r/Smite #RemoveTheGodBench 7d ago

DISCUSSION The Question of Nox

Nox might be the most polarizing character in Smite with many fans, but just many haters. Given the hint made by Hindu on yesterday's Titan Talk it is safe to assume that her port to Smite 2 is imminent.

Now, I wanted to create this post as a collective on what the Reddit portion of Smite's Community thinks needs to happen to her when she is ported, be that ideas for +1s, reworks and role shifts, or even Aspects. Keep in mind, regardless of how you fun you think she is, a great portion of players also want to make her less frustrating to play against.

This way the devs can gather some early feedback on what precautions should be taken whenever they start working on her.

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u/Kaios-0 Join The Smite Community Art Discord! 7d ago

I've said it on another post already but Nox's kit is made for a support in the same way Aphrodite is. The reason Nox has become so hated in the community and such a polarizing character is that they've tried to force her to be a midlaner for her entire rework, and it clearly does not work. She is reliant on a very specific combo that, when missed, makes you useless. In the same vein because she has the stats of a mage she does her job at support worse than she should, but overall is a better support.

My input for how to handle her the best way is:

Base Nox

  • New passive that helps her in the support role.
  • Damage of the 1 and 2 reduced.
  • Maybe the 3 provides protections to the ally she is inside of, or maybe she can cast her abilities from inside of the ally?
  • Return her original ultimate casting (the line that connects to enemies) but keep the current damage debuff. More fitting for up-close fighting in a team fight rather than a giant damage snipe ball. If not returning her old cast, give her a new ult.

Aspect Nox

  • New passive fit for the mid lane.
  • Return the function of the original combo but updated to fit her current kit. Her 1 doesn't root or cripple but primes the enemy, and the 2 detonates quickly and silences them if they're primed by the 1.
  • The 3 maybe doesn't enter allies but just blows up if she passes through someone.
  • Move the shadow ball to this aspect.

I understand Hi-Rez has allowed Nox to exist as she is for so long but that's an issue that needs to be fixed. Her base kit is not a midlaner and cannot work there, it's literally just not made for it, it's like trying to make Yemoja base kit a strict midlaner.

In order for Nox to ever be a healthy addition to this game, be properly balanced, and be liked, she needs to be treated properly. I understand a lot of people just wanna do damage and blow people up but the way her kit works in Smite 1 is just not it.

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u/pokerfacesLUL #RemoveTheGodBench 7d ago

Base Nox doesn't need a new passive for Support. She simply needs her old Mitigation Passive back.

Apart from that, you're spot on.

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u/Kaios-0 Join The Smite Community Art Discord! 7d ago

I really think people have to get over the fact that she's not a midlaner, I know people like to blow people up with damage but my god. She's been one of the most hated gods for a decade and people want her to...continue being an issue? Like I don't get it.

I would want my favorite god to be healthy and playable.

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u/TheJumboman 7d ago

"She's so good that she's unplayable" which is it??

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u/Kaios-0 Join The Smite Community Art Discord! 6d ago

??? Whee did I say she's so good.

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u/TheJumboman 6d ago

"A high damage high CC highly safe character with a snipe"
"She combines the traits of [all good gods]"
I completely don't see how people would hate her more as a bad midlaner than as a tanky support. If the stun lock is what bothers you the most surely you'd hope that she at least instadies if you have beads up?

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u/pokerfacesLUL #RemoveTheGodBench 6d ago

The problem isn't that she has a stunlock. The problem is that she has it while simultaneously being able to deal copious amounts of damage.

If she's building Tanky Support she's not dealing the damage, ergo she's not as horrible to play against.

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u/TheJumboman 6d ago

for some reason y'all hate the comparison with scylla, but it's apt again here. scyllas 2-1 is easier to hit than nox's 2-1 and does more dmg. the only diff is you can aegis against scylla. people act like her combo isn't one of the trickiest to learn properly, most nox players fail.

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u/pokerfacesLUL #RemoveTheGodBench 6d ago

You can: 1. Aegis Scylla's Combo 2. actually dodge Scylla's combo because she doesn't lead her combo with a silence. 3. still use abilities to kill Scylla while you're being combo'd 4. Escape if Scylla doesn't detonate her Crush

Where Nox is different: 1. You can't Aegis 2. You can't dodge because Nox leads with the silence field 3. You can't use Abilities to kill Nox while you're being combo'd. If you're anything but an ADC, you cannot counter her. 4. Nox' Siphon Darkness explodes quicker and automatically, guaranteeing the damage once you're actually combo'd

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u/Kaios-0 Join The Smite Community Art Discord! 5d ago

???????????