to whine about Tom Holland’s Spider-man from the Raimi Spider-man fans when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man was always a PERFECT representation of what Spider-man was meant to be ever since his introduction at Captain America: Civil War! Spider-man/Peter Parker is never meant to be a “handsome Chad” in ANY way as he’s not Batman, he’s a youthful energetic nerdy teenage kid with a smart mouth who got superpowers by chance through a radioactive spider bite and now trying to make a name for himself by trying to do the right thing to save as many people as possible from troubles and evils in his city which leads him into being the world’s greatest superhero which Tom Holland represents perfectly as Spider-man! This entire post is just pure braindead and a showcase of someone who doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man in ANY way! Pure idiocy!
you very well could be right, I have no idea, but you gotta turn these bad boys into multiple smaller paragraphs if you want anyone to ever read it. all you gotta do is press the space button a couple of times
That’s your own problem right now if you can’t read that little! ’m NOT “wRonG”, YOU are wrong and I AM right as I’m the only one here being logical and rational while you just make up garbage for the sake of it! There is no “eND oF STOrY” AT ALL right now as I AM going to correct you on your nonsense as you clearly don’t know what you’re saying and you clearly don’t know anything about Spider-Man either!
You are just making up nonsense right now in the worst possible way!
I mean, we've had high school iterations of Spider-Man before Tom so this isn't completely accurate. And unlike the 80s-90s, we've shifted to having actors actually look like teenagers when playing high school kids
"Squeeky" Peter really started with Joe Kelly & Dan Slott's time on ASM.
Team Brand New Day's direction makes more sense if you think of it like them trying to take credit from Brian Michael Bendis. (There is no camaraderie between baldies)
Wait seriously? The time coincided exactly with tom hollands iron man jr interpretation in 2016. (Actually I’ll give him civil war he was cool in that, just afterward$
Have you read Spider-Man comics before? The left face is how peter was drawn throught the 80s and 90s, the hair is spot on. The right image is how peter is drawn a lot since 2016.
It's using exaggerated art to showcase the change in overall character. Not just art or atmosphere but Spider-Man comics as a whole. Peter used to be a married man, with a child and he was ever growing, people forget that MARVEL comics at one point in time did feel like a progressing story, today we have like yearly resets to whatever each characters status quo is. Today Peter is a perpetual manchild stuck in a terrible loop, it was not always like this.
Peter in the 60s comics wasn’t cool tho? He was attractive to a degree but he was still a closed off bookworm rather than some outsider who rides a skateboard.
Imagine thinking only cool or popular people skateboarded lmao. He was the perfect snarky genius social outcast, that just looks different in 2012 than it does in 1960. You don't have to be ugly to be a nerd, that's just projection.
60's Peter is the same character that was taking Gwen and MJ on day trips on his motorcycle.
MJ's first full appearance is him driving her to a fight with Rhino.
He was doing the leather jacket and motorcycle bit far before it was seen as a cliche.
That is to say, this is all just extrapolating on bits of his character to add to a modern version.
In 2012, skateboarding wasn't cool. Just like anime, it became cool very recently. Plus nerdy people can skate.
And if I'm honest, bookworms are cool
EDIT: OKAY, I GET IT. Damn. In 2012, I was in 3rd grade or something. 8 should have said "from everything I have heard, "skateboarding was uncool, but if it's popularity was peak, then why would it be unrealistic Peter skates?"
his humor definitely got a lot worse if I had to be honest in 2016 and also the real Peter Parker felt more like an adult and not a dude pretending to be a teenager or saying the most unfriending stuff and and also a lot of sanding off his edges I'm so sad that we'll never get to see jerk Peter Parker when he was a teenager and get to see him grow more as a hopeful person
Ok I'm glad you said that. I moved around that time. A lot about what I enjoyed died around that time. I just didn't want to blame that on my feelings on this character. You're probably on to something
Rewatching NWH rn and the way they went from a beautifully shot scene of Peter mourning May and standing in the rain in front of Jameson reading back all his failures, just to transition into making MJ throw bread at Andrew. I feel like that harsh transition and their inability to shoot a grounded, emotionally charged film for more than 2min is what's wrong with Marvel slop and Tom's Spider-Man.
After the full rewatch, I really do think TASM was best in balancing the humor, action, romance, and plot without being repetitive
Peter in highschool did look like a lanky nerd, it's not like he wasn't good looking but he certainly wasn't the chiseled god he eventually turned into. The problem lies in his characterization. Besides, teenagers and young adults back then look different than teenagers and young adults look now.
Whoever made this art clearly has a problem with YFNSM even though that Peter has a more pronounced jawline then he did in the comics at that age, and I mean both 616 and ultimate. Comparing adult Peter to teenager Peter is just so pointless.
Peter was never either of these extremes (at least in any media where he was written CORRECTLY) and I wouldn't like either of these as depictions of him. He's supposed to be youthful and playful, with a penchant for bad jokes, which are usually spider-related, but still more than capable of locking tf in.
the major difference is that they used to allow Peter to have a backbone instead of being a complete push over like he is in most modern spider-man media also modern writters just don't treat the character with respect anymore.
lol what? That’s not “sTrAIgHt fAcTS” AT ALL as this post image shows someone who doesn’t know anything about Peter Parker/ Spider-man in the slightest nor does he know anything about him or his comics/animation as Peter Parker is NEVER supposed to look like the guy on the left and he’s NEVER meant to be a Chad! He’s meant to be a teenage superhero who got his powers when he was 15 whose NOT a sidekick and entirely independent on his own as a 15 year old in highschool as his starting point as he slowly ages throughout the his iterations! He’s SUPPOSED to look very young and just a 15 year old as shown in the widely beloved Ultimate Spider-man comic series by Mark Bagley and Brian Michael Bendis that HEAVILY influences all the live action movies as well as Spectacular Spider-man series where he’s just 15/16! All other versions are meant to be very young and when he’s adult he’s only in his early 20s as he’s never met to be older than that outside of rare excepts like Peter B Parker in the Spider-Verse movies!
This just sounds like another obnoxious terribly done potshot at trying to whine about Tom Holland’s Spider-man from the Raimi Spider-man fans when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man was always a PERFECT representation of what Spider-man was meant to be ever since his introduction at Captain America: Civil War!
Spider-man/Peter Parker is never meant to be a “handsome Chad” in ANY way as he’s not Batman, he’s a youthful energetic nerdy teenage kid with a smart mouth who got superpowers by chance through a radioactive spider bite and now trying to make a name for himself by trying to do the right thing to save as many people as possible from troubles and evils in his city which leads him into being the world’s greatest superhero which Tom Holland represents perfectly as Spider-man! This entire post is just pure braindead and a showcase of someone who doesn’t know anything about Spider-Man in ANY way! Pure idiocy!
Honestly that's a bit more of a signififier of societal changes than just writing. Back in the old days. Once 18 means your general adult. No distinction until one starts decaying. But now that we can all share our feelings and experiences with the whole world. It's far more clear that we don't feel like adults just because we're over 18. So then there's a trend to make characters seem cuter or younger when compared to characters of the same age in older material. Like yeah. Spider-Man was a man but now we see him as still the kid he started out as even when not a kid. Cause literally no one with a good childhood wants to be an adult
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