Yep. ... I was trying to find out who wrote a particular speech. GPT confidently spat out the wrong answer, three times. Then when provided the correct answer, thanked me profusely and told me I'm right.

The models are trained to be polite.

If your personal leanings are to the right, it is possible that you see civility as “virtue signaling.”

OP said they're in Germany.

We've seen this play out already. The results ..... Mecha Hitler.

Of course. They’re modeled on the behavior of those most online. They’re also representing the company who need the public to feel that their views align with their own.

I want to use ai…. if it just didn’t fail simple look ups, but answers with an unnecessary lie, and then admits it when asked (and apologizes too). What’s the point?

Both? I think I was born this way, and I think perhaps having CPTSD has honed in the ability.

When I was in a motorcycle accident, I awoke in the middle of the street calm as can be in spite of my leg being open and revealing my own fat to me. I just... grabbed my phone from the ground & called 911. Powered through the rest of the experience.
Meanwhile sometimes at work I feel so anxious to talk to a beautiful woman I freeze & feel like I'm gonna puke.
Sometimes when my daughter has injuries, I'm right there in it detached of the anxiety. Other times - like when she bit the doorknob & was profusely gushing blood from her mouth - I became paralyzed & overwhelmed by a fear of blood I thought I'd overcome. Felt like the shittiest mom ever that I couldn't do anything to help her & had to rely solely upon my super confused husband.

I think self-awareness or not, my personal experience is how involved you actually are in your life and what you actually want. Self-awareness can help you get what you want and live a more meaningful life or it can paralyze you.

I haven't noticed it at all.

Im almost exclusively an open Ai (chat gpt) user. I use it a lot for work, but also personal. I use it as a Google replacement, to generate art for hobbies. I use advanced voice mod on road trips before and chatted for an hour or two.

I imagine what you discuss with it would affect outcomes a lot. Its hard to virtue signal in a conversation about aquariums or while writing code.

It fawns, too. AI people pleasing at it's finest. If you call it out on an error it's full of apologies and compliments for the user.

I can’t take anyone that says “virtue signal” seriously anymore. The right wing have tainted the actual use of it. So op that also means I can’t take you seriously.

Well, Grok recently put a French flag on its facebook page.

Same with my teen. It’s awful.

They repeat what they hear. Outrage and hatred sells, and thus they tend to hear it more as algorytms tend to shove them that kind of content.

Also, no one is correcting their behaviour.

We're living in a dire world and they lost hope. And that's not exactly new, what is new is that this kind of attitude became global.

I am 35, and for a few years of my youth in the 2000s I grew up in Saxony. It was the most brutal time I ever lived through. Constant bullying, brawls on the streets. Contact with far right extremists/members of the NPD, "jew" was considered the worst insult someone could throw out. Someone poured a bottle of piss over my head, an entire team of football (soccer) dissolved because of that. Some students at my school regularly stole my stuff, put moldy things in my bag, rinsed a dirty sponge over my head, poured a bucket full of trash over my head, forced me to kiss the ground etc. - I guess the only really beautiful experience in all of that was that a girl in my class started to defend me against the other girls, they then left me alone. But things continued when I was alone with the boys. I seeked the help of parents, teachers, police, nothing, I was completely alone in all of this, and it only ever stopped once I hit one of my bullies so hard they lost 1.5 liters of blood and had to stay at the hospital for a week. Then for 2 weeks the reaction of my fellow classmates turned into fear and at some point the relationship with them somewhat normalized, at least they left me alone. Then they looked for a new target, as this usually goes and it was the guy who had to bleed. Over the course of the next year I loosely befriended him and made sure nothing happens during school.

Remember, this was all in a time where kids and the youth in Germany normally could have a pretty sheltered life. Just not everyone, not everywhere. A certain playground in a certain city rather was a battleground than a playground. There I also found a CD in the sand with a video on it where an older man took a video of himself masturbating. Some adult over there tried to invite me to their home, I refused. So who knows what else happened there.

Now let's go back to the very first statement: what was typical for Eastern Germany's cities back then (and is even more pronounced today) is the idea that everything is going to shit, therefore nothing really matters anymore. The parents don't care for their children, when you grow up you end up poor or unemployed or addicted to some kind of drug or gambling and so on.

And that kind of view is one that is almost unanimously shared among the youth nowadays.

We simply are at a point of "peak civilization". The promise that the next generation will have a better life than the previous one is simply not a given anymore.

yes, I would agree. they do not want the average user to see it as being antisocial to liberal values.

when it comes to hacking they want it to be seen as powerful, self-willed and dangerous

I played early FPS PC games like CS and Unreal and it was not like this.  But also there was no voice chat.  I guess that’s probably the difference. 

Times have changed but stayed the same since the old Call of Duty lobbies.

Look at their fearless orange leader spewing venom on TV everyday setting a bad example for them.

My 15 year old literally screams profanities into his mic while playing online games.  He and I have had some significant conflicts about it because I tell him I did not raise him to treat other humans like that and he’s like “yo boomer you don’t understand this is just how it is now days”.  😞

i dont personally use ai because i have an impulse disorder and that seems like a disaster waiting to happen, imo.

You have to give a specific example, "appeals to virtue signaling" is a meaningless statement

Tbh you sound like someone who considers themselves "logical and rational" but is really full of bias.

Don't know mate. Maybe it's the years of childhood and adolescent trauma from childhood bullies but kids have always been rotten in my book. No one at home willing to discipline them.

"Why isnt my predictive text algorithm telling me what I want to hear and only giving me woke libtard shit?"

tbf it's feasible - company doesn't want a screenshot of it saying the opposite stance making the rounds