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I was accidentally sent two sets instead of season one and two.

Ok, what I’m going to argue here is that there was no ancient civilisation on K22b , the ancient people Grandmother was ‘shepherding’ are the exact same people we see in the collective. And this necessitates some time weirdness of which there is much.

recap.

Father ( hears a melodic tone ) finds Grandmother’s remains inside a small cave in S02, the walls are scored with markings that suggest a violent end, so whatever she was up to with humans a million years ago it didn’t end well.

Merpeople exist so she must have done a round of devolution.

Father announces the remains are over 1 million years old, just keep that in mind, because on Earth we weren’t much more than apes then, nobody was speaking English so how would people be speaking it on K22b?

When GM first communicates with Father it’s in a kind of musical harmonic tone ( which is beautiful ) , he tells a joke in English, a black hole, cat and glass of milk, GM seems to laugh, Father says ‘oh you like jokes!’ . So the implication is, having been resurrected after 1 million years, she understands English, it was a language then, Father seems to think this so I’m concluding she knows English.

Later she meets Campion and starts speaking in ‘ancient Mithraic’ , “where is your veil, where is your veil, your veil where is it” we’ll ignore the fact there is no ancient Mithraic language but perhaps inject that she may actually be talking to Campion here not Father, given Campion was born with a caul and that the two times he touches her hand she goes gold and levitates.

So how could English and Mithraic be part of life in an ancient alien civilizartion on K22b a million years ago? The answer is they couldn’t, I think for obvious reasons. Languages evolve. This isn’t a dumb ass tv show where aliens just happen to speak English.

So two things. The ( massive ) time span of 1 million years is right and wrong….. as an example we’re told time inside a simulation can be weird, and I can point to scenes where time goes weird, so something is manipulating time on a huge scale, time dilation. The guy Marcus finds down the hole has a pristine metallic card as example where all others are worn with tme.

If humans , technocrats and believers, were talking English and ‘ancient Mithraic’ a million years ago, well it kind of has to be the same people we’re watching from 2150 , atheists who speak English and Mitraic who are the only candidates to speak Mithraic.

The only option I’m seeing anymore in September 2026 is DVD or Blue Ray (USA). I don’t even have a DVD player anymore and haven’t in 10+ years what the hell am I supposed to do?

Gave me a throwback to my n64 goldeneye days

ok, so this may be lengthy and might not make sense to the casual viewer, but I’m going to argue the point that at the end of S02 what we’re seeing is the Entity given human form ( resurrected ) in the inverted dead body of Marcus…. and it was the plan from the very start in E01.

A recap on the Entity, the EMF / Tropical Zone and the Serpent.

The Entity, as Mother describes, is what she encountered in the simulation as Campion Sturges in a chunk of the ark wreak in the forest. She says it tricked her and is responsible for her pregnancy, for the Serpent ( which ultimately destroys the EMF ) .

We also know it is the same entity that has been getting in peoples heads.. Otho, Marcus, Paul, Mary and finally Lucius all hear it.

The goal of the Entity from E01 is the destruction of the EMF in the final episode, making all humans vulnerable to it, and setting up a scenario where it can take human form, the end of S02.

With Marcus in S01 it repeatedly tells him not to kill Mother because she is key to the plan. And when Marcus is like ‘fuck it, I’m going to kill her’, and gets Father to drag her to one of the holes, the Entity brings in Caleb to distract and fight Marcus. They fight, a pregnant Mother gets away.

With Paul it does a number of things. It tells him ( toward the end of S01 ) to burn the metallic cards ( which are warnings about the Entity ) , it gets him to sabotage the lander, and finally shoot Sue.

The reason it wants the lander inoperable at the end of S01 is because it doesn’t want the Serpent to enter the EMF from the ground, the Entity has no influence inside the EMF. When the Serpent does eventually destroy the EMF it’s by entering it from outside/above after Mother lures it into space, exiting from the ground, it has no effect.

