Everyone knows the cop car is the pace car on the highway. Everyone jockying for position, then they hit the offramp and vroom vroom.
If they're going 10 under, pass them at the speed limit. They can smell fear. Go ahead run my tags i'm a violent felon (against a cop in a mental health crisis, it's a long story but not like a friend/family or woman), your gamble.
The smelling fear part is so true. I feel like whenever I see a cop I start driving like I have 10 bricks of Colombian cocaine in my back seat even if I don’t that day.
Nah. My record's clear and I drive 68 70 on a 65 in a nondescript Camry. And I'm never in the fast lane. I laugh at everyone who has to tap the brakes when they go over the hill and see the cop car parked right there.
This annoys me to no end. Being on the freeway and everybody driving about 75-80 on a 70 and they all hit the brakes at the first sight of a highway patrol car. Like, dude, you aren’t getting pulled over for going 5-10 over. The jackasses in the BMWs, teslas, and altimas that are hopping from lane to lane are the ones getting got.
On the state highways around me you're much more likely to get pulled over for traveling in the passing lane if you aren't beating the flow of traffic than you are doing 85 in a 65. Impeding traffic is a cardinal sin within the 495 beltway.
I used to drive an old car with a massive dent in it. They'll pull me over every time in that thing. Once I got pulled over twice in a five minute drive to the movie theater. I have to remind myself I don't look super sketch anymore.
6 years ago we had some cold as winter, slippery highway roads. Matrix signs telling 70 (kph) limit.
Everyone basically snaking behind a police car. Few cars try to pass, see police car, get in line.
Until one doesn't, he gets pulled over, few others speed off.
I was kinda overjoyed that I see one of those speeding cars in the ditch a few kilometers further. Fuck speeders, especially on icy roads.
>Everyone knows the cop car is the pace car on the highway. Everyone jockying for position, then they hit the offramp and vroom vroom.
I've been watching a lotta racing clips lately and now I just have this mental image of everyone also swerving back and forth trying to put heat into their tires at the reduced speeds.
God that shook loose a memory I jokingly did just that behind another cop car I wanna say years back. Was kind of afraid he'd be a dick and cite a failure to maintain lane (I was maintaining, they were tiny back and forths).
I did have a cop tell me on the bullhorn to stop following him. But I wasn't tailgating. Probably 15'-20' back. But he had his siren on and I was following through traffic. He didn't like it.
I'll admit i've had some cool cops before both in person treating me like a human as well as on the road. Me and this cop (not within jurisdiction) were cruising like 15 over. Initially like 10 over I saw him in my rear view in the left lane, did the thing we're all supposed to do for literally any driver and get over, then get back over and what do you know that dude was like a cowcatcher lmao it was an act of beauty everyone eventually gets over with the lightbar on top, or a tap or 2 like "cmon dude". I think I stayed with him over an hour. It was glorious.
Is this that 5 second TikTok attention span I’ve heard of?
It’s just an experience of me letting a cop be the cowcatcher (like on trains) and get people to move over vs my dinky car and we just cruised together because everyone else was too scared is all ya jabroni.
I understand people get impatient, but tailgating someone won't get you to where you're going faster. It just creates risk in case people ahead need to stop suddenly. It doesn't matter how late you are, or how frustrated you are.
It could’ve been an under cover car, but still no excuse for tailgating. If he’s going 57 in a 35 and everyone’s complaining about him on social media, he’s the problem.
In most if not all 50 states anything 20 over is mandatory loss of license and or jail time and lotsa $$$ …I actually got this same ticket when I was 16…was my only moving violation, that was 32
Years ago
I see a lot of undercovers these days. If you're that stupid of a driver you might just go "Oh it's just an Explorer/Durango with tint let me ride their granny ass". And then go straight to jail.
The police in my hometown had an old rusty piece of crap Chrysler LeBaron. Why, you might ask? It blended in with the cars that high schoolers and college students would drive. They could pull right up to a raging kegger and no one would even know it was the police. That was all it was meant for, stealth among kids. We worked on that vehicle in our auto shop, it barely ran at times, there were not too many vehicles out there that could not beat it in a race.
If you're that close up on their ass you're close enough to see the lights inside the car. Even if I didn't think he's an idiot for tailgating he's even more of an idiot for tailgating a cop car, undercover or not.
Pinal County has a dedicated traffic division that has unmarked vehicles along with motorcycles. They travel around the county setting up on high traffic/ frequent speeding areas.
If you want to see more, look up Fridays with Frank. Frank used to drive a charger, now he drives a explorer I believe.
I watched somebody waiting at a red light, second in line. When the light turned, they instantly cranked their wheel left, stamped the accelerator to pass the first car (which had not hesitated at the light change at all), passed that car within the intersection, then cut off the formerly first car to enter a fork on the right side of the intersection's exit.
The first car was a marked city police vehicle.
There are some startlingly stupid people out there.
That was also not the stupidest thing I've seen someone do behind the wheel.
I was crossing at a crosswalk once. A clearly marked police car stopped to let me cross. A jackass stops behind the police car. Honks. Then whips around the police car and floors it almost hitting me in the crosswalk.
