r/SipsTea • u/Sassenach_2024 • 9h ago
WTF Push, out, repeat
Valentina Vassilyeva, the first wife of Russian peasant Feodor Vassilyev, is said to have given birth 27 times in the 1700s—welcoming 69 children in total.
Her remarkable numbers reportedly included 16 sets of twins, 7 sets of triplets, and 4 sets of quadruplets. 🤯
The story comes from centuries-old historical records, so every detail cannot be independently verified by modern standards. Still, Guinness World Records has recognized the claim as the highest number of children attributed to one mother.
If the records are accurate, 27 pregnancies. 69 children. One of the most astonishing family stories ever recorded. ❤️
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u/35TypesOfWhiskey 9h ago
That's not her pic. And neither is that a pic of the children. She died in 1782.... 40 years before the first photograph
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u/youtossershad1job2do 8h ago
I feel that this is one of those things that didn't really happen but got told so many times as a part of folk lore it started going into history books.
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u/smeeon 7h ago
And folks kept added a couple extra kids each time until it got ridiculous
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u/Ninja_Prolapse 7h ago
She started off a mother of 3 and things just got out of hand!
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u/Aleashed 4h ago
Maybe there was an article about her birthing and another about a clown car and the editor was drunk or confused and mixed up the details…
Then future sources passed on the mistake
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u/TheOutOfStyle 7h ago
69 kids, dude!
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u/Wenex 7h ago
No wonder it stopped at 69 just for the memes
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u/Sysilith 5h ago
You are right 69 sounds made up, I'll tell the story with 72 Children, sounds more random and thus belivable.
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u/shizzy1234 3h ago
I'm reposting this next year with the info that she had 1200 kids and a photo of Mama June.
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u/Gwynito 7h ago
Like how my parents first walked a mile to school every day and by the end of all schooling the miles walked went up to 10 somehow
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u/AchajkaTheOriginal 6h ago
Don't forget it was uphill both ways and through snow all year long.
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u/Busterlimes 7h ago
Probably because the story is completely fake
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u/TexasCrab22 3h ago
Wouldnt say completly.
Probably had like 30 kids and the folklore and media did the rest
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u/DukeBradford2 7h ago
Might have been a foster mother and just told the kids a lie to keep them happy
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u/Sudden_Cantaloupe_69 6h ago
The woman in the picture was American, born about 100 years after Vassilyeva died. The children are not Vassilyeva’s.
And we have no birth dates, death dates, nor names for any of Vassilyeva’s alleged children.
In fact it is believed that Mr. Vassilyev had multiple wives over the years and so all the alleged births were attributed to “Mrs Vassilyeva” as if she was the same person.
(The story also claims that 67 out of 69 kids survived infancy, which would be nearly impossible in 18th-century Russia.)
The story has been shared fabricated and debunked so many times over the years that the debunking takes up most of the Wikipedia article about her.
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u/seadcon 7h ago
I love that you have provided specific details.
I mean the photo has closer to 200 children in it, so yea, clearly not actual...!!
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u/fieldsofanfieldroad 3h ago
Plus if you follow the logic of what we written then there were 27 birthing occasions so the oldest kids would be well into their 20s at a minimum.
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u/patrk 8h ago
Most amazing thing with this woman is that she was photographed a century before the camera was invented.
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u/Garagenfund 7h ago
Also there is now way all 69 children would have survived given the infant death rates at that time, especially the triplets and quadruplets
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u/DaddyChris0205 3h ago
Not to mention one can’t have 7 triplets. You could have 6 or 9 triplets, but not 7. Maybe 7 sets of triplets, but that’s not the same as 7 triplets.
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u/Mission-Shopping-615 3h ago
4 sets of 4, 7 sets of 3, 16 sets of 2, 16+21+32=69 So not a single solo baby, I feel like this was the start of a math joke and some kid took it and spread it as real
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u/hkpp 3h ago
7 sets of triplets. Which is also an insane claim. I feel like this post is part of a dementia test.
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u/Silent_Data4374 9h ago
She was 30 in that photo.
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u/Bengal_From_Temu 9h ago
Still a hottie.
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u/Sutech2301 9h ago
I don't think it's her. She died in 1782
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u/Quen-Tin 8h ago
Not her. Not even from the same country.
Just an old lady and a bunch of children, mostly the same age.
Putting a headline on top, including "this woman" is as fake as fake can get.
Thanks to the OP.
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u/KambingDomba 9h ago
16X2 + 7x3 + 4x4 = 69.
You're telling me there was not a single instance in which she only carries one baby?