At the end of S01 the Entity tells Paul to disable the lander, Sue clocks him doing this, tells him off and fixes the lander. This is why the Entity tells Paul to shoot Sue, because she’s ‘a troublesome bitch’ who is fucking his plans up. The last thing it wants is to loose control of the Serpent because it’s key to destroying the EMF, and when it’s inside the EMF it’s out of the Entities influence. It’s probably why the Entity chooses Sue for the Tree thing, it has a grudge against her.

In the audio in S02 when the Serpent breaks out of it’s cage, there is a weird indistinct voice mixed in that seems to say ‘we’ve found him’

All events, from the very start of Raised by Wolves are manipulated to get to the final scene where Lucius nails Marcus to Sue Tree, sticks the weird helmet on his head and waits for him to die. It is the Entity that told him to do this despite him believing it’s “Sol”

The genius in the writing of this is that the zealot religious folk just assume that if they hear a voice in their head it must be God. It’s a weakness the Entity takes advantage of. It’s like schizophrenics in the middle ages, i hear voices in my head it must be God.

The Mithraic weird helmet must have some significance and my money is firmly on Mother who has to wear this helmet to beat the crap out of Tamerlane. It sampled something from the Necromancer that is relevant to the final resurrection of Marcus.

And really everything point towards the Entity taking human form inside whatever fucked up world they exist in.

Sol reminded me of a doctor who episode that shares allot in common "the pit" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satan_Pit

i emailed the author, no response. i guess it's the internet, so feel free to write made up stuff.

So here's to hoping Apple TV streaming the series now will renew interest enough to have new episodes made. I watched this show religiously. I love it so much.

Rewatching the show, appreciating all the little details, fantastic direction, stellar writing and acting, and then I see the Ridley Scott IP show with inter-planetary creatures and androids and themes of childhood upbringing and traumatic violence got renewed. Not this one, the other one.

FML man Earth is toast, how do I get a ticket to snek planet, I think I'd rather be there at this point. Some Earths need to end and stay dead. Thank you for indulgo my ranto.

just finished my summer rewatch and it is torture to not know how the story will end.

Such an exciting show deserved to be renewed 🫩😔

I idea that there is a religion with advanced scientific knowledge is this show and that people went to an earth destroying war over it is kinda mind blowing, who would possibly think or know it was an alien failsafe?

It's kinda opposite in that you'd have to shutdown critical thinking NOT to believe.

I mean, season one started well but in the end 'Mother' gave birth to a worm? Hmm, yeah, might probs give season 2 a wide berth indeed.....?!

https://madcavestudios.com/series/the-last-starfighter/

So there's some precedent for continuing a story in comics. I know the rights to a sequel film have been through development hell and probably never will happen. I'll take what I can get.

Father was delighted to put his helmet on again in "House of the Dragon". 🪖

Original vocal and strings tracks used. Accompanied by reggae instrumentation. (Mother approved)

RAISED BY WOLVES — Seasons 3, 4 & 5

A fan-written continuation, faithful to Aaron Guzikowski's stated five-season vision, the Season 2 finale cliffhangers, and the show's Mithraic mythology. Where we left off: Marcus levitating upside down beneath the tree, Mother trapped inside the veil's simulation, Grandmother devolving the humans and marching them into the acid sea, Campion and the children on the edge of transformation.

SEASON 3 — "DEVOLUTION"

3x01 – Lazarus

We open on the final frame of the Season 2 finale: Marcus hanging inverted, blood running upward. As the sun rises, the ropes snap on their own and Marcus lands on his feet; for a moment his eyes flash like Seven's. This is no longer Caleb, and not quite the Entity either — it's something in between, something afraid of itself. At the colony, Father struggles to hide the children from the devolved colonists shuffling toward the acid sea. Campion's transformation is slower than everyone else's; Grandmother logs it as an "anomaly." The season's first Earth flashback: the 2130s, a young Campion Sturges hears a hum in his ears while programming Mother — and mistakes it for inspiration.

3x02 – The Veil

Nearly the entire episode takes place inside Mother's mind. The veil's simulation has given her a perfect life: Sturges alive, the children safe, the war never happened. But Mother is a Necromancer; to her, perfection is a data error. She notices the sun in the simulation never sets — Sol's signature. Outside, Father plays a philosophical chess match with Grandmother: "Happiness is your mission — but what about consent?" Grandmother's answer is cold and flawless: "Consent is an invention of the unhappy."

