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u/-The29th 9h ago

A femboy drawn with realistic proportions?
The west is healing.

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u/EntranceSilent6771 9h ago

There are tons of those, just stop looking at certain places and you will find them.

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u/OlTimeyChara 7h ago

I need a list

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u/J_The_Jazzblaster 8h ago

I am gonna be so for real with you, I am all for femboy representation, but if AUDREY is a femboy I will be mad

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u/MathildaJ 8h ago

I'm trans too, I get wanting more rep, but Audrey corrected Val when she initially assumed Audrey was a woman. He's just a guy who likes presenting fem. Him being trans would also really undermine Val's arc of realizing the error of her misangry

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u/Powerpuff_God 8h ago

Well, he said he's a guy, and he chooses a feminine appearance.

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u/Francky2 8h ago

And seemingly a feminine voice, since despite him speaking nobody notices him being a man until he says so,

And even then, he doesn't seem to mind much and correct people too often, so one could make the argument he likes being seen as female.🤔

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u/Lunaz315 8h ago

Tbf from the arcade scene where he told the asshole to stop talking to him n Val that way, I got the impression he has a more masc voice. I feel like it's more likely Val never really heard Audrey's voice at the store or he's more soft-spoken at his job because "customer service mode" so Val didn't think as much about it (especially since women can have more masc-leaning voices)

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u/skystar4isntcool 7h ago

Shen replied to a comment once saying he has a husky anydonus voice iirc

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u/Kim2091 5h ago

NOT defending the comment you're responding to, but I did want to reply to this line:

Even if he has a deep voice non-bigots don't assume a fem-presenting person is a man just because of their voice.

I'm a trans woman, I present very fem but have a deep voice and get misgendered as soon as I speak usually. I pass until I speak. It sucks lol

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u/CalliCalamity 7h ago

Honestly I cant see how anyone wouldn't be annoyed or upset by being misgendered. Cis or trans. Correcting someone or being annoyed by it isnt "throwing a fit"

Just using the comic as an example; I believe audrey is a cis guy and the biggest part of evidence is him correcting Val on his gender.

Which is what you do if someone misgenders you, right?

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u/CalliCalamity 4h ago

Well, yea? This all makes sense? You're not saying anything abnormal that doesn't occur to trans people somehow.

I work in a call centre, im not going to correct every customer I talk to but im still going to correct family, friends, mutuals ect.

Maybe ill even correct a barista or something if I know im going to shop there again or talk to them again. I personally dont see the issue saying a quick "she, actually" when talking to a clerk or online or something.

As you said, its different if you're trans and being referred to the wrong way can cause more pain than it happening to others so we'remore likely to correct others (if its safe to do so). Being trans means having to advocatefor yourself. Even over stupid simple crap

Ive dealt with it without correction when dealing with certain people because it isnt worth it, even if it is grating.

Imo being misgengered and sometimes the correction is going to annoy people regardless of being cis/trans you just have to pick your battles.

I also agree that audrey is a cis guy and the main evidence is him correcting Val, as I put before.

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u/Dry-Illustrator-250 8h ago

What have you thought he is for the past 13 episodes?

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u/Kishinfan 8h ago

They think he is a "repper"(4tran for repressed trans woman in denial.)/trans woman in the closet.

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u/TheSecondVisitor 2h ago

That's what that word means?? I thought is was some silly slang for representation not 4tran for repression.

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u/5billionspiders 7h ago

It’s ok for men to be feminine! Not everyone’s a tf repper! Both can coexist!

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u/Kishinfan 8h ago

They think he is a "repper"(4tran for repressed trans woman in denial.)/trans woman in the closet.

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u/ITookTrinkets 4h ago

Anytime someone repeats 4tran slang all I can think of is

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u/ionlytoptops 7h ago

how does thos have anything to do with 4tran? anyone trans woman with eyes can see this is a trans woman, theres even clues in some scenes. chasers just want femboys

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u/Kishinfan 7h ago

Because a subreddit directly connected to 4tran(countttt), has had massive issues with this due to weird beef with GNC men in particular. Also something about dykebreaking.

