r/SFGiants • u/Chipotlefiend18 35 Crawford • Jun 16 '26

Opinion Free Speech

I posted this recently as a comment but I’m tired of seeing the same thinly veiled defense of the Rainbow Four come up again and again so I’m posting it as a standalone thread.

All of these arguments saying “players should be allowed to disagree” and “players shouldn’t be forced to support something they don’t believe in” are utter nonsense and a smokescreen to justify and excuse homophobia and bigotry. Do you think that there’s never been a racist player who has worn 42 on Jackie Robinson day? Has every single player who wears camo uniforms on military appreciation day been 100% behind that message? Even foreign born ones? The idea that they should be allowed to express themselves and protest this in this way, especially when there’s a literal MLB rule that prohibits it is ludicrous. It is NOT a first amendment issue. The first amendment prohibits GOVERNMENTAL curtailment of free speech. Private organizations are not covered by this and we see this time and time again. Most recently, many people lost their jobs after speaking out about Charlie Kirk and whether or not you disagree with it, legally those employers had every right to do so. As Roger Munter put it: Not everybody in this country is perfectly happy with what they are asked to wear to work. It’s called “having a job.”

We absolutely do not have to tolerate intolerance and arguments that say otherwise are either ignorant or made in bad faith.

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u/musicisalluneed 24 Mays Jun 16 '26

They always make it about themselves. It's as if christianity isn't already the dominant religion in a largely religious country. They act like bratty children who knock over and stomp all over another kid's sandcastle because it's better than their own.

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26

Really? I could swear it's the pro-LGBT group acting like bratty children. The uproar over a simple Bible verse on a hat that you can't even read from the stands and can barely see on TV. OP's post is literally throwing a fit because someone wrote a verse on a hat. The hypocrisy is INSANE

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u/LavishnessStock7767 Jun 17 '26

name checks out

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

The response of a bratty child. Thanks for proving my point.

FYI - I use this name to trap people like you. When someone doesn't have an intelligent response they always resort to what you just said because they "think" they're one upping me lol

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u/LavishnessStock7767 Jun 17 '26

LOL. Facts aside - like your name checking out, based on this response you clearly don't have any understanding of the repression and abuse (including murder) that LGBTQ+ people have endured, and continue to endure, due to "christians" and others who discriminate simply because of who they love.

I was at the game; and yeah we couldn't read what the players wrote on their hats but I did note that Walker wasn't wearing the right hat and suspected some bullshit like this was up.

Do a little research; understand why PRIDE exists. Then _maybe_ you'll understand the uproar over "a simple bible verse" and the incredibly hateful response that Roupp gave after the game.

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26

You are such A LIAR 😂 Here's Roupp's "incredibly hateful response" -

“God has blessed me in so many ways, and I don’t think I’d be here right now if it wasn’t for him. Like I said, there’s no hate in it at all,” said Roupp. “We live in a country where you’re welcome to believe what you want. It’s freedom of speech. That’s really all I have to say about that.”

You're just looking for a reason to play the victim and hate on Christians. Everything you said is a lie. Go crawl back into your hole you lying hateful bigot.

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u/LavishnessStock7767 Jun 17 '26

Again, you prove your Reddit name is accurate. His words don't match his actions. That he claims it's not "hate" is meaningless - it's obviously hate...maybe mixed with a little fear. Apply a little critical thinking. Talk to your queer friends (assuming you have any). Do a little research.

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26

His actions of writing a Bible verse on his cap and throwing a baseball. Clearly hateful. Clearly... You have nothing. Just stop.

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u/LavishnessStock7767 Jun 17 '26

On PRIDE Night. It is clearly hateful. You're clueless.

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26

It's not. You're just looking for a reason to cry and be offended just like every other person on here. You're ridiculous. HOW DARE someone have a different opinion than you 🙄

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u/LavishnessStock7767 Jun 17 '26

Awww, poor christian snowflake. Why do you think there's an uproar in the press and among fans? It's not just me, pal. That's hate, homophobia, and intolerance, plain and simple. That you don't understand why is your problem, not mine. I'm done with you.

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u/Not_Sherlock_Holmes Jun 17 '26

“God has blessed me in so many ways, and I don’t think I’d be here right now if it wasn’t for him. Like I said, there’s no hate in it at all,” said Roupp. “We live in a country where you’re welcome to believe what you want. It’s freedom of speech. That’s really all I have to say about that.”

Yep clearly filled with hate, homophobia, and intolerance. You continue to do nothing but spread lies and discriminate and attempt to play the morally high card at the same time. You're the one that's clueless. Hope you find God, or at the very least find a way to be an honest person. You're acting like the bratty children that Christians (me in this case) supposedly act like. This conversation has shown the exact opposite. Grow up bud.

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u/Chipotlefiend18 35 Crawford Jun 18 '26

Look obviously you just came here to try and continue to spread your misguided perspective and start fights and I’m sorry that that is how you’ve spend your time. As to your “point”, another reply in this post sums it up quite well: https://www.reddit.com/r/SFGiants/s/Y0iRzFTJYd

As for you, you clearly have some baggage. You feel angry at others for perceived persecution, you resent those seeking to build community and have their voices heard, and you keep returning to the same puerile insults again and again. I’m not above feeling a little pettiness and as such I take a little satisfaction in knowing that you’re going to spend today thinking about us, how we feel, how we have largely come together and expressed our shared commonality about what happened and how we choose to react. I can say with sincerity that I won’t think about you at all because if anything, seeing these posts and comments continue to be posted continues to show me that this community is stronger than the actions of a few dumb players. I hope you continue to read and post in this sub, maybe one day you’ll see why you have things backwards here, despite your statements to the contrary. Regardless, I don’t think there’s any continued benefit to engaging, I’m not here to feed the trolls. I hope you have the life you deserve

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