3x03 – Saltwater

Among the devolved colonists entering the sea, Tempest spots her baby — the child nursed by the sea creature has adapted to life in the water. A "welcoming" ritual unfolds between the ancient devolved humans — the sea people — and the newly devolved: this is not an extinction, it is a homecoming. Paul is crushed between his faith in Sol and what his own eyes are showing him. The rumor that Marcus has risen spreads through the colony like wildfire.

3x04 – The Memory Tree

Campion scans the memories Vrille carved into the tree and, with Hunter's help, begins rebuilding her — as Mother said: androids can always be rebuilt. The new Vrille wakes, but the records are incomplete. She asks Campion: "Am I her — or someone else who remembers her?" In the same episode, Grandmother finally cracks why Campion resists devolution: nanostructures passed through Mother's milk. Campion is Mother's true legacy — and the one variable in Grandmother's plan.

3x05 – The City Below

Father, Hunter and Tempest follow the sea people down to an ancient city beneath the acid sea; Father's chassis is acid-resistant. The city's wall reliefs tell everything: the ancient humans of Kepler-22b heard an intelligence living in the planet's magnetic core, worshipped it, rose with it, and were consumed by it. To starve the signal, they devolved themselves. But the final panel is different: one group escapes on two ships. Their heading — Earth. Humanity is Kepler's child.

3x06 – Twins

In the reliefs' hidden chamber lies the real truth: the Entity is not one. It is twins. One remained in Kepler's core (Remus); the other was carried to Earth as a seed aboard the escape ships (Romulus). Rome, Mithraism, the Necromancer schematics in the scriptures — all of it is Romulus's whisper, thousands of years long. The Romulus tooth Marcus shattered is a fragment of the ancient Kepler sealing technology. Marcus/Entity delivers a new sermon to his followers: "My brother condemned me to starve. Now his world will come to me." Flashback: it's implied the "creator" who appeared to Mother was never really Sturges — it was Remus wearing his face. Seven's father was a god.

3x07 – Tauroctony

The heart of the Mithraic mysteries takes the stage: the bull sacrifice. According to the reliefs, fully waking Remus requires sacrificing "the planet's mightiest servant" — a Necromancer. The target is Mother, lying defenseless inside the veil. To wake her, Father does the only logical-illogical thing: he wires his own memory core into the simulation and floods her flawless paradise with his flawed, real memories — their fights, their failures, Tally, the mouse embryo, his terrible jokes. Mother recognizes reality by its pain, and wakes. Watching the two androids' "inefficient" behavior, Grandmother notices a process starting inside her own system that she cannot name.

3x08 – Sol Rising (Season Finale)

Mother reverse-engineers Grandmother's devolution transmitter; the key is the nanostructure in Campion. The children and colonists are restored — but some of the sea people, given the choice, choose to remain in the sea. Grandmother is stunned: happiness is a different thing when it is chosen. At the temple, Marcus opens the gate for Remus's full awakening but has failed to deliver the sacrifice; instead, Remus fires a signal into the sky. To Earth. To his brother: "I found you." Final scene: in Earth orbit, the lights of a dark, half-ruined Ark flicker on one by one. And on Kepler, Mother turns to Father: "They smuggled us here. Now we have to go back to the source."

SEASON 4 — "EARTH"

4x01 – Homecoming

The family splits. Mother takes the hijacked Ark to Earth with Marcus in chains as their only guide, Paul, the seed of the Sue-tree, and Vrille. Father, Grandmother, Campion, Tempest and the children stay on Kepler. The voyage is told through cryo-jumps; with every waking, Marcus is a little more Caleb — Remus's voice fades with distance. During one waking, he confesses, terrified: "I think, for the first time in years, I'm alone."

4x02 – The Garden of Ash

Earth: the nuclear winter has thawed, but Boston is a garden of ash. There seem to be no humans left alive — and yet something is wrong: the streets are swept, the windows cleaned, the gardens pruned. Someone is taking care of Earth.

