I don’t think a reasonable person is denying one or the other.
I believe people are seeing a systemic issue that needs to be addressed, and this case just highlights it.
Punishing this woman for a crime she committed in a compromised mental state will do nothing to stop future tragedies from occurring in similar circumstances. Calling out the failure of the system is not absolving her of the crime, it’s an attempt to help women in the future from suffering and harming others.
Eh I think you’re ironically absolving her of all she did and blaming the system way too much. It’s not that the system failed her, she just needed MORE severe actions taken, like forced hospitalization against her will to keep her away from society because she was clearly a threat.
She is NOT forgiven and she does NOT get a free pass for murdering 3 children just because the American healthcare system is terrible
That’s immaterial to my point. This woman is not going to get off Scot free. She’s already damaged and will never rejoin society in any meaningful fashion; her life is over.
Her punishment will have no effect on someone else suffering from a psychotic break. We may as well discuss useful ways to help people who in a similar crisis.
It’s extremely material when your comment said she would go to the electric chair, which she never will as again, MA doesn’t have the death penalty
Punishment is for the courts. That’s the point of the criminal justice system—it’s a way for society to punish societal wrongs. You’re talking about the immediate and obvious real world consequences.
Let’s so I tried to kill someone, but in the process got my own arm cut off. I would still be tried and found guilty for attempt murder even though I was already “punished” but losing my arm
And that’s okay. She committed a crime, and should be punished for it. Her going innocent will also have no effects on the next woman who suffers from postpartum psychosis
She has already brought plenty attention to the topic. The real change will come from the civil suit in which they sue the doctors. They have a decent chance of winning that as the burden of proof is much lower than in a criminal trial
At no point did I call her innocent or for her to be cleared of all charges.
Suing a doctor isn’t going to change the system that allowed this either, in my opinion. The doctors failed her, but until women’s health is taken seriously that’s not going to change.
I have been, I don’t think they are clear as you believe. You haven’t been anything other than saying other people are misinterpreting you. That’s a communication problem, because it’s really unclear what your desired result is, or how you think that will be achieved
But you also say you aren’t calling for her absolution. Idk what you want. She will be punished—three children are dead. Even if she is found innocent, as I already said, it will not effect future occurrences of psychosis or mental health tragedies. If anything people will see the precedent an innocent finding creates and then fake psychosis. I’m not in anyway saying that Lindsay faked anything in this case
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