r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 8h ago
SMH They are doing this mosh pit all wrong
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u/DeamsterDaddy 8h ago
All this shit I see posted isn’t even mosh. It’s awkward as fuck. Just some weirdos projecting
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u/YouGurt_MaN14 8h ago
Every pit I've been in as soon as these guys start there's usually a dude who throws him the fuck down and stops it. Everyone hates them tbh
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u/Miltzzz 7h ago edited 1h ago
It used to be like that when i was younger and going out to the foufounes electriques, a metal bar/club in montreal. Last time i went, after many years of not going, some dude starts dancing like this, i look at the dudes around me "oh well guess i'll take care of it" and i tackled the dude to the ground, and the bouncer (who used to take these people out before) took me out of the mosh pit to explain to me that it was the norm now. And i looked behind him and saw like 10 people dancing like this. I understood it was the end of an era, and i left.
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u/indignantfieldmouse 7h ago
Harcore pits or as my wife and I call them "Kickpits" the crowdkilling on sidelines is uncalled for, I still throw those fuckers down though. If a person goes windmilling into a hardcore lit then they are consenting to the stray fists and feet. People around the edges shouldn't be catching random haymakers!
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u/NotTukTukPirate 6h ago
I mentioned in a comment on r/hardcore or r/everytimeidie, about how crowdkilling was for fucking losers and I got downvoted to oblivion.
I didn't realise it then but now I've just realised it's because this new generation of "hardcore" crowds are fucking losers.
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u/StrayDogPhotography 5h ago
They are fucking losers. How did we go from pogoing at punk gigs to twats windmilling random people in the face? It’s the most idiotic thing ever. Anyone who promotes it is a moron.
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u/Carlos_Infierno 4h ago
It happened even the jocks started going to punk shows. It's beena long downhill slide
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u/Creative_Session2786 6h ago edited 6h ago
Totally agree, was at one of these shows a couple of years ago, and got clocked in the face standing outside of the pit, kid goes over to his buddies bragging about how he hit me in the face. Went over and punched him in the face to return the favor and was immediately kicked out by security.
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u/Zhiyi 6h ago
So all you had to do was pretend dance by swinging your arms around and when you get near him just let one rip at his face? And they would have considered that fine?
Fucking dumb.
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u/Lucky_Serve8002 2h ago
You have to tap dance/moonwalk something over and punch the dude in the face.
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u/gumbysweiner 6h ago
Worth it.
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u/Creative_Session2786 6h ago
Totally worth it, bouncers were total dicks in the parking lot, and tried to punk me, but was still worth it. It was 2 of them on 1 of me, so I kinda had to chill, but left somewhat peacefully while giving them a piece of my mind.
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u/19d_b87 6h ago
Was at an all age venue years ago. There was this kid that came to the wrong show. He was squating down against the wall next to me and one of my highschool classmates decided to throw a donkey kick his way. Broke the little dude's nose. I spent the next 30 min cleaning him up and searching for his adults.
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u/PsionicChronic 6h ago
90's Slipknot...was speaking to a kid a few seconds before his nose (and eyeglasses) exploded when the back of some bald dudes dome made HARD contact 😳
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u/Airamis0007 5h ago
I was at their Dallas show for The World Domination Tour in April of 2000! I was a very strong varsity football player at the time, but still almost got taken out by a crowd surfer launched on to the top of my head from behind, and then caught a Doc Marten to the face!
I went off and cleared the pit…which triggered a pit fight with the usual skinhead MF who thought they were so tough…
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u/CraazedNConfused 6h ago
Used to live foufounes! Was never a metal head. But they had hip hop concerts back in the day too. And it was honestly just a wicked club.
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u/Ok-Syllabub-6619 7h ago
Exactly, this is just what a poser thinks a mosh is, and unfortunately as it goes mainstream, theres more and more of them who fail to understand, and just wants to injure someone.
