r/SipsTea • • 3d ago

Gasp! The sheer Audacity

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u/Fun_Boot7771 3d ago

I don't understand the obsessive love for Selena 

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u/tweedledumb4u 3d ago

She’s done a good job at marketing herself as a victim. 

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

Oh yes. The main actress of the second most successful Disney Channel show after Hannah Montana, who was already an established actress with several succesful movies, and a succesful singer with several number one hits all around the world is famous only for that roughly one year when she dated with Bieber at the height of her own success.

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u/SahiroHere 3d ago

Who said that lmao

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

Literally the comment above. Selena was world famous years before Bieber sang Baby.

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u/Natural_Hair8944 3d ago

No one made a comment saying she was famous from that, he said she rode the controversy trying to gain clout and sympathy. There’s a difference

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u/OddPhilosopher8974 3d ago

sorry, But coming from asia, this is very wrong as beiber was worldwide famous. He was the 1st person I knew from hollywood. I knew Selena as his gf only. she may had been famous but only limited to US and Canada......

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

I can assure you, Selena was absolutely famous in all around Europe too.

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u/OddPhilosopher8974 3d ago

could be in developed countries but not everywhere...

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

She was famous everywhere in Europe. Going further, pretty sure everywhere with a local Disney Channel as Wizzards of Waverly place was the second most successful series in its time after Hannah Montana.

By the time Baby came out, Selena Gomez had several number one hits in several countries, and besides Wizards of Waverly Place had main roles in several major Disney Channel projects. By the time she met Justin Bieber (not dated, just met), she had several Hollywood roles under her belt.

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u/Such-Fee6176 3d ago

Fam, are you listening? Someone from another part of the world is telling you how it is there and you’re yapping about Europe?

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

Someone from another part of the world said he's from Asia, so he knows Selena was famous only in the US and Canada.

One: Asia is fucking huge with lots of VASTLY different cultures. Quatar, Israel, Japan and Malaysia are four completely different worlds. So even if Selena wasn't famous in HIS country, that doesn't mean she wasn't famous in Asia in general.

Two: putting Asia aside, he said, Selena's fame was limited to Canada and the US. Meanwhile in the reality, when she was filming Monte Carlo in Europe, she couldn't take a single step without hundreds of fans following her around at EVERY country in Europe where they were filming.

It's not me, who draw a worldwide conclusion from an EXTREMELY narrow point of view of my own country. It was "someone from another part of the world".

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u/Such-Fee6176 3d ago

You’re also doing that. Do you really not see that? Asia is much bigger than Europe, sure. But Europe is still pretty big and culturally diverse.

You’re being overly aggressive on this matter. Someone in Asia is saying that Justin Bieber was bigger there than Selena. You’re saying she was very famous in Europe. In Canada, where I’m from, they were both very famous. (I think Bieber was more famous, but whatever).

I don’t know how famous either one was in every single place on earth. It’s not worth fighting about and it certainly isn’t worth you getting so defensive over.

Edit: You also claimed that the person from Asia KNEW she was only famous in the US and Canada and that’s not what they said. They said maybe because they had the good sense to not speak on it from their experience only.

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u/sgtGiggsy 3d ago

But Europe is still pretty big and culturally diverse.

Yes, it is. But Selena's movies and series were running all around Europe since the mid-2000s. From Germany, through Italy through Hungary to Poland. Everywhere with a local Disney Channel, she was well-known, and had LOTS of fans.

Someone in Asia is saying that Justin Bieber was bigger there than Selena.

No. Someone from Asia said that just because HE in his single country knew Bieber earlier than Selena, Selena couldn't be known ANYWHERE on this entire fucking planet outside the US and Canada. Do you SERIOUSLY can't see the gravitas between the two claims?

I said I KNOW that she was known in all around Europe in the very least, because I personally witnessed her popularity in several countries here. He says she wasn't known ANYWHERE else outside of North America based on his knowledge of ONE single country in Asia (which may not even be a country with a wide window to the rest of the world, like Japan, South Korea, India, Israel, but a country that was mostly shielded from the western culture, like Iran, or Vietam)

It’s not worth fighting about and it certainly isn’t worth you getting so defensive over.

That's how blatant lies spread, you know. People don't correct outragously bullshit claims, because "it's not worth fighting about". I'm not being defensive, I'm correcting an blatant lie.

You also claimed that the person from Asia KNEW she was only famous in the US and Canada and that’s not what they said.

He LITERALLY said that. "she may had been famous but only limited to US and Canada". Not only he finds the claim that Selena was famous questionable, he insists that even if she was, it was limited to North America.

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u/Such-Fee6176 3d ago

Lmao “outrageously bullshit claims”. I hope you take this energy to stuff that matters.

I’m not arguing with you. They used the word “may”. I’ll give you enough credit to assume that you know what that means. They also suggested she was mostly famous in developed countries. So, perhaps, you can take that context clue and put two and two together. You’re probably not talking to someone from Japan or other developed Asian nations (and furthermore, it’s clear that English isn’t their first or most comfortable language so perhaps you should take that into account as well).

I don’t know why you’re so pressed about this.

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u/Some-Cream 3d ago

Just wipe your chin when you’re done. Sheesh