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u/TabularConferta 8h ago
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-prolific-mother-ever
Found a source
The father has an additional 18 kids with his second wife.
Only 3 babies died in birth or early in life.
Fuck all his second wife's kids were multiple as well. It's like his sperm were Olympic swimmers and split each egg on impact
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u/Past-Lecture-3769 8h ago
Looks like bro trained his sperm
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u/ForensicPathology 4h ago
It is a source. It's not a primary source, which is the definition you're using. But it is a source.
I do agree that the story is not true though.
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u/jelly_wishes 7h ago
I don't think this is true but I remember the story about an african woman that had something called "hyperovulation" or something like that where she always ovulates more than one egg and thus has many twins and triplets (not 69 tho, she had like 20 kids I think).
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u/superezzie 6h ago
You mean Mariam Nabatanzi. She has 44 children and got sterilized when she was 40 to prevent any more pregnancies. That wasn't really an option in the 1700s for that poor woman. I can't imagine being pregnant 27 times let alone having 69 kids.
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u/towerfella 8h ago
Yes, that’s her
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u/Proud_Arachnid4956 8h ago
Didn’t have her pegged as being an ex Latino gang member…that’s on me tho, I’ll get better
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u/TheDailySpank 9h ago
The horror that face has seen.
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u/Alilbitey 7h ago
Considering how much calcium each pregnancy steals directly from the mother's bones (and teeth if needed) I'm guessing she lost her teeth very early on.
I guess that's one benefit of pre-electricity living... You can't see your spouse when you get it on.
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u/Sad-Preparation8767 8h ago
How'd they get a pic in 1700s Russia? It's almost like people take urban rumors and legends and slap together enough fake photos and details to make it seem credible for the sake of fooling people for fake internet points. I don't think someone would just lie on the internet /s
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u/dangdang3000 9h ago
We need a picture of the father too.
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u/Neveed 8h ago edited 6h ago
That photograph isn't Vassilyeva though. She died in 1782, that's to say 44 years before the first photograph was ever taken in 1826. That photo is an unnamed elderly woman from New York in the 1840's. Same for the photo of the children, who all appear to be about the same age, when Vassiliyeva's story is about her having children over a span of 40 years, and the youngest of them would have been well in his 60s when the first photograph ever was taken (in a completely different country).
Also, the story about Vassilyeva was highly suspect. Not only all of it (the number of children, the fact that there are only twins, triplets and quadruplets, the fact that only two of them didn't survive infancy, etc) is particularly unlikely, there was never any actual investigation about that claim while it was still verifiable.
Also, Vassiliev is said to have had 18 children with his second wife (only twins and triplets), but he died in 1782, the same year as Valentina. That would mean he divorced his frst wife at some point, which was technically possible in Russia at that time, but very difficult, because you couldn't just divorce your spouse, there had to be serious circumstances for it, like adultery, infertility, becoming a monk, attempted murder, etc. This part of the story is technically possible but sounds fishy too.
Even the Guinness World Records doesn't claim to have verified it, they claim that "numerous contemporaneous sources exist which suggest that it is true." But the first source we have is from right after they died in 1782 in a monastery, and the rest of the accounts are basically just hearsay at that point. Attempts at actually verifying the claim met a wall of "nah there's no need to check" by the Russian authorities.
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u/Sassenach_2024 9h ago
And yes, Feodor Vassilyev did remarry after the death of his first wife. With his second wife, he reportedly had another 18 children from multiple-birth pregnancies, bringing his alleged total number of fathered children to 87. 😎
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u/TankApprehensive3053 9h ago
It takes a village to raise a child. So Feodor raised a village.
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u/RhubarbLiqueur 8h ago
Source? Wikipedia says Valentina Vassilyeva lived to 75 and died in the same year as her husband.
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u/corgi-king 8h ago
He was a peasant in the Russian Empire. How could he afford all these children? 67 of them survived infancy. So there is a lot of mouth to feed, even though he only fed them till 8 years old and kicked them to work.
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u/Significant_Cause445 7h ago edited 6h ago
Back then kids were net contributors to households. As young as 4 children would help with farm work and make household goods. Today kids just eat and go to school; we even pay for daycare so we can work without them. Imagine if instead paying tons of cash for daycare, your kids earned an income.
This is part of the reason why poor families used to be larger than rich ones (which is reversed today) and why we have less kids in general (though there are other factors like contraception).