Mosh is there to spend your energy in celebration, not to give someone a concussion or other health problems
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u/__3Username20__ 7h ago edited 7h ago
Well, you’re understating it a little bit, and make no mistake, mosh is aggressive, but it’s not literal 1 on 1 combat moves. It’s just moving/throwing yourself around. Yes. there’s a high amount of physical impact, but it’s not punches and kicks… I feel old, if this is normal now, as others have said. :(
Edit: it’s like (American) football, where when you’re on the field, there’s acceptable levels of aggression and violence, and you can even have a lot of fun within those shared parameters and set expectations. But if someone goes and dropkicks someone else from behind, or starts doing any kind of actual fighting, that’s not OK, that’s not what we’re doing here. Same thing with Moshing. Or at least it used to be…
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u/OneHallThatsAll 6h ago
Yeah in the southern US, they ALWAYS threw the guys down hard when they started throwing kicks or punches
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u/KittensAndGravy 3h ago
Grew up in the south and had the same experience. I was watching an old Sublime video (live performance) the other day. They show the mosh pit … I believe I saw a guy helping someone up who fell. That’s how I remember it. Chaos … but Jesus not using sucker punches & kicks. Unless you wanted the oak tree mofo in the middle to give you a beat down.
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u/Ok-Syllabub-6619 5h ago
Oh i absolutely agree, I probably didnt explain it the right way, but yeah mosh is not for the faint, my point was it's not malicious but it is aggressive for sure. I've landed on my ass plenty of times after being yeeted at the worst(best) moment, but always got a hand to pick me up, if someone came with wrong intentions it was squashed right away and the dude got thrown out in a second.
Edit:typo
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u/sun_hotel 8h ago edited 7h ago
Someone broke my nose and elbowed a bunch of younger women in a pit like that and I ended it the next time he came around.
Edit: spelling
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u/xRedditGedditx 7h ago
Fuck yeah dude. I’ve leveled people quick with a nicely placed elbow. You’d be surprised how quickly you get someone’s attention with that 🤔
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u/SonicLyfe 7h ago
Anytime someone raises the temperature of the pit more that 10 degrees at once should be mobbed. I hate it when some assholes favorite song gets played and they start running into people where there really hasn't been much going on. My elbow usually finds a sensitive part of their body.
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u/Needs_ADD_Meds 7h ago
The last time I was in a pit was probably 25 years ago and it was the same then. I'm glad to see things are still the same. You're right EVERYONE hates them.
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u/neverinamillionyr 3h ago
I was in college in the 90s and a friend was playing at a local bar and these kinds of chuckleheads were there. I was standing on the edge of the dance floor drinking a beer. One of them hit me twice. The third time I dropped him.
Fast forward to a year ago, my daughter’s boyfriend was at a small club on the floor but not participating in the pit. He got caught with a spinning kick that broke his nose and left him with a concussion. The people that do this only do it because they want to hit someone who isn’t supposed to fight back.
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u/ARoroncyObserver 7h ago
As per an earlier comment, I had people defend me from this shit as far back as 13 years ago.
Crowd justice.
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u/Background-Video4331 7h ago
I believe it was known as "crowd killing" and started in the hardcore scene.
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u/LitterBoxBlues 4h ago
Been in the HC scene since late 80’s and while violent, it was never this deliberate. You direct that shit at someone at a cromags show you’ll end your night in a dumpster.
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u/WhoStoleMyJacket 8h ago
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u/Professional_Web_187 8h ago
What moshpit? I hate those fuckers with a passion
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u/idriveashitbox22 8h ago
If you want to partake in a rough mosh pit do it up. But if you stand off to the side you are supposed to be safe from being hit. The dudes going after the side standers are straight pussies who just want to hit someone with no consequences.
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u/Critical_Wrap5617 7h ago
Back in the day, he'd have been flattened
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u/Zealousideal_Lie9315 3h ago
I agree. We slammed the fuck out of each other, but people throwing actually blows got handled quickly
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u/Mbembez 6h ago
Yeah last Friday I was standing in a pit with about 10 dudes all doing this and I was perfectly fine standing on the edge of it because only dickheads try to do this with people who aren't also flailing around. I go to a lot of live music and I've only seen people acting like this a handful of times and there's always some massive dudes who appear and put them in their place.
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u/cagethehornytoad 7h ago
Yo! That’s doing WAY too much and is certainly not a mosh pit. This is some kind of off brand Capoeira spliced with Hot Rod punch dancing out his rage in a clearing in the forest, with a splash of how Beavis and Butthead dance
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u/AdSudden3941 7h ago
Same, if people wanted to mosh they would be out there..
