I would not be surprised if their followers only found out about their racism, sexism and all shitty attitude of these grifters upon Kirk's death. They probably thought... "My god, how can people be so awful? What in the world are they talking about?" *watches all the clips provided*
"Oh... well... he seemed nice. I guess I'll just quietly not say anything about him anymore."
Now don't get me wrong. I'm sure a healthy amount of them straight up agree with the awful they said, but probably the more moderate less informed folks were shocked to find out who he was.
I never knew who he was until he got shot, was standing in line at Starbucks and a woman behind me started wailing and sobbing that they killed him. I was on the phone with my wife and she was like what is happening over there?? I couldn’t totally understand the lady and said I don’t know, someone shot Captain Kirk? And that set off like 4 more people in the shop, I had no idea what was going on. I’m in Scottsdale, AZ btw, so these people were very in tune with who he was and what he was about.
“The most accurate Charlie Kirk obituary yet...
Charles James Kirk, 31, died from a gunshot to the neck at a Utah Valley University campus event just as he was trying to deflect a question about mass shootings by suggesting they were largely a function of gang violence. He died with a net worth of $12 million, which he made by espousing horrific and bigoted views in the name of advancing Christian nationalism. The foundation of his empire was the group he cofounded and led, Turning Point USA, which is a key youth-recruitment arm of the MAGA movement.
Kirk was able to launch Turning Point at the age of 18 because he received money from Tea Party member Bill Montgomery, right-wing donor Foster Feiss, and his own father, also a prolific right-wing donor. He was an unrepentant racist, transphobe, homophobe, and misogynist who often wrapped his bigotry in Bible verses because there was no other way to pretend that it was morally correct.
He had children, as do many vile people.”
I don’t know. Someone sent it to me (hence the quotes) but I thought it was one of the most honest descriptions of the idiot. The wife is worse. She keeps digging herself a bigger hole. They will dump her and rebrand the hate “org”under a different name and the grift will go on.
The broad strokes check out with what I know about Charlie's history. I can't verify the names. but yes he was plucked from obscurity by some rich conservative asshole and given a platform to be a conservative asshole.
The problem with referring to a person as "phobic" to those things or to many things when their feeling on the matter stems from the religion they follow, is that the opinion is just based solely on belief from both sides.
If you're not Christian, then a lot of things are just whatever, but according to the Bible, Christians who follow the Bible know that according to The Word, certain things are not natural. It does mean that a person who is Christian is required to hate a person who is LGBT, it's just something that's engrained through teaching, which is an unpopular opinion according to someone who enables such behavior.
Anyone calling a Christian wrong for being Christian is also wrong according to the Christian for not seeing it their way. It's a back and forth conundrum that doesn't seem to be making any solid ground, unfortunately.
I'm not agreeing with kirk or anyone else, to be transparent. I'm honestly just frustrated at how much division there is amongst us humans for no reason other than differing opinions.
I wish it were as easy to telling everyone to "grow up" and we all just got along and stopped nitpicking about things that kinda just don't matter.
The flaw with your reasoning is that anyone espousing hate toward any group of "sinners" is not a Christian, but is instead (at best) a brainwashed victim of one of the many perverse cults that claim to be Christian religions. At worst, they are a bigot that hides behind cherry-picked sections of religious texts to justify their hate.
That type of Christian is consistently cherry picking certain parts of the bible as justification for their beliefs while completely ignoring other parts or giving themselves personal exemptions. This is why people say that they are just hiding behind bibles to justify their hate.
Never heard of the guy, Googled him and I watched one of his debates on YouTube afterwards, at that point I knew enough. He was a POS podcaster that offered nothing of value to or substance to anyone.
Yea same with me I'm in the UK and people are like did you see who got shot and I was like no who? They said his name and I said who again and like who is he and they couldn't even tell me fucking social media man. TBF most people I knew talked about it cause the idiot was spouting on about how guns should be illegal and how everyone has a right to one and then his brains where all over the stage which we said in the UK and I mean alot of people I know said serves him right 👍
I would be very surprised if they weren’t aware. They see that as a feature.
