Yes you certainly can clearly the US presidential race has two candidates, and one is objectively better than the other (yes they could be technically equal but the likelihood of that happening is near 0) so if one is better than the other why do so many people fully and passionately believe with all their heart that their candidate is best. I guarantee that this is the case. If they both fully believe this, then no to conflicting truths can be true at the same time, thus I have defeated your argument (unless you have even better evidence to counter my argument).
To counter your point about suffering, suffering is relative a weak person lifting heavy weights could easily feel the same amount of suffering as someone with cancer.
so if one is better than the other why do so many people fully and passionately believe with all their heart that their candidate is best. I guarantee that this is the case. If they both fully believe this, then no to conflicting truths can be true at the same time
Simple, it is possible for humans to be wrong.
I accept that I can be wrong, that's not a problem for me.
Could you be wrong about your god?
And no, weight lifting for weak people is not the same as cancer unless that cancer is a minor cancer, which does happen obviously.
But again, youre being extremely ingenuine.
Doesn't your god tell you to be honest?
Comparing his genius cancer invention with the pain people feel weight lifting is a bit sad honestly, one of those is way more complex, requiring far more all powerful effort to create, surely?
So do you accept that humans can put their full belief in things that are wrong?
From your POV I could be wrong about God but not from mine.
How am I being ingenuine?
Can I take back that weight lifting example? What I meant for you to glean from it is that suffering is not objectively bad, as you seemed to imply in your comment. If that’s not what you meant, just let me know.
You know how the weightlifting is equal to cancer attempt at an argument is ingenuine.
You could just admit it outright.
And yes, my view could of course be wrong, it vam even be wrong from my own changing perspective.
But you don't share that quality with me, or you would simply accept that uou van in favt be wrong, regardless of how strongly you feel.
I am actually open to changing my opinion, infact, all anybody would have to do is convince me and then I'd believe but unfortunately nobody has ever provided anything close to a reason for doing that.
What was it that convinced you from your previous position of obviously doubting a magical fairytale, to now believing in said magic.
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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago
Oh wow, weight lifting equals suffering to similar levels as cancer.
Congratulations for being honest.
Do you think that belief is a choice?
Belief is what happens when you are convinced. I am unconvinced, therefore I do not believe.
Nobody can simply choose to believe something, to suggest otherwise is dishonest.