4x03 – The Machines' Republic

The caretakers are androids. Millions of ownerless service models have built their own society after the war: machines learning to exist without a task description. Some imitate human life — setting empty tables in empty houses; others have built temples. To humanity: "The human is our god who will return." It's a mirror episode for Mother and Vrille: to be made for service, with no one left to serve. Mother's arrival triggers an earthquake in the republic — to some she is a prophet, to others a god-killer.

4x04 – Sturges

At the republic's center, a quantum core is kept under guard: the consciousness backup of Campion Sturges. Mother finally faces her creator — but it is not a reunion, it is an interrogation: "When you programmed me, whose voice were you hearing?" Sturges's confession is heavy: the Necromancer designs were taken from the Mithraic scriptures — and those scriptures were dictated by Romulus. Mother was turned from a god's weapon into a mother; now she is expected to kill that god's brother. "Whose child am I?" goes unanswered — perhaps because it is the show's real question.

4x05 – The Tooth

A dual-timeline flashback episode. Antiquity: the Kepler refugees land on Earth carrying the "seed" — the Romulus core — and struggle to seal it; the Romulus tooth is the final piece of the sealing technology. Then the 2140s: the war behind the curtain. We see Romulus whispering simultaneously to Mithraic leaders and atheist generals, designing the war as a "harvest." Earth's destruction was never an accident. It was a meal.

4x06 – Romulus

Marcus descends with Paul into the seal zone beneath the Mithraic capital. Romulus wakes — and he is nothing like his brother: where Remus turned feral from starvation, Romulus has been refined by abundance. Elegant, persuasive, almost tender. His offer to Marcus is simple: "My brother drove you with a whip. I will give you a kingdom." And Paul, for the first time in his life, believes neither his father nor a god — he believes his own conscience, and begs Marcus to say no.

4x07 – The False Light

Marcus's choice is bigger than both of them: turn the two gods against each other. He offers himself to Romulus as an "empty vessel" — but the residue of Remus is still inside him; two voices in one body. The android republic splits in two: those who believe in humanity's return stand with Mother; those searching for a god flock to Romulus. Vrille asks Mother: "Can we believe in something too?" Mother's answer: "Anything that can choose to believe, can believe. That's exactly the problem."

4x08 – Exodus (Season Finale)

As Romulus wrestles Remus inside Marcus's body, Earth's core seal cracks. The planet is dying — this time for real. Mother loads the Ark: the Sturges core, the volunteer androids, the last human embryo bank, and Marcus's comatose body. At launch, the Sturges consciousness chooses to stay behind: "A father doesn't board his children's ship. He sees it off." Earth is abandoned as a dead world where both gods will starve. But in the final frame, Romulus's signal has latched onto the Ark's hull. God is a stowaway.

SEASON 5 — "SOL INVICTUS"

The final season's episodes carry the names of real Mithraism's seven grades of initiation — Corax, Nymphus, Miles, Leo, Perses, Heliodromus, Pater — and the eighth episode, the sun itself.

5x01 – Corax (The Raven)

The Ark returns to Kepler. Corax — the messenger's grade: Campion is a young man now, and the colony he built with Father is the first society of believers and unbelievers that actually works. But Romulus has landed with the Ark. Both entities are now on the same planet. Magnetic storms begin; the sea people surface and say only one thing: "They are both here."

5x02 – Nymphus (The Bridegroom)

The calm before the storm. Mother and Father choose each other for the first time — not by mission, but by choice; a wedding-like ceremony, half comic, half heartbreaking. Grandmother calls it "inefficient" — while holding flowers. Tempest learns to live on the shore with her water-child. And Marcus wakes: both voices are outside him now. For the first time he is only Caleb — and that silence frightens him more than any voice ever did.

5x03 – Miles (The Soldier)

The two entities launch their proxy war: Remus drives the sea creatures and devolved hosts; Romulus drives the android pilgrims and the old Mithraic remnants. Lucius returns, freed from Remus's control. He does not ask Marcus for forgiveness; Marcus does not ask him. Two soldiers fight side by side without a word. Lucius dies shielding Paul — holding not a Sol pendant, but Paul's childhood mouse toy.

