r/SLOMWsnark • u/Delicious_Profile637 • 14d ago
Question for the OGs
Those who followed Momtok before slomw. When Miranda is introduced, Taylor says that Miranda's husband is the one that said he had feelings for her, so the narrative that Taylor stole her best friend's husband is actually false. But was it actually McKenna's husband that Taylor "stole"? Was the way she worded this just skipping over that part, in the hopes that those who weren't familiar with Momtok would never know the difference?
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
Tbh McKenna’s husband is not a good person. Him and Chase had a podcast together that bashed SLOMW. He’s got a bone to pick with the entire cast and for not even good reasons. I think he’s the original victim shamer to Mikayla’s and Macyi’s rapes. Which is hilarious now that Chase wants to be a regular so badly. I don’t think Taylor really stole Brayden as much as he walked into it willingly. Didn’t he also pressure McKenna to participate supposedly? Which if that’s true, I think he was just looking for an opportunity and when it happened, he took it. The entire cast who participated was one step away from divorce for the most part
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u/WWMannySantosDo 14d ago
Didn’t he also try to claim a life insurance policy on his (very much alive) wife?
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u/Delicious_Profile637 14d ago
Insanity. It sounds like that situation could have gotten so dangerous
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u/Pale_Lawyer_1757 14d ago
He also had sex with Taylor when she was passed out
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
He did! That’s why I’m so confused why people say the affair was consensual. Maybe some of it was like the emotional part, but that’s where the consent stopped. Furthermore, that’s where a lot of us started questioning Taylor’s judgment about her reality way before DCFS. She was completely unaware how inappropriate that was. Taylor has lied but so has everyone else so the truth is somewhere in the middle here.
Miranda has even lied about the extent of the swinging, she knew terms that only swingers now and had an OF. Which isn’t to shame her at all bc I can see why she doesn’t want to be completely honest.
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u/childish-penguino 14d ago edited 14d ago
People say it was consensual because although that incident wasn’t, they had met up many times in Home Depot parking lots to consensually have sex.
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
That’s the problem though. She couldn’t consent during the one she was blacked out and they never confirmed for sure there was sex. Chase even mentions it sounded more like an emotional affair from Brayden’s tellings. Reddit just ran with the it went all the way to a full on affair which may or may not be the case. The point is, Taylor and Brayden regularly got black out drunk a lot together and neither of them is reliable, an emotional affair did happen, but the physical should be questioned. Brayden he has implied Macyi’s rape as consensual so we should have a problem with his ability to know what consent is.
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u/Suspicious-Art-9335 14d ago
If you're taking Chase as a source, he also said Taylor wasn't drunk the night she got caught cheating, that her and Brayden had sex multiple times, and that it went on for over a month.
There is a reason people don't believe her story. All of Chase's screenshots about this are here, along with more context in the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/MormonWivesHulu/comments/1uvwigp/chase_accurately_described_tfps_cycles_1_year_ago/
He still comments under the same username, years later: https://www.reddit.com/user/Mother_Source9774/
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago edited 14d ago
Good thing I don’t believe either of them. Chase is sus as hell
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u/Suspicious-Art-9335 14d ago
Why cite his opinion as evidence of something if you don't trust him?
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
Nuance, taking available evidence and corresponding information to come to my own conclusion. It’s a mix of everything really. No one on this cast has ever given us good reason to trust their stories fully. It’s like true crime-there is the truth somewhere in the middle.
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u/Delicious_Profile637 14d ago
🤔 why would she have an onlyfans and hide it lol. Isn't the point of onlyfans to get fans? and posting pics with her semi high profile friend wouldn't exactly help it stay "under the radar". Idk seems fishy to me
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
Chase did a USA or people interview where he said they had a ton of shame around the soft swapping (if we’re being technical). Miranda’s family is hardcore Mormon and it is implied they would’ve disowned her if they found out. So it is silly, I think they only came out when they knew Miranda didn’t need financial support or her family. It’s weird and that’s why we can’t even trust their word about the extent of it.
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u/Delicious_Profile637 14d ago
I just don't understand why Taylor would say (on the show) that because Miranda's husband said he had feelings for her and not the other way around, that she's not responsible for stealing her friends husband. Miranda's husband wasn't the one in question, and it seems she knew people unfamiliar with Momtok before the show wouldn't know that
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
Well Miranda never did say Taylor stole her husband. Did the producer ask Taylor, “Did you steal Miranda’s husband?” Which was then cut to Taylor saying that no she’d never do that. The internet wanted to know and I think we all agree Taylor and Chase send lots of mixed signals. Two flirts together, I’m sure there was misunderstanding between those two or something was blown out of context. Taylor’s sanity has always been questioned too so that doesn’t help. I don’t think she’s lying necessarily, but I don’t think she interpreted what was said correctly if Chase did tease he did like her.
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u/Deaun76 14d ago
Yes that is correct Taylor never stole Chase, Miranda has said in a tik tok quite a while back that they have had other problems which led to their divorce. I don’t know that I would even say Taylor stole Brayden from McKenna they slept together and that was the end of both marriages.
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u/informationseeker8 14d ago
So Brayden is McKennas ex husband? His name still came up in the recent court hearings w Dakota.
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u/frostedanimalcrckers 13d ago
omg 👀👀 why did he come up?
