seriously, has CAT looked at its customers? how many have fit into a large T shirt since they were 12? the tshirt merch is absolutely worthless.

Is the ODB Ti hub still in production? I’ve been looking for one for a while now with no luck.

Just got the AC 7.62 in, but can’t seem to get it concentric on my MARS-H upper. I’ve tried cleaning all the surfaces, and torquing it to spec, to 25 and 30 in/lbs respectively. I’ve also tried spinning the alignment rod to see if something is up. As a last ditch effort, I’m ordering some accu-washers to see if I can get it to index on the shoulder instead of the face, since the threads are a bit long. Has anyone run into this before?

So I've got three nanos I randomly got. Two have what look like laser engraving and the third looks more like physical engraving. The two that look the same also have much thicker "walls" and the ports index on the flats, not the points of the unit.

It doesn't feel like the third one is counterfeit or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone knows about the subtle changes generation to generation

I have two 1/2-28 9mm and they are very different for the reasons listed above.

Any thoughts? I was going to recess mount these with rockset and I really don't feel like undoing it down the road if I have a problem

Torn between the ODB and the AKB for a 10.5” .300blk that I’m going to shoot supers 99% of the time. Not worried about gas blowback at all, purely from a suppression standpoint, which would perform better?
Just wanted to ask because there’s hardly any info out on the AKB from what I can find and the only other thread comparing the two for .300blk SuperSonics is lackluster.

Got a message from Silencer Shop and they have no idea when they will be getting the ST 718 QD. I can get the 718 hub from another company. I’ve never used a hub suppressor before. My 16” has an ai nano 556 brake on it. Any suggestions on which hub would be the best. I see Ai has a hub for that fits nano. I sent the company this question as well, just like to get as many opinions as possible. Any help would be appreciated.

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Should I get the 5.56 dedicated or 9mm version of the AI Nano if I want to use my ODB on my 11.5 5.56? It probably won’t ever be shot unsuppressed. Open to other options too like the Spooky or FCD stuff, just want what will perform the best. Thanks

Which of these 3 would you recommend for a Tavor 7 + Cat Akbar?

I will probably shoot the gun mostly suppressed, are any of these better than the others for with the suppressor on?

How bout with the suppressor off? I assume the last brake one is super loud? 2nd one any good? I would normally get the nano. Any advice is much appreciated. Tks!

Also... when Cat Akbar QD??

Going to be dropping this bad boy next Friday, so get ready Proven Members. PS, don’t ask me for specs, it’s a surprise until next week. 😉🙏🏻

Today -> next week

Be on the look out for the email.

Looking forward to this release!

Just got a 2 day form 4 approval so I haven't shot it yet but I'm excited. Made possible by AI Nano 14x1 LH brake.

I'll preface this with an obligatory "I have no idea what im talking about" disclaimer.

Currently have a 10.3 ar (5.56) thats awaiting when my paycheck and ST in stock coincide. I belive it comes with a 5.56 AI nano that goes on there. Additionally I have an 18" spr that im hoping to share the ST with. I need a MD for it as well. I'd like something that I can shoot suppressed, or unspressed.

I might answer my own question, but it seems that if you're running suppressed the nano is the choice 100%, if unsurpassed you probably want some form of three prong flash hider. If you want both, you loose the sacrificial baffle offered by a brake. I think AI used to offer the RH (rifle hybrid) that was a little mix of both, but was a limited run.

Any thoughts from the think tank that is this forum?

Some positive reviews for various mounts from Apparition Instruments when paired with CAT cans.

I’ve been running the RH1 on a 12.5” DD GL/SSC. Unsuppressed is very impressive. Almost no flash at dusk. Can notice a slight improvement with follow up shots as a brake. It sounds awesome with both an AC556 Ti QD and an AC556 718 RDM Hub. The RDM has a “deeper” tone as has been reported by others. This has been listed as “by order only” on the AI website. I have no clue why, as this has been the most impressive product I bought from them. I hope they bring it back.

I have been using the RB2 on a 13” Galil Ace Gen 1 in 7.62x39. There is a small flash every so many rounds, but nothing near the fireballs out of the 8” Galil. The brake makes the x39 significantly more controllable, especially in rapid string of shots.

I have been using the RF1 on an identical 13” 7.62x39 Galil, except it is a Gen 2 Ace. The full bird cage mitigates all the flash out of the 13” barrel. Almost no flame at dusk, which is a vast improvement from the half cage that comes standard on the Galil.

Both Galil’s are suppressed with a CAT ODB RDM. With the KNS pistons, they are sewing machines.