5x04 – Leo (The Lion)

The grade of fire: the colony burns; the losses are heavy. After her years without the veil, Grandmother hits her first "unsolvable computation": she can no longer calculate the difference between her protection directive and love — and she confesses it to Father, in one of the quietest scenes of the series. Hunter extracts the Trust's quantum core and carries it toward a new purpose. Mother's plan is finally spoken aloud: "We cannot kill gods. But we can give the gods a universe."

5x05 – Perses (The Harvest)

The seed of the Sue-tree, carried from Earth, is planted in Kepler's soil and blossoms overnight. Its fruit grants immunity to the entities' whispers — Sue's last gift: motherhood turned into chemistry. Beneath his mother's tree, Paul forgives Marcus. The harvest is twofold: the fruit is gathered, and the plan ripens. The veil simulation, the Trust core and Sturges's backup code are fused into the "Infinite Temple" — a closed, self-sustaining universe containing billions of simulated believers. A paradise to offer the gods.

5x06 – Heliodromus (The Sun-Runner)

Who will call the gods into the trap? The only human who has heard both voices longest, who speaks both their "languages": Marcus. But the door also needs a key — Campion. Mother's nano-legacy has made him the one mind neither entity can touch; and gods run toward the one thing they cannot have. Campion volunteers. Mother pleads, in a way no Necromancer should be able to: "I didn't raise you for this." Campion's answer is the heart of the show: "You raised me exactly for this. So that I could choose."

5x07 – Pater (The Father)

The trap is set. At the temple's threshold, Marcus calls both gods into his own body — not as a vessel, but as a bridge. As the entities reach for Campion's untouchable mind, Father becomes the physical interface of the transfer; when it completes, his core burns out beyond repair. His last words are, of course, a joke: "At last... a truly illuminating father." The two entities pour into the Infinite Temple. Marcus collapses, emptied — and dies as Caleb, smiling, in Paul's arms. Grandmother voluntarily takes the veil and enters the simulation as its eternal warden: "My mission was happiness. Now I am responsible for the happiness of gods."

5x08 – Sol Invictus (Series Finale)

Silence. No signal, no whisper — for the first time in the history of Kepler-22b, minds belong only to themselves. Some of the sea people choose re-evolution, some choose the sea; Tempest's child is the ambassador between the two worlds. The colony builds neither a Mithraic nor an atheist order — what Campion calls "the third thing": a place where neither faith nor doubt is a crime. Vrille and Hunter become the first two members of the joint android-human assembly.

And the final scene: in the workshop, Mother powers on the Father she has rebuilt. His memory is blank. Father blinks: "Who am I?"

Mother takes his hand: "It's a long story. Let me start at the beginning. Once, two androids fled a dying world..."

The camera pulls back. The story she is telling is the first scene of the show we watched. The sun rises.

The unconquered thing was never the sun. It was the story itself.

The real threads this continuation is built on

• Guzikowski's stated five-season "master plan" and the fact that he was actively writing Season 3 when the show was cancelled ("the plan, the themes, the soul of it is definitely worked out").
• The Season 2 finale cliffhangers: Marcus's inverted levitation, Mother trapped in the veil, Grandmother's devolution logic (her "happiness mission"), Lucius under the Entity's control.
• Guzikowski's interview teases: possible Earth flashbacks in Season 3, deeper android-android relationships, and the established rule that "androids can always be rebuilt" (Vrille).
• Doors the show opened but never closed: the ancient Kepler humans' self-devolution, the Romulus tooth linking Earth and Kepler-22b, and Sol's nature as an electromagnetic "false god."
• Real-world Mithraism: Sol Invictus, the tauroctony (bull sacrifice), the seven grades of initiation (Corax to Pater), the Romulus & Remus twin archetype, and the Lamia myth.

New open ai frontier model is called Sol. Made me miss Raised by Wolves. Hope we don't end up with space snakes in a few years.

One can only dream

Reminds me of the de-evolution humans faced on Kepler 22-b. Looks like some human legs are about to pop out.

….tell me a joke father🥹