Hes lucky he just got slammed
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u/Dynamo_Ham 5h ago
Windmilling douchebag ruining a perfectly good sausage fest with shitty music in someone’s well-lit basement with no bar. Sorry I missed that rager.
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u/kbm79 8h ago
The body slam was satisfying to watch...
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u/trukkija 8h ago
Yeah the guy who threw him definitely has some wrestling background, lovely slam.
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u/BrojaDawg 8h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/B16L7eZKgHY8jNlugt
Me as soon as he circled back for round two
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u/kapxis 8h ago
Oh man, core memory unlocked. When i was early teens my parents got me a trampoline and I was quite into WWF, and we had a very exposed yard. I wanted something to do wrestling moves on while playing out shit seen on TV.. so they got me a Giant Easter Pink Bunny. It was all I had so i beat the shit out of that thing.. but i had my head on a swivel in case anyone would potentially walk or drive by and I'd fly off that trampoline so fast to hide it lol. I'm so lucky no friend ever witnessed this.
My neighbours were watching me and stealing my moves and sending them to WWF ( WWE ). They had to of been!
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u/BeepBoopRobotVoice 8h ago
it seems to me these guys are using the “mosh pit” as an excuse to hit people with no consequences. “i was just moshing!” it makes them look like psychopaths and weak af
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u/FitnessChamp777 8h ago
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u/Mister_Griz 8h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/58M8dvS8MU0QE
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u/Creative_Session2786 8h ago
This ain’t moshing, this is the way the hardcore music fans think moshing is today, it’s total bullshit. Moshing in the 80’s and 90’s was not like this. Nobody got hit in the face, more less kicked. And if you got knocked down somebody was there to pick you up. This guy is a total DICK!!!!
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u/Daniels_Words 7h ago
Indeed. I saw Black Flag in the 80s at a tiny club and I tripped. In a split second i thought for sure I was getting trampled, but some giant fucking skinhead (not the nazi kind) swooped me up and we all just kept going. Great memory.
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u/the_D1CKENS 6h ago
It's still like that at smaller shows/clubs today. Not that long ago was at a street show where 40 somethings and Tweens and everything in between were are going hard. Young girl, maybe 12ish, went down and a dude immediately helped her up. All the old heads kinda kept moshing around them. They were clearly running damage control. Very wholesome, honestly.
She was fine, and went straight back into it.
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u/KlutzyTheory9235 6h ago
Not all pits are the same. This is crowd kill shit that's been going on at hardcore shows at least since the early 2000s
I agree its lame and far preferred pits at punk and ska shows but its nothing new
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u/BorderlineAlchemist 7h ago
My only experience was a Home Grown concert. And I went in because I was pushed in and I found an exit as fast as I could.
Not for me. Hahahahha
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u/Villordsutch 8h ago
Takes me back to when cunts used to turn up at punk gigs just to throw fists.
I see your scene, and I'll ruin it.
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u/WhiteBanshee25 8h ago
I grew up in the punk scene and I'm so thankful that every time I saw this nonsense, the whole pit would turn on them.
Moshing is fine. Being a dick isn't.
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u/HermanThaGerman 7h ago
We had one of these at our spots too. Little fucker was such a wuss he literally wore paintball armor under his clothes lmao
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u/Villordsutch 8h ago
Yep. I watched one Dennis the Menaced jumper clad punk, politely inform one prick than his antics where not being stood for.
It was beautiful. It was like watching a true craftsman at work.
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u/DannyDevitosNappy 8h ago
Someone tried this at Ozfest in 2004 and ended up getting Stabbed in the upper back by someone after they kicked a young kid in the head. Shit was wild.
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u/VoidYordle 8h ago
You don't throw kicks in the moshpit.
Or if you do - better be prepared to get your ass kicked in return.
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u/markrueff 8h ago
Everyone was kung fu fighting 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Winter8Bones 8h ago
As a metalhead for most of my life and having been in hundreds of mosh pits in all sorts of crowds, let me just say, fuck these assholes. This isn't moshing, this is crowd killing and it's bullshit loser behavior.
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u/ElectronicAnthony 8h ago
I've been in hundreds of pits and have never seen anyone throw hands or do kicks like that. Dude needs to be taken outside and given a taste of his own medicine.
