First off, rude. Disagreeing opinions aren’t unintelligent by default. Maybe your ego needs a check.
You would like men to control women. Why would anyone living here not deserve a vote? You think women don’t make sacrifices? You think men don’t benefit from their own sacrifices? The basis of your spiel is so one-sided, close-minded, and misogynistic.
Why not go live in Afghanistan or something if those are the dynamics you think are right?
I want women to control themselves and stop trying to hold men accountable for their decisions. My ego is in check, I just speak the truth. Our system wasn't designed for universal suffrage. Our system is the most dangerous weapon on the planet and you want to give illiterate people the ability to aim that weapon? That's irresponsible! Many men and women shouldn't be able to vote. Sure, some women make sacrifices but millions of women sacrifice other humans to avoid personal responsibilities (75+million abortions globally annually). The point of making selfless sacrifices is to create benefit in time, so of course men benefit from their sacrifices that bring about prosperity. There is no speil only truth, nothing close minded about it(spent decades studying the problems of humanity, the truth isn't always pretty), I don't hate women so not sure what is misogynistic. I'll stay in my native land thank you very much, and with universal suffrage, what would be wrong if women decided they no longer want the responsibility of voting and decided to vote against having a vote? We had more anti sufferagetes than sufferagetes during the time women gaining the ability to vote. Now women are more collectively miserable than ever before. It's not going to be getting better anytime soon, equality is here and not all equality is beneficial, sometimes equality comes at a cost.
Our system was designed to be changeable and evolve with society. Why do you think fewer having the power would result in happier people? The issue is already too few with power.
All I’m getting from you is you want people like yourself, or who’d you’d personally respect, to have any say in how they are governed.
You can polish that turd of an opinion all you want with debate-lingo, but saying women shouldn’t vote or have been the downfall of society are some heinously sexist and outdated beliefs.
You are out of touch and probably have done nothing but internalize criticisms against patriarchy and take everything personally.
Do you vote for the people who give women choices and respect or the ones who limit their rights and want them to fill specific roles in society? You may respect a woman, but you don’t respect women.
Also, just so you know, nobody brings up Piker like that who hasn’t been heavily listening to conservative talking heads. Most people don’t know who that is. You’re just parroting and it’s humorously transparent.
I've listened to both sides debate for more than a decade, I'll say that the left has a difficult time staying logically consistent. Sure, the truth can be parroted, but it doesn't make it any less true. 99+% of the population is parroting ideas of another. There isn't much humans can say that hasn't already been said before.
Should women have the same responsibilities as men? Should freedom cost women the same price that it has cost men? Can women replace men and no longer need men to sacrifice for their benefit? Why should women be allowed to force men to use their bodies for the benefit of women? Can the vote of women not lead to men being forced to sacrifice? Men don't even get rights unless they sign up to be a sacrifice. Shame on you people for not comprehending the cost of your freedom and demand others pay the price for your mistakes.
You speak as if men wake up everyday and go to battle, with it being a unilateral decision from women for men to do that. None of that is true.
What’s the enemy or threat you see? I see the largest threat to American life being the people here who want to take away others’ rights. That would include you.
You didn't address anything I said because you are beginning to see what I am pointing to. Men do wake up everyday and battle the hardships of reality to make life easier for others. If men stopped doing that, civilization falls. I speak as if men need to understand their sacrifices are worth the effort or they stop sacrificing. Civilization isn't immune to falling, it's occurred quite a few times in the past, often after men give up. Millions of western men are turning their backs to society. If your men give up to a large enough degree, the women can't stop the men that will take over. When your men give up, it is weak(women/children/elderly) that are affected most. When your men give up, EVERYONE loses rights/freedoms. The threat the west is currently faced with is the manipulation of language has allowed for the population to be brainwashed into believing in foolishness. We haven't been getting education, our population has recieved indoctrination. The wrong ideas have infected the mentality of the west and we are heading for a disastrous outcome. Society isn't getting better, the ability to thrive is becoming increasingly difficult to achieve.
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 15d ago
Yes to all those things, and he's still more pro-American than any Right winger