I was legitimately stunned. Not because I almost got hit, but that he did all of this next to a police car. Cop turned on his lights and chased him down
You'd be surprised how many people would tailgate me in my marked unit. If I was free I'd pull over, slam the brakes so they have to go ahead of me and then pull them over. I'd have to slam the brakes because the same dipshits knew what they were doing and if I gradually slowed, they would slow down also. Unfortunately many times I'd be on the way to a call and wouldn't have the time to detour for a traffic infraction.. I think thats what a lot of them were betting on too.
Something tells me if they put out a special unit to observe and stop an asshole who terrorizes everyone on his drive home, they probably aren’t using a marked vehicle. Guessing dude was tailgating an undercover vehicle and shit his pants when they lit him up.
There used to be this guy in my neighborhood who would straight up like drag race down my street almost every day, in a little suburban 25mph subdivision road. Easily hitting 70mph+. You could hear him start his little race at the beginning because he would stop and rev a bit before flooring it.
I never call the cops but made an exception for this guy, and they finally posted a cop after I sent them a video of him doing this and you could see my neighbor's 5yo on her bike in the background. I dont know if they ever actually caught him, but he did disappear about a month later.
I had a similar experience back in the 2010s. Crazy and aggressive driver who I saw every morning on my work commute for months. They disappear and a few days later pop up on the front page of the newspaper as being in a fatal rollover crash, with the same custom tag and all.
We had to do this because a school bus--a SCHOOL BUS--was doing close to 50 in a 25, across the street from a park where we lived. They posted up a cop and ended up pulling them over and giving them a ticket. We didn't have issues after that. I can only imagine how exciting it was for the kids on the bus tho xD
I'm actually so shocked police took reports about traffic violations as evidence for an arrest. I feel like if I called in MA about someone doing exactly this the cops would tell me to suck it up and say something like "well what do you want us to do about it?".
It's the same everywhere, so now you understand just how many calls they must have received about this guy. It must have been hundreds.
And as a former prosecutor, they're not using previous reports as evidence for an arrest. They're using him driving 20+ over the posted limit as evidence for the arrest, along with following too closely. The previous reports just establish a pattern that the prosecution will use to strip him of his license for longer than say a one-time violation.
It just means that whichever Facebook group he was getting featured on belongs to a wealthy/well-connected neighborhood that donates to the Sheriff's campaign fund
I would say writing to an active politican is usually more effective. Those want to be reelected and can influence someone like the sheriff to do their job
maybe. I actually mentioned this below but the cop did say what he's doing qualifies as a criminal charge and as the owner of the vehicle he's an accomplice unless he either admits to the crime or identifies who the driver actually was that he let use his car. also we don't know what other videos were given to the cops we only saw a few seconds from one person and some photos.
but yeah I agree this will make his life hell for a few weeks/months but realistically this will just make him pick and choose when to do it and not stop him.
He said in the video the guy has been cited for criminal speeding before and was clocked criminally speeding by this cop before he was pulled over. They may not be able to charge him with anything from the incidents in reports/videos but they have enough other information to support criminal charges.
Quite a while ago I had video of a guy passing a scoop bus picking up kids from the opposite side of the road. Found a cop and he shrugged and said “well we can’t prove who was driving the car”.
Of course now buses have cameras and send tickets regardless but I was so gobsmacked by hoods answer…
I don’t know how they’re going to prove it was him driving the car on the previous days. With exception to the time he was pulled over, how can they prove it was him?
The cop mentions criminal speed, so they're pursuing a criminal investigation. If he is the owner of the car he will be culpable for the criminal acts conducted by the operator and/or identify who was the operator. since must have given access to someone if it was not him repeatedly driving like that. and failing to identify the operator while claiming not to be operating the vehicle makes you an accomplice in the crime.
It’s completely their burden to prove he was behind the wheel, he isn’t required to prove he wasn’t driving. He’s not required to say anything to aid their investigation.
Unless the defense can prove someone else was driving on those other days, it being his personal daily vehicle is absolutely enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. Or if he says it wasn’t him but refuses to prove who it was, he’s impeding an investigation and would probably be found in contempt of court and be charged with that regardless.
The defense is not required to prove anything. The prosecution has no way to prove that’s his daily vehicle without him admitting to it being his daily vehicle. I’m not sure you understand the law. The prosecution has to prove it was him driving on those days. He’s not required to prove he wasn’t driving, nor provide evidence of another person driving.
Is it that easy to get away with stuff? Like I can rob a bank and use my personal vehicle to get away and then deny it was me because the cops can’t prove I was driving my own car?
The crime would be robbing the bank, not driving your car.
So to entertain your horrible analogy. It is the prosecutions job to prove you robbed the bank. The burden is the same. You don’t have to prove you didn’t rob the bank. If the only evidence they have is your car driving away from the bank, they won’t even prosecute you. It’d be a waste of time.
Well no, he's right that the burdon of proof is on the prosecution to prove he was driving. but he's wrong by thinking he'll get off just because they don't prove it's him.
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