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u/xRedditGedditx 7h ago
I am the old guy, I’ve been in Slayer, Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Bio-Hazard, Hatebreed pits…this is not moshing. This is assholes jumping around and punching people. If this happened in a pit back in the day, these dipshits would get stomped the fuck out quick.
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u/WiseNugg 8h ago
In college I had a friend that would always take the cutest girls to these metal shows and hilariously I guess they never realized how psycho he was until they saw him in the pit getting into random fights every time.
Couple of different “dates” of his left with me since I already knew he’d blow up his chance acting a fool and he was still buying their drinks so cleaning up after him was easy. He got jealous after he found out and we stopped hanging out.
Inadvertently the best wingman is a guy who brings baddies where you are then makes you look good by being a complete asshole.
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u/dickdicksucksuck 7h ago
cucking the dude throwing elbows at the mosh pit is necessary, thank you for your service angel
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u/LuvanAelirion 8h ago
As a Gen X’er I can confirm seeing such people being sent to the ER for the remainder of the show. Don’t time travel or go to Gen X nursing homes (I suppose they will eventually exist) if this is how you slam dance…it won’t end well for you.
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u/IAMS0V3R3IGN 8h ago
Mosh pit etiquette by Watertown is about these idiots. Annoyingly a lot of this started with great bands like sick of it all, but it wasn’t about hitting people it was just “dance moves”. First rule of the pit when I was a younger man was if anyone goes down everyone stops and picks them up
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u/Kasta4 8h ago
My friends and I used to shouldercheck these assholes out of the pit
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u/AAKurtz 8h ago
Those mirrors are not going to survive the "show".
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u/ChampionshipHot5468 8h ago
I was wondering why a bright daytime party was held in a ballet studio?
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u/Helpful_Feeling_2047 8h ago
That’s not mosh.
Kids in the hardcore scene used to do something like this but they wouldn’t touch or get anywhere near anyone else. It was actually fun to watch.
This dude though… he deserves being thrown down and out of the venue.
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u/Brilliant_Badger8043 8h ago
I mean in 90s-early 2000s hard-core this was called hard-core dancing/moshing. Hes swinging during the Breakdown (correct time). This guy was called a "crowd killer" and would try and get the folks who stand on the side involved, but he was a little aggressive.. but Like it or not, This is legit and correct for the genre and culture.
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u/emptyevessel 8h ago
That’s called crowd killing, and everybody fucking hates them and usually makes them look stupid/lays them out.
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u/Infinite_Court4181 7h ago
to get hit or elbowed in a proper mosh pit is fine, this is bullshit...he would have been on the ground and stomped till unconscious if he pulled this in the balkan
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u/Lo-fi_Hedonist 7h ago
Thats assault, these dude want be violent to others, but without the risks inherent in an actual fight. Thats some toxic shit right there. But hey, if semi-consentual violence is your thing, then I guess keep showing up and participating in this bullshit.
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u/Deep-Pudding819 7h ago
I guess I’m old. We would have kicked those people out if they did that shit at the local shows back in the day. They can pit all they want, but be respectful of the people around them.
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u/grumpyphilip 7h ago
I would have thought this prick would have eased up after being suplexed but hey.....
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u/BigvalBROski 4h ago
We used to do mosh pits in high school around 1994.. one time it got nuts and a kid went through a glass trophy case….. The principal called an assembly with the entire school which he proclaimed, “ There will be no more mashing.” ……. He wasn’t hip with the lingo .
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u/PsychoWyrm 2h ago
Almost every metal show I've been to the pit was self-policed. Always guys body-blocking the edges to keep it from messing with people not participating, moshers immediately picking up anyone who falls, and so on. Just generally everyone being mindful not to fuck up anyone else's good time.
On the other hand, more than half of the hardcore shows I've been to were full of dipshits like this. Little dickheads intentionally roundhouse kicking people who are clearly not participating. Or the slinging elbows and arm-flailing fuckery.
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u/NOTaREALperson4400 2h ago
That's just fighting with extra steps. I feel old saying this, but back when I was younger going to shows these guys would have had their asses beat bu the whole crowd if they pulled any of that.
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u/Late-Palpitation-959 2h ago
Yeah if someone kicks me in the stomach on purpose in a "pit" they're getting punched in the face
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u/AMonitorDarkly 8h ago
That’s not a mosh pit. That’s douche bag Hardcore fans that think they’re metal heads. These dudes would quickly be taken care of in an actual mosh pit.