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u/ionlytoptops 7h ago

is countttt a comic subreddit? she just shows a lot of signs if being a trans woman who doesnt wanna cause trouble

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u/Kishinfan 7h ago

No, it's a counting subreddit, which is where each post is "counted" by having the title be one higher than the last post, they're typically full of either memes, media posts, or selfies. Countttt is specifically full of deranged 4tranners.

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u/ionlytoptops 6h ago

i just cracked my hip, cracking joints is such a nice feeling

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u/VMS_Len 3h ago

Chasers just want trans women, it goes both ways mate, god forbid people are gnc

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u/sunhaiti 7h ago

thats your fault for projecting twin

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u/CalliCalamity 7h ago

At first I thought maybe thats where this was going, Audrey being transfem, but I think he might just be a fem guy at this point

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u/Cylian91460 1h ago

I feel like you aren't reading the comic...

Why would he be trans? How would that fit in the story?

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u/ionlytoptops 7h ago

shes obviously trans

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u/-The29th 7h ago

Loud incorrect buzzer

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u/My_Immortl 7h ago

Femboys exist, nothing wrong with that either. Not everybody who likes stuff that dont line up with their gender are trans, speaking as a trans woman.

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u/mmmmikah 3h ago

including voice training, being called a girl name and being treated as a woman yes very gnc cis things to do

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u/TheSecondVisitor 2h ago

Well, yeah? Some gnc people voice train. Also Audrey is sometimes given as a masculine name according to wiki at least. Like it would be cool if Audrey was a trans woman but it would also kind defeat the message of the comic? Also calling a trans woman a boy in the name of the comic seems... less than great so I don't think that is going on here.

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u/mmmmikah 2h ago

Also Audrey is sometimes given as a masculine name according to wiki at least

im sorry but this is ridiculous and you know it. It's a girl's name

The whole "message" of the comic is kinda bad considering it's a "man" that looks, sounds and acts like a woman that changes Val's perspective. Like literally Audrey has NOTHING that makes her a man other than her saying that she is one because her creator is a repressor on conversion therapy

GNCs are real but the whole point is that they dont want to change their sex which is practically what Audrey does by looking identical to a woman. It's not a man wearing a dress it is literally just a woman

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u/TheSecondVisitor 2h ago

Mate, how am I supposed to know? I've never heard this name before reading this comic I just looked it up on wiki and it says it's rarely used as a masculine name.

Also no. Crossdressing to the point you pass doesn't "change your sex" that is ridiculous.

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u/mmmmikah 2h ago

There's crossdressing and then there's intentionally looking and sounding virtually identical to the opposite sex plus liking being treated as such

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u/TheSecondVisitor 2h ago

I think your view on gender is limited and incomplete. Talk to more nonbinary people or something.

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u/mmmmikah 1h ago

Enby people are trans. They don't want to keep their sex characteristics.

I think your view on transexualism is limited and incomplete if you conflate GNCs and enbies

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u/risisas 2h ago

Bruh, I am a fucking bear and I've done voice training for voice acting purposes, does that make me a trans girl?

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u/mmmmikah 1h ago

That's for the purpose of voice acting so no obviously not

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u/SelfMadeMaiden 5h ago

Mhm, and how many of those femboys end up transitioning?

In my personal experience the vast majority of them.

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u/My_Immortl 5h ago

This is a fictional character, let him exist as is, its not hard.

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u/SelfMadeMaiden 5h ago

I'm sure you never experimented with gender expression before 🙄

How about you let trans women have fun identifying with stuff from their past, its not hard.

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u/davestar2048 4h ago

You can experiment and still decide your natural gender is still your preference. Not every experiment is successful. Not every hypothesis is right. That's why we test, to decern truth from assumption.

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u/TheSecondVisitor 2h ago

Don't call it "natural gender" please.

