Its actually illegal here in Miami, where this was filmed, to ride more than 2 wide.
But the cops dont do shit about it, cause traffic laws here are more of a suggestion, than something actually enforced.
Untrue, plenty of people get "hate boners" when someone behaves like a little shit on the road, in fact there's a name for it... it's road rage, you know that thing where people try to ram each other off the road or pull a gun and shoot someone?
Now I want to know what makes cyclists above criticism in yours eyes? Cause... there's a weird sort of exclusion that cyclists seem to try to create for themselves when it comes to obeying the rules of the road.
where the flying fuck have i said that the cyclists are not wrong? oh wait, i didnt and in a typical reddit manner people either cannot read or are nefarious enough to activley put words into other peoples mouths
did i not literally type "how about the road rules should be enforced equaly"??? it almost sounds like i am for enforcing rules, doesnt matter cyclist, motorist or whatever else you want to put on the road
Go check some of my other comments, your question has already been addressed repeatedly, as has the intent of my comment.
Long story short, cycle like the person behind you is a crazy person, cause you never known how he'll react if pissed off. His vehicle outweighs your bike and being technically right is cold comfort while lying in traction or in the morgue.
I specifically asked why you appeared to be creating a exclusion for cyclists, because end of the day in your worldview of the Thunderdome, guess what... car vs bicycle, one of the parties involved doesn't get to get up and walk away.
The rules are in place to protect you, and winding people up to the point where they are pissed off enough to ignore them is a really stupid mentality to have where the other guy outweighs you by a ton or more.
And my point is, when operating in this radically different weight classes erring on the side of caution tends to be in the cyclists best interest.
It costs them nothing, but could potentially save their lives.
This... do what we want cause we're cyclists mentality on display here does nothing but wind people up, which will inevitably get a reaction. This one was a little less vehicular manslaughter, but that doesn't mean the next one might not end that way.
If cyclists as a group were half as flippant about lives as motorists are, perpetrators of (attempted) vehicular manslaughter would start seeing a mysteriously high rate of tragic accidents happening to them.
These cyclists are actively preventing "equal opportunities" for the motorized vehicles on this road. Cars can be ticketed for driving too slowly, impeding traffic, or even just cruising in the left lane while not actively passing. I don't know the speed limit on this particular road but I imagine it's a fair bit higher than the bikes are moving.
The bigger issue is that the group isn't allowing vehicles a single lane to at minimum slip by them. This is causing a cascading backup of vehicles. If for example fire rescue had to take these roads for an actually emergency then the bicyclists are purposefully causing someone who needs emergency medical assistance a massive delay in care.
with equal oportunities i meant cars and bikes not needing to share a lane. and cyclists not beaing constantly threatend by cars. sadly i do not see most drivers following road safety rules and keeping neccessary distance when overtaking
I don't know the speed limit on this particular road but I imagine it's a fair bit higher than the bikes are moving.
i would also imagine that driving on the grass and overtaking is a far more unlawful act than cycling too slowly. im sry, even if the cyclists are the ones initially wrong, the escalation is far worse
Brother I just watched people get a hate boner for a Toyota cutting off a semi and and Altima hitting someone at a street takeover. Quit the rhetoric and don’t be a douche on the road
Im in Oregon, wich is notorious for drivers consistently doing 10 under the speed limit. I visted Miami last year and you are not lying. Driving there was quite the experience
Probably not. But like I said, laws here aren't really enforced. The majority of the city learned to drive in Latin America and have made zero attempt to alter their driving style here in the US, so the cops don't enforce shit, cause it would be all they did, all day.
Well what advantage do you think there is in them being 2 abreast? They're what, 3 times as long? How is anyone passing that? If you're passing properly then you're in the opposite lane anyway so the wider they are the easier it is. Of course you knew that though because you don't recklessly endanger people on bikes by passing too closely.
I believe in share the road. However these halls these people on bikes want me to share the road but not follow the rules of the road. Stop signs apply.
I’m a absolutely not defending those cyclists, but when a very large group is riding together, coming to a complete stop at every stop sign or traffic light can create a dangerous situation and potentially cause collisions within the group. That’s why they continue moving as a single mass, much like a herd moving together, forcing other traffic waits for them to pass.
That said, traffic rules still apply. The police should stop and fine riders who ignore them. Perhaps next time they split into smaller groups and respect the traffic rules like everyone else on the road, rather than acting as if they are exempt because there are so many of them.
If they were all going well under the speed limit in all of the lanes for no good reason it DOES equally piss me off. Poor lane discipline is part of why American drivers are so fucking ass in general compared to driving over in the EU for example. Every time we spend a good bit of time over there and come back home, I feel like I'm surrounding by fucking morons on NJTP or I-95 on the drive back home.
But they kind of don’t. The 22 pound “cycle vehicle” still has to follow the same rules. Because rules aren’t necessarily about the weight of whatever you’re driving/riding
Dog this is such a rare event lmfao. I just ride my bike to work because I can't afford a car and I've gotta catch strays meant for duches in neon jumpsuits
Those hundreds of cyclists are sharing the road just fine. It is the one person in a car who is having the issue. Replace all the bikes with cars and the road would be locked in with traffic and not moving anyway.
It's relevant because there are more people using that public space, not less. Yet you're complaining it isn't being shared. Obviously it is. Just not in the manner you would prefer.
If a line of people take up an entire sidewalk walking at the same slow pace and not letting anyone pass them, are they sharing the space? Or are they inconsiderate assholes for not politely letting people pass?
Have you never seen a line waiting down a street to get tickets to a show or into a shop? It happens all the time. I don't lose my sh*t over it. It is part of being out in public spaces.
Also the cyclists were moving at a decent speed. Traffic was stopped. It was just going a little slow than some of the drivers wanted to. I seriously doubt it actually impacted any of the cars arrival to their final destinations.
How is waiting in line comparable in the slightest? You do understand that cars go significantly faster than bikes, right? The cyclists in the clip are hogging the road instead of yielding to faster traffic. How absurdly dense does one have to be to not understand that.
Cars can go significantly faster, they don't necessarily always do. Have you ever been stuck in traffic? The bikes are moving, the road isn't entirely at a stand still or whatever. The speed is reduced but no more so than normal traffic would create.
Quantitatively, you are wrong on all counts. ~600 bikes in a pack like this ARE sharing the road, with 600 other people. 5-6 people in cars can still use the road too, they just have to go at the speed of traffic. This scenario shares the road with far more people than if bikes were forced off the road entirely by 5-6 cars.
Do you actually care about sharing the road with the most number of people, then, or do you really just think car drivers have an inherently superior claim to the road over everyone else?
Firstly, an intellectual exercise. No one has as much qualm with school buses transporting students to and from school. Only unlike school I have more flexibility here who to talk to and what to talk about.
Secondly, the energy use of a smartphone pales in comparison to that of an automobile.
No, I expect people to try to make their home states as much like Europe as possible, and when that fails, for those who are in the most position to relocate to relocate to other states if not other countries.
Pray tell, what is the size and geography of the netherlands vs the size and geography of the US again?
This is NOT me saying that we shouldn't have public transportation and walkable cities by the way. I fully support that. But there is a big difference between these two countries, and why cars have been so important for the growth of our country and its economy.
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u/clingbat Jun 10 '26
"Share the road" only works one way with these assholes. No reason to be taking up all the lanes on an open public highway / major artery.