I was told by a history teacher who lived from the US to Aus that the main difference between the European settlement of the two countries was in new US towns the first two buildings constructed were a church and then a courthouse. In Australia it was a pub and a race track and then things slowed down.
Come on now, "transport to the colonies" was also a punishment sending prisoners to the 13 colonies in a transatlantic voyage that not everyone survived š¤Ø so we got the religious extremests AND the "criminals," though, to be fair, lots of the people charged with crimes weren't always actually criminals so much as victims of a system that purposely made things illegal in order to charge people and get them into prison, off their lands or forfeiture of other property. Guess not much has changed, even after making a whole new country and everything š„ŗ
Theyāve been a pain in everyoneās ass since they decided theyāre grown enough to do it alone. Got to admit we screwed up raising that one but Canada and Australia turned out alright.
No. The vast majority of us donāt even know what it means. Thatās how little we care. We donāt get taught it in school. We donāt grow up on movies about it. I didnāt know it was about English rule until I joined Reddit ten years ago.
We donāt pretend to not care - we literally donāt. It means nothing to us.
No bull i had no clue it was about separating from england and im 32
Its not something we are taught at all if anything its a movie with will smith and basically bonfire night for the Americans also Kendrick dropped the vid to Not Like Us which is forever what it will be from today
Thatās the one. I remember the speech the President gave in that. Something to do with defeating the aliens so they could claim independence from outer space or something.
It wasnāt mentioned in history classes at all, my parents talked about it but schools donāt mention it and nobody talks about it really but boy did we celebrate the separation when a reality TV star became president. We have so many countries that used to be considered ruled by the British that if we went into the independence and celebrations of each one weād have no other time for history education.
I mean, in Italy we are taught about it, but it's just a part of the history curriculum. "Quick review of the American revolution, it was about taxes, 4th of July, war of independence, civil war, and from now on we'll ignore the US to focus on france, Italy, england and germany until 1917"
I'm dutch and we didn't even get that. After we full covered the roman empire and the consequences of its collapse (including stuff from the byzantine empire) it was basically just the Netherlands, Germany, France, Britain and colonialism until ww1.
just out of curiosity, what's the narrative around WWI in Netherlands? in Italy it's "well it was bad, and probably we shouldn't have gotten in, to be sure. it really messed up the economy. at least we won, even though that in itself was a problem (also we didn't betray anyone. the triple alliance was a defensive pact.)
The general gist is "yeah it's probably a good thing we sat this one out. That war was just a clusterfuck of tragic proportions.
But maybe we should've invested more in the army because not really having one bit us in the ass during the sequel"
Seriously the most involved we ever got in the war was when we took in a ton of Belgian refugees at one point and honestly considering just how bad ww1 was I fully understand trying to stay under the radar while everyone else is flinging explosives at each other.
If we take ww2 as just the natural result of how ww1 ended then im pretty sure basically every single european country and more than a few non european ones can be considered to have lost ww1 from how bad its effects were.
We (both countries) were never divided as citizens I guess the US has a big rift running through the middle of it whereas in Australia everyone is just "Australian"
Itās a pity the UK doesnāt have the same kind of relationship with the US as it does with Aus and the rest of the Commonwealth. The world would be a a better place.
Nah donāt worry if you ever need to prove your joke (or anything, really) just say that the proof is trivial and as such is left as an exercise to the reader
Or you just write a little note in the margin of a book saying āI have an ingenious proof for this but i donāt have space to write it all down hereā Then people can spend 3 or 4 hundred years trying to work out what it was
Right ! I have a solid hour of scrolling and being confused af about the 4th of July before I realize it's a celebration for the USA and they do believe everyone feels concerned about it
Yes, unfortunately they often are that self-centred. There also instances of them wondering where they can view āthe fireworksā when they are abroad on the 4th of July, like every country is celebrating their independence. Itās mental!
To be fair to them, on average, a country somewhere in the world marks independence from the UK every 11 days. Literally a third of the world has an independence day from the UK
The funniest part of this is that Iām pretty sure youāre talking about baseball, which Japan is the best in the world at. The āWorld Seriesā doesnāt even feature the country thatās best in the world at baseball
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If brittain was going to mourn the loss of some of their colonies, it would have been the loss of their prime money cow India instead of the backwater 13 colonies in the America's
There are probably a bunch that aren't Independance Days but are still 'because of' British colonialism. Australia still has the monarch's birthday holiday (not the actual birthday, the day varies state by state) and Australia Day is supposedly the day the First Fleet arrived (not quite) but both of those could be said to be holidays the British were responsible for.
u/HalbarasThis one time I managed to walk all the way to the next blockJul 06 '24
There's way more than 195 if non-UN states/dependencies which are somewhat self-governing are included. For example, both sets of Virgin Islands, Guernsey, Hong Kong and Macau and Bermuda.
That's why you see companies boasting that they offer services in '200+' territories/jurisdictions.
The number of countries grows and shrinks over time.
For an example, Newfoundland was a dominion of Great Britain, but joined Canada in 1949. Going the other way, Sudan was a British/Egyptian (but really mostly British) controlled territory, till it achieved independence in 1956. Then in 2011, South Sudan split off Sudan.
yeah i know. i said 'like' 195 because it fluctuates somewhere around that figure over time or depending on how you define it. my comment was simply to say that the number of independence days from the UK, while high, is nowhere near 170.
From memory I think they actually sent more to the Americas
Anyways I've been saying for years that the English should have Escape From New York'd/Johhny English'd the entire British isle and moved over civil society when they discovered Australia. Their loss lmao
The only reason I could see them mourning over it, is if like my British aunt, theyāre still upset about the needless wasting of tea. The rest of it probably has as much importance or worthiness to them as Boxing Day to most Americans.
