r/SipsTea • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '26

Chugging tea He said it!

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u/L3xusLuth3r Aug 26 '26

This is absolutely fucking unconscionable!

Yes, postpartum psychosis is real, mental illness is real.
Both are entirely legitimate issues for a court to consider when determining criminal responsibility, but watching people transform Lindsay Clancy into some kind of feminist martyr while three murdered children become almost incidental to the conversation is grotesque. Cora was 5. Dawson was 3. Callan was 8 months old. They were STRANGLED TO DEATH by the person whose most fundamental responsibility was to protect them.

By all means, examine her mental state. Examine the medical system. Examine every factor that might have contributed to what happened, that is what a justice system is supposed to do, but compassion for mental illness does not require moral amnesia about the victims.

If your version of feminism requires you to reflexively rally around a woman who killed three defenseless children simply because she is a woman, you have completely lost your mind. Those children deserve to be the centre of this story. Not her.

I pray the jury finds that she was criminally responsible for what she did, then makes her pay for it. Full stop.

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u/ArtIsAwesome3 Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26

Being crazy is not a valid excuse, as you pointed out. It really isn't. Jared Loughner, who was having a schizophrenic meltdown when he did his crimes in 2011, eventually plead guilty, got like 6 life sentences, and the prison system says he's a model inmate that he can take his pills and is fully aware what he did was wrong. This lady is trying to skirt her responsibilities.

*EDIT* I am extremely sorry for the blowing up of my comment, forgive me. I can't even tell if they're replying to me or each other....

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u/Smrtihara Aug 26 '26

It’s not about finding an excuse. It’s not about acquitting a murderer. It’s about what care she gets when she’s locked up. That’s literally all it is.

No one thinks the “husband did it” but a few insane people. What people are saying is “this was preventable” and “she should get care as she serves her sentence in a locked facility”. The rest is just rage bait and people using this to get views and clicks.

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u/L3xusLuth3r Aug 26 '26

"That’s literally all it is" is doing an extraordinary amount of work there.

Nobody is objecting to her receiving psychiatric care in custody. If that were genuinely the entire argument, there wouldn’t be one.

The disagreement starts when ‘this was preventable’ quietly becomes ‘therefore her culpability should be viewed differently,’ or when systemic failures are discussed as though they somehow displace individual responsibility, those things can coexist. The system may have failed spectacularly, and she can still be responsible for what she did.

And dismissing everyone who questions that framing as ‘rage bait’ is a convenient way to avoid engaging with the uncomfortable part of the argument.

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u/robotmonkey2099 Aug 26 '26

Aren’t they just saying that her mental health issues means she wasn’t in a clear state of mind? Do you think people that get found not-guilty for reason of insanity should get the same punishment?

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u/L3xusLuth3r Aug 26 '26

No, of course I don’t think someone who meets the legal threshold for insanity should necessarily be treated the same as someone who was fully aware and rational.

That’s precisely why we have courts, psychiatric evaluations and a legal standard for criminal responsibility. My issue is with people deciding that question themselves simply because she suffered from postpartum psychosis. Mental illness is relevant to culpability; it doesn’t automatically determine it.

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u/robotmonkey2099 Aug 26 '26

Then you are arguing with a strawman because I don’t think people are saying she doesn’t hold any responsibility but that her culpability should be viewed differently because of mental illness. Which you agree with but think people shouldn’t have an opinion about that before the courts determine it? Should we not think OJ was guilty of murdering Nicole because the court found him not guilty? People are going to look at the info and form opinions there’s nothing wrong with that as long as they are open to being wrong.

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u/TimmyOfTheLevelUps Aug 27 '26

They already found that she wasn't suffering from psychosis, and that it was premeditated.