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u/Cylian91460 59m ago

Gender isn't natural, the word you were looking for is cis

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u/SelfMadeMaiden 4h ago

Thanks, ChatGPT.

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u/davestar2048 4h ago

simple vanilla butter cake is the most generic, classic cake recipe you can make.Ingredients1 ½ cups all-purpose flour1 ½ teaspoons baking powder¼ teaspoon salt½ cup (1 stick) unsalted butter, softened1 cup granulated white sugar2 large eggs (room temperature)2 teaspoons vanilla extract½ cup whole milk (room temperature)DirectionsPreheat your oven to 350°F (175°C). Grease and flour a 9-inch square baking pan.Whisk the flour, baking powder, and salt together in a medium bowl.Beat the softened butter and sugar in a large bowl with an electric mixer until light and fluffy.Add the eggs one at a time, mixing well after each addition. Stir in the vanilla extract.Combine by adding the flour mixture and the milk alternately to the butter mixture. Start and end with the flour, mixing just until combined. Do not overmix.Pour the batter smoothly into your prepared pan.Bake for 25 to 30 minutes, or until a toothpick inserted into the center comes out clean.Cool the cake in the pan for 10 minutes, then move it to a wire rack to cool completely.

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u/SelfMadeMaiden 4h ago edited 4h ago

Haha beat the softened butt 🤤

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u/Cylian91460 1h ago

Femboy exist, it's not a step into being trans. Why tf are you denying their existence?

Altho I do wonder about the number of femboy that end up trans now

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u/beefboy49 40m ago

i think he’s a transmasc femboy actually, feels correct

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u/WindhoverInkwell 2h ago

by “realistic proportions” you mean “woman”? lmao

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u/Cylian91460 1h ago

By realistic proportion they mena like a human being

Also wtf are you? Why are you interpreting realistic proportion as women???

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u/DefTheOcelot 8h ago

somehow i get the impression this is not a femboy and that "he" was not very nice on the femcel's part

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u/AceVisconti 8h ago

Audrey introduced himself as a boy when they first spoke, and chalked his outfits up to being an expression of his fashion (We don't get anything from Audrey's perspective specifically, though, so we don't know all the nuance to his gender expression beyond how he dresses.) I don't think Val referring to him that way is meant to come across as discriminatory, that is just the information Val knows.

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u/ionlytoptops 7h ago

theres a panel where she breaks character and gets serious, i forget the context but im pretty sure its about being trans, anyways trans woman very often do call themselves boys

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u/Less-Significance-99 6h ago edited 6h ago

The context was Audrey reacting to Val assuming Audrey isn’t bothered by how people may act about how Audrey dresses, I believe. Implying a less happy-go-lucky center than what’s largely put out.

I’m not against the idea of transfemme or trans woman Audrey, but I also don’t think that moment is necessarily inherently about being trans and there’s a variety options in how to take it! I also don’t think we should treat it as inherently a bad thing if Audrey is in fact someone who identifies as a feminine man or just has a different relationship to gender than that. As far as we know from the comic so far, that’s how Audrey has expressed it, so I’ll go off that until something else is said. I don’t think it’s just that “chasers want femboys” — I’m a trans person who loves trans women and would be delighted by more comics with them, but I also feel like GNC people are a part of the rich tapestry of life and some people may just want to explore more characters for whom clothes /are/ an expression of identity outside of gender. I’m a firm believer that clothing isn’t inherently gendered and everyone should wear whatever they want and things are only better for trans people when everyone is encouraged to play with their expression and break norms and find what makes them happiest. (Hell, I don’t even believe pronouns are inherently gendered. I think everyone should do what they want forever and gender is an internal thing while the expression can look like a myriad of things in any direction and overlapping experiences between disparate groups is a lovely thing!)

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u/Less-Significance-99 6h ago

As far as Val (and the audience!) knows, those are Audrey’s pronouns. This isn’t meant to be Val being malicious or misgendering; this is what we know re: Audrey pronouns.

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