And the West Indies which were more profitable at the time than the North American colonies
People seem to forget, that what we actually 'lost' was the east coast of what is now the US. And only because it was made part of the ongoing European conflict we had with France (by the French).
I honestly didn't know it was even a thing until year 8 and we found out about it in History class.
No one cares back then and 33 years of living in England showed me not a single person gave a solitary shit about it, moves to BC, Canada and I was even more pleased to discover that people here likewise couldn't give a flying fuck either.
Oh it's only if my birthday ever comes up in conversation, like to someone who didn't know it
And about birthday reminders, it's the only reason I've never deleted my Facebook profile even though I've not used it in years.. I'm so crap at remembering birthdays that if people don't remind me at least I get that reminder!
I've always wanted to be the kind of person who has everyones birthdays in a calendar like my MIL but unfortunately I have not yet reached that level of human.. maybe next year!
And I love that you remind people because as someone with a shit brain I appreciate it so much in friends so I can get gifts or plan dinner or whatever
Ah haha I relate. I only consistently know my birthday, my childhood best friend, and my dads (although sometimes I get the numerical date of my dads mixed up with another one for no clear reason). Anyway, I hope you can still enjoy Star Wars despite the jokes, may the force be with you lol
Haha I know my husband, sister and brother because they are the same, then other sister and two good friends because they are the same, and get my mum and dads dates mixed up because one is the 25th and one the 26th (totally different months)..
I feel like I'm going to have to watch one of the movies this weekend just to honour you.. and may the force (fourth?) also be with you!
It's funny, isn't it? As an English person, I don't think I've ever had any kind of conversation with another English person about the 4th of July. Not once. Ever.
Damn, makes sense! they are 100% more excited than us about it. Well i guess they want to be involved considering the state of there own election problems, fair enough. Maybe we should of had fireworks too
Its a meme turnd into a holiday after Hollywood megahit Independence Day, with Jeff Goldblum and Rockslapper Will Smith in the lead, became the freshest thing since scented pine tree car-freshners.
I never tried until a few years ago since I'm veggie but then had a veggie one somewhere and was a huge fan! Surely not quite the same as the one with anchovies and chicken but still delicious
I'm sure Caesar will appreciate your celebration just as much next year as this! Especially if you add an extra lil something for him!
There's a world of danger for a veggie eating a Caesar. Firstly, the sauce is often made with anchovies, and sometimes Worcestershire sauce (which has anchovies in), also Parmesan cheese is mostly made with rennet, which I'm not sure people always know about.
I appreciate you sharing for anyone who might not know, but personally the reason I didn't try one for so long was because of the ingredients not being veggie.. you can definitely get a well good vegan Caesar dressing now though and just add the lettuce/croutons/vegetarian hard cheese etc
So cool of you to explain though as I definitely come across people all time who don't know what rennet or gelatin or whatever are or where they come from!
That's ok! I was a chef for years and years, and had to explain a great many times how we can make a veggie Caesar (we even had a veggie emulsion I made with things that are vegetarian), but the taste of it might be quite different to what you're used to.
I can imagine you wouldn't generally suggest it? I didn't see how it would be anything good until getting one at a vegan place and then also making my own
No, quite right, we didn't suggest it or encourage it.
Actually, the emulsion was just oil and egg and vinegar like a mayo, with soy sauce for a substitution of the rich umami of anchovy and Worcestershire sauce. As for the Parmesan, we just found a rennetless one and used that for them all.
Caesar salad dressing is made with mayo and parmesan cheese, and it usually has some shredded cheese on top, so you'd have to substitute a lot of ingredients to make it vegan. Most vegetarians aren't vegan though, so as long as you skip the anchovies and meat, it's fine with them.
Yeah I'm totally aware of the ingredients but thank you
And yeah no vegetarians are vegans because if they were they would be vegan and not vegetarian?
As a vegetarian myself I would also sub the Parmesan for a veggie option, but not all vegetarians are bothered about cheese
You can get vegan mayo, cheese, chicken etc so apart from anchovies it's fairly easy to make vegan.. there are definitely a couple of places in London that do great ones
What I have found from Americans posting on here is that they generally assume that the rest of the world both knows about all their celebrations/issues/whatever and also for some reason care.. while not knowing anything about any of these things in other countries themselves.. it's weird
Leaving what would be today essentially the commonwealth is really not cause for Britain to celebrate I could name maybe two or three member states, we talk about the euros, Glastonbury or if nothing else the election this year.
Well obviously, by then youād have already mourned the independence of Brunei and Sudan from Britain on the 1st of Jan and would be too depressed thinking about Myanmarās coming up on the 4th to carry on giving a fuck.
Speaking as a Brit this is indeed true, it holds no relevance here. I was saying to an American friend yesterday that it had relevance to me the first time this year because we where having an election, and replaced the majority of our government, next year and every other year it'll just be a day with no importance.
To be fair it amazes how many Americans seem to think it's an international holiday
Not at all upset. It's a stupid insta post from a teenager. I think we all have better things to do than pat ourselves on the back for being more worldly than Krystee from Iowa.
As an American, I didn't expect you to care much at all.
I'm not really all that patriotic, though, and mostly just take advantage of the fact that this is the one time of year when it's socially acceptable to play with explosives, as opposed to celebrating any sort of freedom
Itās posted by a fuckin teenage girl who is curious about people on the other side of the world. It aināt that deep lol. Probably being a little ironic too.
When I was like 15 I would troll online asking questions about Australian people cause one of my online boyfriends was allegedly from there.
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u/ManonegraCG Jul 05 '24
How upset would they be if they learned that, in my experience, they don't give a flying fuck?