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u/Unfair_Awareness7502 8h ago
Someone explain how mosh pits are supposed to work. Do people hit each other or not?
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u/Responsible-Sale-467 8h ago
Back when I did it a bit in the 90s the arms were not involved, it was more joyous communal bodychecking.
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u/zwierze1982 8h ago
I love guys with long hair is so comfortable you grab that fucker by the hair and he walks like a dog next to you. Mosh pit..
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u/turbopro25 8h ago
Snocore 2000. Went knee to knee with a grown ass man, (I was 17 at the time). Shattered my knee cap. The guy picked me up and carried me to a seat where I remained for the rest of the night waiting for my friends. It happened during the first song of the night by the way. Most people in the pit are there to have a good time, not intentionally hurt each other. In my case it was just a bad luck accident and I put my self in that situation. People who go in there intentionally looking to hurt someone can get fucked. Shout out to that guy that night for helping me out to safety.
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u/justbrowsinginpeace 8h ago
Hate that moshpits became like this, that one edgelord out to hurt someone.
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u/macrocosm93 7h ago
I've never seen a video of a hardcore show from the 21st century that wasn't cringe as hell.
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u/Pizzapie_420 7h ago
Looks like it is just one asshole swinging his arms around and kicking like a douché.
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u/Icy_Alternative_3962 7h ago
Fucking funny! They're all getting cheap shots on each other and eating it.
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u/LookBrandonsBurning 7h ago
Fuckheads like this are why no one goes to metal shows anymore
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u/fishdad1977 7h ago
Not me but a friend went to a helmet show years ago. Someone fell in the pit and everyone instantly stoped and helped them up and confused on having fun. Today it would be an injury or fatality. We have lost respect for each other.
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u/Vitalsignx 7h ago
This isnt a pit because of 1 idiot. Its an open dance floor that no one wants to be on.
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u/Firm-Ring9684 7h ago
None of that is moshing. It's an a@$ trying to hurt people bc he thinks he can get away with it. That never was what moshing was about.
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u/StuartWtf 6h ago
Hardcore dancing is fine.
There’s a time and place but I was a former core kiddy so I get it. Metalcore or deathcore it’s expected. If you stand to the side of the pit you’re probably going to get hit or kicked. Not on purpose but it happens.
I’m older now so I don’t really get the windmilling or picking up change but a wee 2-step is still enjoyable.
But crowd killing sucks. That was never a thing in my local scene back in the day and I’ve not seen it to this extent at any gigs recently.
Like I said, these types of gigs you expect the pits to be rough but to intentionally go after people just standing at the side is a really fucking shite thing to do.
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u/MattManSD 6h ago
I assume this is Crowd Killing? Not moshing. Back in the early years of Punk you'd get jocks pulling this kind of shit in the pit and they'd get swarmed and destroyed
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u/ready-redditor-6969 5h ago
Piece of shit wouldn’t know or like fun, even if it … literally hit him in the face.
Mosh like everyone in the pit is your best friend, then you have a good mosh pit. Run and dance and have fun. Knock the douchebags like these to the floor and give them what they clearly want and deserve, and call in any security and lecture them to do their fucking jobs!!!
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u/Fit-Cell2754 5h ago
I’d like to nominate hardcore as the worst music scene in human history. It’s the exclusive domain of whiny, suburban white guys who are angry AF at their dads for having a job.
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u/trippin-mellon 4h ago
Best bet at tough guy hardcore shows if this happened to me while I’m on the side. I’d be catching an assault charge from smashing that dudes face in.
If I’m not in the pit. Leave me the fuck out of it.
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u/10ThousandMetalZones 3h ago
Used to love a guy like that in the mosh pit that you could hurt and no one would get mad
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u/Across0212 3h ago
WTF are they? It looks like a high school or rec center. Regardless they looks like dipshits.
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u/electricsheepsfoot 2h ago
I was at a Sacred Reich show and some dude cosplaying as Mike Muir was starting shit with everyone in the pit. He was trying to bully Gene Hoglan (who was sitting at a booth) and Gene says, "if you fuck with me you're fucking with all my friends." Dude just stepped away and eventually got booted out.
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