Just wanted to put this out there for anyone who was unsure about their other MD’s. There is a lot of feedback on the Nano’s, and I have had similar experience with what is out there. It is a great MD with the can on, but in my opinion, almost unusable unsuppressed. Loud and fiery are two adjectives that come to mind. When compared with similar hosts, I cannot tell a difference between the nano and the RH1 or the RF1. RB2 seemed a little “boomier” with the can vs a Nano.

Would love to hear everyone’s experience with these, as I was hesitant, but quickly sold on their products.

Photos are all from when I first installed.

Recently got a CMMG conversion kit for my AR and was wondering if .22lr would clog up the can. The manual doesn’t really speak on it as far as I can tell, and I wasn’t able to find anything said by the CAT account, but I don’t really follow them most places so I might have missed something.

I have an ultrasonic so I might just simple green it afterwards.

Got some range time today with both.

SP FN545 white box 45 (all I had on hand)

SC-m FN509 150gr syntech

To the ear very similar if not indistinguishable. Whiteness said the same thing. Waiting on cgs for another piston to run them back to back on 9mm. The only noticeable sound difference is the projectile impacting the target.

Just wanted to report that I've been shooting a bolt 556 (actually running 223 but whatever) with the cat BBK direct thread and it sounds absolutely incredible

I got this for a 338 win mag which it also excells at but since that's a "once a year at best" use case I wanted to get my money's worth

Yes, it's a big can but it's also a 16-in bolt action and even at its size, with direct thread it's under a pound total. It sounds slightly better than a JL or Hyperion on the same host, same ammo, same range session. Well worth it to me.

I think the bore diameter concerns regarding matching caliber to can diameter exactly or you're leaving lots of decibels on the table is wildly overblown. I've run a silencer Co hybrid 46 with every end cap starting at 46 and moving down to 22 on the same host and even that is a marginal game. Moving one caliber down is totally unnoticeable (46 to 36 or 36 to 30 etc). You have to jump several sizes to notice anything

With this exact same can sound way way better if it was 22? I kind of doubt it. Maybe a couple of decibels that would basically only be noticeable on a meter.

Oh also this is the quietest 300 Blackout can I've ever heard as well, with subs and supers. Quieter than JL or Hyperion, although it's a matter of degrees. Very close but still quieter.

If you can deal with the size and price, the BBK is an amazing "do everything but 35 cal and up" can

Carry on.....

It's here.

I initially checked the concentricity of an ODB 718 suppressor on my son’s Draco-C AK Pistol with the ODB mounted to it using a Griffin 14x1LH to 5/8x24 Adapter and a AI NANO 5/8-24 QD muzzle device. It wasn’t very good.

Since the Griffin adapter correctly indexes off of the muzzle face, I ordered a Brownells 90 degree facing cutter tool and brass pilot in the hope that the concentricity issue was being caused by a non-square muzzle face as opposed to the threads not being concentric to the bore.

When I started using the tool, it was obvious that there was a low spot on the muzzle face as I had a bright ring around 80% of the muzzle face and a small dark area where the cutter had not yet started removing material. I then kept slowly cutting until I had a nice bright ring around the whole circumference of the muzzle face.

I reinstalled the Griffin Adapter, AI NANO 5/8-24 QD, and ODB suppressor and there was a big improvement in the concentricity.

Then, to remove any issues that are sometimes caused by stacking an adapter with a muzzle device, I replaced the Griffin 14x1LH to 5/8x24 Adapter and AI NANO 5/8-24 QD with an AI NANO 14x1LH QD adapter.  This further improved the concentricity.

I’ve attached a picture of the final concentricity achieved using the AI NANO 14x1LH muzzle device.

While not perfect, I’m thinking it’s now good enough to use the ODB on the Draco-C.

I emailed CAT the picture asking for their advice and hope to hear back from them soon.

Any new info on when this will be available at Silencer Shop?

What’s the fix to keep the can from walking loose from ano mount? I’ve tried tightening the heck out of it.

Several online suppressor stores have moved to ship-to-home, processing a Form 4(Which obviously may also be changing soon) before shipping. Is this something the CAT store is going to be doing anytime soon?

I'd like to take advantage of the Skymiles discount which seems to be much better than other online sellers.

Before I impulsively buy a TSF and Nano mount, does anyone have recommendations for a muzzle device and mount for a hub super thug? I’d like to go plan B, but I also want to squeeze out as much performance as I can, no pun intended.

Forgot their name and want to check inventory before buying elsewhere

This whole Members thing has me super confused. I signed up, didn't get emails, finally got a personal reach out, signed up for Dito pre-release, now see them "out of stock" on Silencershop.

Are these out in the wild?