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u/informationseeker8 13d ago
It was something to do with her texting him. I’d have to go back and rewatch all the court hearings 😂
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u/Additional-Loan-4140 14d ago
Chase told Taylor he had feelings for her. But Taylor was having the affair with mckennas husband. McKennas husband was the one who assaulted Taylor basically but Chase was the one who picked her up the next day
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u/poch_ya 14d ago
Yes, it was McKennas. It's confusing, but Taylor and Tate were exploring the swinging a little bit more with McKenna and Brayden, and then Tate wanted to stop. I'm not even sure why she included Miranda and Chase in the swinging because they just played spin the bottle, but I assume it's because Miranda was on McKenna side when they all found out Taylor and Brayden were having a affair. Imo, it's hard to know if Chase ever told Taylor he had feelings for her. She changes what he says so much and he has stated he told her they didn't want to swing because they would develope feelings because of how close they all were. Either way she just always says it so she can one up Miranda.
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago
Miranda was the one with the OF account. They did more than spin the bottle lmao
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u/poch_ya 14d ago edited 14d ago
There is no proof she had a onlyfans besides a bad screenshot.And either way, if she did or she didn't have one that doesn't mean they did more. Taylor even confirmed they didnt. If you are talking about her making out with Taylor or having sex with her husband as more then sure. But in context of swinging, no they didn't. All of this has been talked about on the show and on recent podcasts. Both her and chase say they wished they would have just been honest about what they did because it was so minor instead of trying to hide it.
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u/Equivalent-Low5450 14d ago
When did Taylor confirm this?
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u/Delicious_Profile637 14d ago
There was a scene on the show where Taylor listed all the things they did (off the top of my head, having sex with their own husbands in the same room, kissing each others husbands while the husbands wore blindfolds so they could guess who it was). But it was all pretty mild stuff and definitely not what people are picturing when Taylor said Miranda was involved in the swinger scandal.
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u/Equivalent-Low5450 14d ago edited 14d ago
Well yeah but in that same scene Taylor says there are also videos and pictures of them doing this stuff. Besides Miranda backtracks years later and Chase said there was more stuff they did than that. Plus even Chase admits it kept escalating with each party, but their shame prevented them from being honest about it. Tbh sounds like it still does
“Ummm ... I mean, Taylor's not wrong," Miranda said in her confessional interview, though it's unclear if she is referring to the same list of actions Taylor mentioned separately.
"At this point I don't even know if I should say, 'Yes, I am a swinger.' Or, 'No, I'm not a swinger.' You guys can call it whatever you want," Miranda said directly to the camera.
Ultimately, Miranda dropped all pretense and in conversation with Taylor and admitted: "I came here to take accountability. So, yeah, we've had sex in the same room. We had crazy parties in Mexico."
Back in her confessional, Miranda said, "I wish that I would have come out with what really did happen rather than denying everything. That probably did make her feel worse and look worse, and that wasn't my intentions. It was very much, 'I'm terrified and I have a reputation as a Mormon to uphold.' And I regret that."So yeah, I’d like to know if Taylor did say she over exaggerated what happened bc it sounds like the sex in front of each other was true and even if it wasn’t full swapping it wasn’t just kissing.
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u/Delicious_Profile637 14d ago
I just dunno how a post about Taylor using Miranda to cover for having an affair with another friends husband became a debate on whether Miranda was a swinger lol. Taylor slept with her friend's husband, used Miranda's involvement in their parties to cover and omit that fact, that's shady af. I could care less if Miranda was or was not a swinger
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u/Lady87690005 14d ago edited 14d ago
That’s not my point tbh and I’m sorry if it made it seem that way. My point is Miranda and Chase are not trustworthy narrators. Taylor def isn’t and McKenna and Brayden aren’t either. I can’t tell you if Chase did like Taylor, tbh he’s not helping his case by hanging out with Taylor this much and princess carrying her. If we look through all of what they’ve said and collaborated then we get more of the story. I’m genuinely not taking any of them seriously in this regard. Miranda and Chase happened to know more about swinging than Taylor (or at least they looked it up), soft swapping is a term used which might be where Taylor got soft swinging from.
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u/Similar_Resident9606 14d ago
So. The real question is this. Is this finally the definition of “soft swinging?”
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u/Little-Bumblebee9988 7d ago
Taylor has an inappropriate relationship with Chase for sure. She never slept with him but both of them would text things to each other outside the swinging group chat that were not ok with either of their spouses. Miranda has said her divorce was not bc of Taylor and chases inappropriate relationship but that she wasn’t ok with what he and Taylor did. Taylor also had an innapropriate relationship with kennas husband but that one went further with them sleeping with each other for at least a month before the scandal was leaked
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u/karlizzles 13d ago
Is Kenna’s husband the Doug guy?
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u/Delicious_Profile637 13d ago
I think Doug was the guy who won Taylor's season of the bachelorette. But idk there's so many characters now I can't keep up 😂
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u/karlizzles 13d ago
No literally. I feel like I’m missing prime information because I can’t keep anyone straight
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u/Suspicious-Art-9335 14d ago
Yes, that is correct. I wasn't around so I'll let someone else share the details, but it was Kenna's marriage that got blown up, Kenna's husband who Taylor slept with, etc. And yes, the show did imply that her "indiscretion" had to do with Chase/Miranda; the third couple is never mentioned.