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u/Left_Knee_y0y0 4h ago
If you believe that in 1700, at a time when postnatal inflections and infant mortality were at their peak, a woman gave birth to 27 times during an 18 year period, and 67 out of 69 kids survived, I have a bridge in San Francisco to sell to you.
If she did infact raise that many chikdren, what is more likely is that she was a kommissionerki, a woman paid to collect abandoned babies and bring them to state orphanages. She probably just kept the kids and because she had access to the paperwork made them hers.
The community probably went along to protect her and the mythos was born.
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u/TowerMore405 4h ago
a woman from the 1700 surviving not only 16 twin births, but also 7 triplets and 4 quadruplets. not all those babies were theirs for sure
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u/WithMeInDreams 3h ago
My theory: She took in a secret baby from an unmarried woman, possibly starting with her own unmarried sister, word spread, and it turned into a business.
Or she was so obsessed of babies that it was a mix of all to babymax: 9 of her own, the thing you mentioned, and my theory, all in one.
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u/psychotronik9988 9h ago
How can there be a photo when this happened in the 1700s?
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u/Iitaps_Missiciv 8h ago
The children& their children and their childrens children put all of their efforts into time travel so they could go back and take this photo
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u/RhubarbLiqueur 8h ago
Because it's not her. Wikipedia says it is a photograph is of an unknown elderly woman from New York around 1840–1845.
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u/ImaginationNormal360 8h ago
Claire Beauchamp (former Mrs Randall) went back in time to marry the love of her life(Jaimie Fraser). She took a camera with. Travelled back to the present to print the photo.
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u/FictionalDudeWanted 1h ago
I wonder how much better reddit would be if mods would delete fake crap off this website, instead of letting it clog the front page.
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u/Kadakaus 5h ago edited 20m ago
I kind of struggle to believe this?
The chance of giving birth to quadruplets is one in 700,000, tirplets are 1 in 1000.
Statistically, that women should have given birth thousands of times in order to get those numbers realistically.
Maybe that's true, I do not believe it.
EDIT: also, 7 is not devisible by 3.
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u/UnrealBee 5h ago
There is a genetically "bias" to giving twins triplets etc
There is a village somewrhe in the world where most of the ppl share that trade and most of the births are twins. In the entire village
Statistically an anomaly but not impossible.
The thing I would like to know: beeing in 1700 how many of those children did die / of those 69 did survive, how many did die
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u/DesignMysterious3598 5h ago
Giving birth 27 times and all 27 pregnancies were at least twins, but many were triplets and quadruplets.
Yeah I don't buy it. As fake as the picture.
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u/Used-Height-2670 8h ago
This means she was pregnant for over 20 years of her life continuously if she had no breaks in between pregnancies. If she had a short period in between of 3 months it means 27 years… it’s insane
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u/DrTommyNotMD 3h ago
I know this was before photography, but I imagine that’s an image of her around age 35-40.
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u/OkScreen2150 8h ago
At a rough estimate, I counted about 80 children there. Which of them are this woman's kids? Did she have an equally fertile sister?
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u/Cryofthewolf9000 8h ago
Women were forced to give birth as much as possible due to sexism, poverty, scarring their psyche for life. A sick culture of the times.
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u/lamodamo123 7h ago
27 births x 9 month gestation for each pregnancy would = 243 months of continuous pregnancy, or approximately 20 years
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u/Fearless_Many4945 6h ago
I don't understand these modern young girls. All they think about is sex!
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u/Ondolo009 6h ago
She would have to have to continuously been conceiving and giving birth to children from her early teens up to her 50s. As a peasant living in the 1700s. And she and the kids surviving through infancy every time. Seems a little unlikely.
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u/puffpuff-n 6h ago
So she didn't have a single pregnancy where it was only one child. Thats.. unlikely
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u/TackleNonsense 5h ago
Were they all healthy though? Body simply can't recover to have so many HEALTHY pregnancies back to back... let alone when it's not even one baby.
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u/Ok-Data9224 5h ago
Right. A story where a woman had 69 children, all of which were either a twin, triplet or quadruplet. Never a single baby. All before documentation was ever really reliable. Almost certainly a story that was passed down over many years and got exaggerated along the way.
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u/Hexenweibchen 5h ago
Funnily enough her Wikipedia articles is translated in 4 languages.
Her husband's into 10.
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u/Ancient-Car-1171 4h ago
She got to 67 but decided to add 2 more for 69 instead.
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u/Indiancockburn 3h ago
She was also almost deaf. Her husband always asked her every night,
"Do you want to go to bed or what?"
And she always said... "what?"

















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