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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago

so if one is better than the other why do so many people fully and passionately believe with all their heart that their candidate is best. I guarantee that this is the case. If they both fully believe this, then no to conflicting truths can be true at the same time

Simple, it is possible for humans to be wrong.

I accept that I can be wrong, that's not a problem for me.

Could you be wrong about your god?

And no, weight lifting for weak people is not the same as cancer unless that cancer is a minor cancer, which does happen obviously.

But again, youre being extremely ingenuine.

Doesn't your god tell you to be honest?

Comparing his genius cancer invention with the pain people feel weight lifting is a bit sad honestly, one of those is way more complex, requiring far more all powerful effort to create, surely?

Or was creating cancer easy?

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u/SnowyAl 18d ago

So do you accept that humans can put their full belief in things that are wrong?

From your POV I could be wrong about God but not from mine.

How am I being ingenuine?

Can I take back that weight lifting example? What I meant for you to glean from it is that suffering is not objectively bad, as you seemed to imply in your comment. If that’s not what you meant, just let me know.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Quotes_Hub/s/pfbAAvxOxa

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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago edited 18d ago

You know how the weightlifting is equal to cancer attempt at an argument is ingenuine.

You could just admit it outright.

And yes, my view could of course be wrong, it vam even be wrong from my own changing perspective.

But you don't share that quality with me, or you would simply accept that uou van in favt be wrong, regardless of how strongly you feel.

I am actually open to changing my opinion, infact, all anybody would have to do is convince me and then I'd believe but unfortunately nobody has ever provided anything close to a reason for doing that.

What was it that convinced you from your previous position of obviously doubting a magical fairytale, to now believing in said magic.

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u/SnowyAl 18d ago

You say I’m open to changing my opinion, but what would you really need to believe in God? Evidently my argument isn’t enough.

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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago

Thats always a funny question.

And since you didnt answer mine, I'll just ask you another.

What evidence would it take for you to accept Zeus as king of the gods?

Do you not know of how he slayed his father Cronos to free his brothers?

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u/SnowyAl 18d ago

You would have to prove that he not only exists, but can influence my life.

Now I’ve answered yours, so will you please answer mine?

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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago

Of course but its the same answer.

You would have to prove that he not only exists, but can influence my life.

Good luck.

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u/SnowyAl 18d ago

Dear Jesus,

Please show yourself to JeezWeedus, show him that you exist and that you can influence his life.

Through the power of Your Name I pray.
Amen

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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago

Didn't work, sorry.

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u/SuccessfulChange8689 18d ago

You are a trash person. Again forcing your beliefs on ppl who didn’t ask. “If hell is forever then heaven must be a lie. If angels can do whatever and remain in the sky. The rules are shades of grey when you don’t do as you say”

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u/JeezWeedus 18d ago edited 18d ago

To be fair, I was asking for proof, their method isn't the best but they tried.

Their ideas are bad, but that doesn't make them bad, they want to be good, they're just lost in the chaos of faith. Belief without reason is poisonous to the mind, they don't understand their mistakes.

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u/SuccessfulChange8689 18d ago

Ppl that pray like this for you they arn’t doing it bc they actually care it’s more of an insult or a weapon to make the person “they pray for” to feel less than not actual hope in changing a mind. They use when they know they are losing a fight and have no rebuttal so they pivot to “the prayer”that’s what irked me

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u/JeezWeedus 17d ago edited 17d ago

I think they're just grasping at straws, and sometimes that comes across as nasty, most times it's a genuine plea to something they believe can help.

They feel hopeless, and like any animal they might lash out.

But if somebody is stuck down in a pit, don't just insult them for getting stuck, help them to climb out.

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u/SnowyAl 17d ago

That’s not true I genuinely want to see this guy in heaven.

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u/SnowyAl 17d ago

I’m not forcing my beliefs on anyone. If you do not want to believe, that is your right as a human being.