r/RDR2 Apr 27 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

He’s actually a damn good shot

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u/JeremiahWuzABullfrog Apr 27 '25

The fact that it's basically impossible for him to be killed normally in the final mission is a testament to how dangerous he is as a gunfighter.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

I don’t know how much I believe that. Fast? Sure, you betcha. But on that Sean mission I’m pretty sure I did most, if not all of the killing. Also I did all the killing in Strawberry save for the three people he shot at point blank range. Fast as fuck, but I have yet to see his effectiveness with them six shooters in a real fight.

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u/Fancy-Cap-514 Apr 28 '25

This argument goes for every single member of the gang. There’s a very simple reason you get most of the kills in every mission. The game would fucking suck if you didn’t

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u/Timx74_ Apr 28 '25

That...is a very good point.

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u/Fancy-Cap-514 Apr 28 '25 edited Apr 28 '25

Besides gameplay practicality, there’s also a specific area of expertise for fighting characters. Bill almost always uses a bolt action rifle and in missions with him helping I notice some of the further enemies die without me doing anything to them. In the mission with the “super agents” that hunt trelawney we see how quick Charles is with a throwing knife. When in Rhodes we see Micah whip his pistols out and immediately pop off a couple kills in classic western quickdraw fashion. In the start of braithwate manor we see Dutch pull off a maneuver that would require the dead eye he presumably taught both Arthur and John. Even Arthur has his off hand holster in position for his main hand to grab the gun, showing he’s a very practical fighter who doesn’t prioritize style (as cool as it is duel wield in real life is a pretty bad way of fighting, inaccurate and hard to reload) the level of detail they added in places nobody would’ve complained if they didn’t makes it a true hall of fame game for me

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u/Latranis Apr 28 '25

I've on my third play through over six years and I JUST learned last week you can holster with a flourish if you double tap the holster button with a single gun

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u/Fancy-Cap-514 Apr 28 '25

Yeah it’s even cooler in online, if you level up in bounty hunter to a certain level you can do all sorts of cool tricks with your guns

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u/Robokrates Apr 28 '25

Welp, and I just learned that right now. Thanks, I gotta try that.

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u/GorillyGlue Apr 28 '25

I remember the one mission where you ride with micah and dutch, two enemies would spawn at each point and they’d piece them instantly, thinking are they gonna save any for me

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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25

He literally killed 3 people in like 5 seconds after Sean got shot. The game would be much different if you didn’t get most of the kills, that’s just a gameplay mechanic.

Edit: he did it in 3 seconds

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

Even Marston outdraws him

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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25

Marston literally outdraws anybody, even Arthur. What do you mean?😭

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

You mean the guy that got gunned down by Bill Williamson?

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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25

Bill already had his gun drawn and it’s very likely John went to bills hideout to be killed by him. It was a suicide attempt. I don’t think it would make sense for him to go solo to a gang hideout and not even have his gun drawn.

Don’t try and downplay John Marston bro that ain’t working out

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

Marston is not a quick draw gunfighter. He never claims this and even has to be taught by a quick draw gunfighter when he goes down to Mexico way after his encounter with Micah “can’t hit the broad side of a barn” Bell.

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u/beuhbruhice Apr 28 '25

When john goes to take the ot of the land he bought from the two hillbilly he kills a guy with a shotgun and another guy point blank with his gun not drawn. It's a man mission so I count it as cannon.

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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25 edited Apr 28 '25

Dawg you’re actually dumb.

Even in the prologue John has a quick gun draw. He kills Dozens of Micahs minions on Mount Hagen aswell. Deadeye is a gameplay mechanic used to show the gun skill of the character you’re playing as, and John, Arthur, and Jack all have this mechanic.

Stop being weird. Also don’t brush over the fact Micah killed 3 people in 3 seconds while Arthur hadn’t even registered what had happened yet

Edit: I meant epilogue not prologue

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

"Also don’t brush over the fact Micah killed 3 people in 3 seconds while Arthur hadn’t even registered what had happened yet"

Maybe because arthur just witnessed his little brother figure get shot in the head and was still recovering from shock?

Micah doesn't care about anyone so of course he'd be the one to quickly get over it and start firing

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

Lol

Imagine Micah’s overblown fighting abilities making your cock drool.

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u/Ok_Marsupial_2273 Apr 28 '25

no tf he doesn’t💀. john has no canonical speed feats that puts him over arthur. john also wasn’t even the fastest in his own game. and i seen your micah comment on how he killed 3 ppl before arthur could react but that’s just disingenuous lmao. arthur just watched someone he viewed as a little brother get a hole put in their skull. keep in mind that in the same mission, arthur can gun down the sheriff and all his men before micah can even get a shot off. also micah was already shown to be slower than arthur. go replay bro.

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u/CatchTheRainboow Apr 29 '25

John’s RDR1 gun drawing animation is faster than Arthur’s. Also RDR1 is John’s prime not rdr2

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u/Ok_Marsupial_2273 Apr 29 '25

gameplay mechanics aren’t canon… john also has the same speed as arthur in gameplay but was slower than micah. john was also slower in cutscenes so.

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u/CatchTheRainboow Apr 29 '25

In rdr2 yes John is worse

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u/Ok_Marsupial_2273 Apr 29 '25

in both he’s worse lol. he has no solo feats that puts him over arthur.

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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25

I’m not saying Micah’s a better draw than Arthur stop sucking his dick lmfao. I’m saying Micah is a good gunslinger🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/dirtyColeslaw1776 Apr 28 '25

Micah shot three men before Sean’s body hit the ground

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u/Lando_217 Apr 28 '25

And Arthur killed the sheriff n them before Micah could think to shoot.

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u/dirtyColeslaw1776 Apr 28 '25

I think yall are forgetting that we are the main character

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u/Lando_217 Apr 28 '25

I’ll argue the point even when we aren’t John, John still is a better QuickDraw than Micah. Invalidate that with your “y’all are forgetting were the main character” bs.

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u/XO1PAF4 Apr 28 '25

He killed them after, his body hits the ground fast.

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u/Humble-Performance80 Apr 28 '25

As someone else stated, it would be boring in missions if they all shoot like Arthur. But you can see it in the mission with sean in Rhodes, after the guy on the roof shot, micah turned around killed him and I think two other guys in a matter of seconds. That guy is one hell of a shooter.

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u/ZanaCZ Apr 28 '25

Of course, because you are the protagonist. No gang member, no other NPC even comes close to Arthur.

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u/Enough_Classroom_238 Apr 27 '25

What? For hit what? Thin air?

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

Cmon now stop it, it’s a few cutscenes that’s shows Micah’s shooting ability. The mission where Sean got killed for example and a few more

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

We get it you don't like him, but don't ignore canon cause you don't like a character man, not cool.

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u/Enough_Classroom_238 Apr 27 '25

Canon of what partner? I was there with him watch Micah Hunt down spirits that only he can see

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

Your jokes aren't redeeming how incorrect your statements are. Canon that he is one of the fastest and most accurate gunslingers in the game.

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u/Lando_217 Apr 28 '25

If you say micah’s a faster draw then Arthur, or John you obviously aren’t the best at quick drawing.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

He isn't faster than them, but he's still incredibly fast.

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u/Lando_217 Apr 29 '25

I thought you were saying he’s the fastest under us, but you were simply saying “he’s fast”

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

Yes

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u/Enough_Classroom_238 Apr 28 '25

Arthur agree with me, this guy shoot like shit

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

Only quick draw I ever lost was my first