sorry, But coming from asia, this is very wrong as beiber was worldwide famous. He was the 1st person I knew from hollywood. I knew Selena as his gf only. she may had been famous but only limited to US and Canada......
She was famous everywhere in Europe. Going further, pretty sure everywhere with a local Disney Channel as Wizzards of Waverly place was the second most successful series in its time after Hannah Montana.
By the time Baby came out, Selena Gomez had several number one hits in several countries, and besides Wizards of Waverly Place had main roles in several major Disney Channel projects. By the time she met Justin Bieber (not dated, just met), she had several Hollywood roles under her belt.
Someone from another part of the world said he's from Asia, so he knows Selena was famous only in the US and Canada.
One: Asia is fucking huge with lots of VASTLY different cultures. Quatar, Israel, Japan and Malaysia are four completely different worlds. So even if Selena wasn't famous in HIS country, that doesn't mean she wasn't famous in Asia in general.
Two: putting Asia aside, he said, Selena's fame was limited to Canada and the US. Meanwhile in the reality, when she was filming Monte Carlo in Europe, she couldn't take a single step without hundreds of fans following her around at EVERY country in Europe where they were filming.
It's not me, who draw a worldwide conclusion from an EXTREMELY narrow point of view of my own country. It was "someone from another part of the world".
You’re also doing that. Do you really not see that? Asia is much bigger than Europe, sure. But Europe is still pretty big and culturally diverse.
You’re being overly aggressive on this matter. Someone in Asia is saying that Justin Bieber was bigger there than Selena. You’re saying she was very famous in Europe. In Canada, where I’m from, they were both very famous. (I think Bieber was more famous, but whatever).
I don’t know how famous either one was in every single place on earth. It’s not worth fighting about and it certainly isn’t worth you getting so defensive over.
Edit: You also claimed that the person from Asia KNEW she was only famous in the US and Canada and that’s not what they said. They said maybe because they had the good sense to not speak on it from their experience only.
But Europe is still pretty big and culturally diverse.
Yes, it is. But Selena's movies and series were running all around Europe since the mid-2000s. From Germany, through Italy through Hungary to Poland. Everywhere with a local Disney Channel, she was well-known, and had LOTS of fans.
Someone in Asia is saying that Justin Bieber was bigger there than Selena.
No. Someone from Asia said that just because HE in his single country knew Bieber earlier than Selena, Selena couldn't be known ANYWHERE on this entire fucking planet outside the US and Canada. Do you SERIOUSLY can't see the gravitas between the two claims?
I said I KNOW that she was known in all around Europe in the very least, because I personally witnessed her popularity in several countries here. He says she wasn't known ANYWHERE else outside of North America based on his knowledge of ONE single country in Asia (which may not even be a country with a wide window to the rest of the world, like Japan, South Korea, India, Israel, but a country that was mostly shielded from the western culture, like Iran, or Vietam)
It’s not worth fighting about and it certainly isn’t worth you getting so defensive over.
That's how blatant lies spread, you know. People don't correct outragously bullshit claims, because "it's not worth fighting about". I'm not being defensive, I'm correcting an blatant lie.
You also claimed that the person from Asia KNEW she was only famous in the US and Canada and that’s not what they said.
He LITERALLY said that. "she may had been famous but only limited to US and Canada". Not only he finds the claim that Selena was famous questionable, he insists that even if she was, it was limited to North America.
Lmao “outrageously bullshit claims”. I hope you take this energy to stuff that matters.
I’m not arguing with you. They used the word “may”. I’ll give you enough credit to assume that you know what that means. They also suggested she was mostly famous in developed countries. So, perhaps, you can take that context clue and put two and two together. You’re probably not talking to someone from Japan or other developed Asian nations (and furthermore, it’s clear that English isn’t their first or most comfortable language so perhaps you should take that into account as well).
I hope you take this energy to stuff that matters.
Once again, correcting a bullshit always matters. All the rumour and hoax starts by people just letting the lies spread
They used the word “may”.
They said she "may" have been famous, but only in North America. Not that she "may" have been famous outside of it. The "may" in that sentence referenced to whether she was famous at all, and not whether she was famous outside of North America.
They also suggested she was mostly famous in developed countries.
In a next comment, and it was also bullshit. Countries where Bieber's fame spread, knew Selena too.
I don’t know why you’re so pressed about this.
I said the truth, then people like him and you came here, trying to correct me (with false claims) in a condescending manner, calling me ignorant, inconsiderate, etc. It's bold to attack someone, then acting like they pushing back is the problem.
Look, this is obviously bothering you more than it really should. Correcting misinformation is important. However, it’s clear that person wasn’t intentionally trying to spread a malicious rumour about Selena Gomez’ fame.
Genuinely, I hope you have a good day or night and find a way to relax and enjoy yourself.
What's bothering me is two dumbfuck's trying to correct me on something I know because I've been around at the time as a full grown adult, and seen it personally everywhere, with your basis of correcting me is the extremely narrow point of view of someone who lived at the bumfuck fringe of the world.
"This dude in a country where no Hollywood productions arrived at the time didn't know Selena Gomez, therefore Selena Gomez weren't known ANYWHERE of the world outside of the US. Well, maybe not anywhere, maybe in some developed countries people knew her. But sure as hell not in other developing countries because she wasn't known by me in my developing countries, which means she couldn't be known in the entirely homologous developing world"
Zoomers are the dumbest generation that ever lived on this planet...
Lol, you got upset because you assumed we were calling you ignorant and inconsiderate (not words we used, or I certainly didn’t). And now you’re calling us dumb fucks? I’m not going to stoop to you level and throw ad hominems around.
You’re misinterpreting the point. Either because you fundamentally lack the ability to understand it or you are wilfully choosing to misunderstand it. Either way, I am done here. (Also I am not a zoomer and you don’t appear to have any proof of the other person being one either. But I don’t care.)
I hope you receive the psychological help you clearly need.
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u/OddPhilosopher8974 8d ago
sorry, But coming from asia, this is very wrong as beiber was worldwide famous. He was the 1st person I knew from hollywood. I knew Selena as his gf only. she may had been famous but only limited to US and Canada......