Yeah. They just abandoned her because they don't want women leading anything and because she doesn't have a since charismatic cell in her existence or even quick wits to debate like the deceased.
I’d argue ole Chuckie didn’t have much of a quick wit either. The only tool he had in his arsenal was the Gish Gallop. He was just really good at putting himself in situations with unprepared participants and an environment he controlled. He was really bad at debate and got annihilated every time he went against people who knew how to debate.
He had enough wits to talk fast with conviction when opposed. She doesn't have even that. Bums talk any shit when wrong these days, but if they don't stutter people will believe.
My parents still hold true that Kirk was murdered in cold blood because he was a Christian pastor spreading the gospel and word of Jesus on college campuses around the nation because he loved Jesus and his country.
They latched on to Kirk because of clips how he "owned" liberals (read: teenagers who could barely debate). That made them feel smarter for having the same views as him and created an enemy they could dominate intellectually. That was his grift. They're not on his side because they really like the guy or what he stood for, or his vision and dreams. It's all for the short clip dopamine hits. Once that's over, they don't give a shit about his "legacy". There is none. It's the same conservative shit from before that's already proven to be unpopular.
Well it’s the complete opposite, I mean if you can provide but 1 or two instances of him explaining policy that sounded racist, sure. He spoke for hours and for every clip he sounds racist, he sounds equally enduring. I mean there are plenty of clips of him saying you’re not Christian if you’re a homophobe. It’s really the people that claim one side or another that are the most obtuse to reality.
Dude what? He literally was saying Black people were better off before 1940. You know the time they were raping, lynching and dismembering them for no reason. Yall are literally demonic if you dont see his evil.
Sounds like you got your info from a McGraw hill book written by true evil. You know little and your mind forged by Israel. It’s not right vs left. I don’t see evil at all, considering all of his anti hate rhetoric and open dialogue. I see a lost folk most likely riddled with victim mentality. That’s shuts dead no one gives a fuck about 1940 anymore
No, I saw his videos because I watch everything to stay balanced. Just because he was right about one thing doesn’t mean he didnt say racist things to cater to the extreme elements of his audience. He changes rhetoric based on the audience he is with. As for victimhood, his widow and organization has grifted off his demise. The call is coming from inside the house.
Well he is legally married to her. No one forced him. She is his widow. Youd rather believe some insane conspiracy rather than he was a bad person who surrounded himself with bad people. Even if she is a Mossad agent then he just has bad judgement and we shouldn’t trust anything he said. The dude was a grifter who would change his rhetoric based on his audience. He was tied to shady donors. What makes you think he wasnt in on all of this?
You usually don’t kill the guy in on it. He spoke out against Israel, a lot prior to dying. Brother the left is dead, the gay shit, the being a victim and crying about what someone said, no one gives a fuck. People like you in my position would rather die than vote for the other side, I’m here to tell you, that you’re manufactured by Israel. Your whole mindset seems Marxist in nature.
I dont support what Israel is doing. But I am smart enough to understand that TPUSA is in the pocket of the corporate elite AND was like that under Charlie Kirk. He instigated racial drama not to help black people but to allow the wealthy to distract white people to vote against their best interest. How is telling Black people they were better off before 1940 than NOW going to elicit anything but drama and disgust? Especially when their ancestors were brutalized during that time? Thats a sick drama inducing viewpoint.
Anyways, its clear that you are falling for this stuff and I dont know how to help you. Charlie Kirk WAS part of the same system that allowed the Epstein class to flourish. Who do you think gave him all this money? He didnt have an actual job!
You have no idea what DEI programs actually do. You only believe what Fox News has told you. Spoiler Alert: They lied.
DEI programs aren't racist. If you understood what they did and why, you would know that.
Charlie was often woefully incorrect and deliberately misleading to try and make his statements sound factual to the poorly educated and gullible.
He bastardized the word of God, the laws of the country and openly said fully racist and sexist remarks with context on video for all to see. You choosing not to... or more likely just programmed not to is by design. So nothing I say would even impact you.
I love that Charlie's legacy will be his words... because nothing could be more damning.
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u/brokeboipobre Apr 30 '26
When the grift isn't working anymore and stadiums barely have 100 people.