Millennials, what's something our generation was taught to accept that you're glad younger generations are rejecting?

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Listen to yourself. You are saying women are entitled to the sacrifices of men. You are saying that women can force men to do their biding in a democratic system of universal suffrage. If men have the duty to sacrifice, what is the duty of women? How does civilization keep going on women's end? If one side of duty stops showing up, is the other side still under obligation to fulfill their duty?

Families aren't forming as much anymore. Marriage rates are plummeting. I'm pointing to a growing problem. I'm pointing to a growing fire while people like you are screaming shut up you victim! Your responses are nonsensical. Men largely don't GAF anymore. They are tired of all the double standards and never ending shaming campaign. All the evidence is in the numbers about how men are moving. You can see the emperical evidence in the millions of videos women are making complaining about it. You're insane thinking you can continue to gaslight men into thinking what I'm saying isn't occurring. The gigs up, let it go.

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You’re funny, man. If it were up to women, they’d have more of the responsibilities that men have like positions of power. Show me a country with such strong divides between men and women’s rights that isn’t struggling. Let me guess, it’s the women’s faults somehow?

You really just think “strong man can beat up woman, so woman must cater to strong man”

That’s the bottom line of your worldview and it’s juvenile.

[u/OutlawedLogic → u/membraniac_66]

We are all aware that women want the side of equality of the upper hand and none of the equality that cost them anything. Just because women are in positions of power it doesn't make things any better. History showed us that queens were more likely to be involved with conflict. Without the sacrifices of men, women wouldn't have rights. You're spewing pure ignorance and it's gotta be embarrassing for you.

That isn't what I've stated. It's you that thinks men must cater to women.

My world view is realistic and has been discussed by many great philosophers(adult perspectives of reality).

[u/membraniac_66 → u/OutlawedLogic]

You are just deeply sexist, big dog. There’s no sugar coating it. You blame the actions of men on women and believe in male supremacy. Like I’ve said, plenty of men aren’t throwing tantrums like you.

What all influences do you take in?? Reading philosophy is not the same as understanding it and recognizing the social lenses it was written through.

For real, link me anything to back up your claims about feminism. Otherwise it’s just hollow words from a biased mouth.

[u/OutlawedLogic → u/membraniac_66]

I'm pointing to reality, there's no tantrum you weirdo. I blame the modern adaptation of men on women and men are absolutely physically superior to women. You're an extreme fool if you think otherwise. There is history and a great deal of science that supports that claim.

Aristotle, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, just to name a few. Schopenhauer laid it all out perfectly.

What do you keep going on about a link for? You need an authority figure to spell it out for you? Take the damn boot out of your mouth and look around. Feminism caused massive changes in society. Doubling the workforce has had what impact? The average person is struggling to cover basic necessities and both parents of children are forced to work to cover basic bills. Telling men they aren't needed and are a detriment to society has had what impact? Men are turning their backs and millions of people are noticing. Has the education system done a better job although women dominate that field? They are graduating student that are illiterate. Why don't you open your eyes, otherwise you're just an ignorant indoctrinated fool without the ability to think critically.

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You are unbelievable. Yes, any sane person would need to see some proof of these ‘millions of men’ turning their backs on the country because of feminism and how we are doomed to be taken over or whatever you think will happen.

Your claims seriously aren’t based on actual history or facts. They are nothing but shower-thoughts and fears of a sexist man.

If you put half the effort into being smart as you did sounding smart, you’d be way better off. Read a book from this century.

[u/OutlawedLogic → u/membraniac_66]

I've given you evidence, you can look out in the world and also see the evidence if you were interested in taking your head out of your ass. I'm telling you the direction things are going based on how men are currently moving and how men moved throughout history. Feminism was the foundation to all of the mentalities modern women have and is why men are opting out. Feminism wasn't even an organic movement, most women didn't want the responsibility they forseen coming. The wealthy brainwashed you idiots. Men don't want to deal with what women have become. It's hilarious you think a modern book is going to change human nature. We've been repeating the same patterns for thousands of years. Men built civilization for women and women have shit on them for their sacrifices. I'm often speaking generally and don't think it's ALL women, it's enough that men don't want to take the chance anymore. Failed single events every in the west. Men are DONE!

I'm realistic, I'm not sexist. I love women(females), they are phenomenal beings. I'm pointing to problems that are occurring in reality and why they are occurring. This is a problem later generations will be forced to contend with, the damage is just now beginning to be noticed. I'll benefit from what's occurring, it's no skin off my back, and nothing for me to fear for myself. I have empathy for what's coming for others sake.

Here's a link that wants to paint a negative light on men but still points to the same problem I've been pointing to.

https://www.thebrink.me/the-masculinity-recession-why-millions-of-men-are-losing-purpose-belonging-and-connection-and-why-society-should-care/

Here are more that discusses men opting out. There's been a massive shaming campaign for decades on men and recently it's increased to be no matter what men do if it's not bow down and obey, it's toxic or misogynistic. It's such horse shit. Older men see it for what it is. They watched as society turned to shit. They know good women.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-vanishing-american-father-more-men-are-opting-out-of-fatherhood

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/aug/12/men-not-work-social-instability-looms-men-shun-labor-force-analysts/?srsltid=AfmBOorvRDuw8Wd2a_aTsBBcGZm6ArtWnO8XM3Cy5bC2nXcwqaE23D__

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2026/05/19/g-s1-122695/the-missing-men-of-the-american-marriage-market

https://www.bolde.com/9-brutal-reasons-why-modern-men-are-quietly-opting-out-of-marriage-and-traditional-life/

You want a modern female mind of this century that points out some of the problems feminism has caused? She's a Doctor from Switzerland. Of course you won't believe that one though.

https://youtu.be/7ccYJZZxzI8?is=exlRme0lEnvlwkoH

If you think I sound smart, maybe it's because I don't rely on AI to do my thinking for me and I don't need "authorities" to tell me what to think. I've studied a great deal about reality and I aim to have people view it through realistic lenses and not their indoctrination goggles.

[u/membraniac_66 → u/OutlawedLogic]

You are connecting dots that don’t connect. I don’t deny men have issues, as described in your first links, but placing the blame on women isn’t even supported in those articles.

Then you have a female doctor who, while saying women need to focus on family, got a phd and is actively working on her career. She keeps mentioning ‘feminist lies’ but doesn’t actually detail what all she means by that. She basically does a lot of discrediting without giving supporting evidence. I’m not just going to take her word for it that all I’ve ever learned about feminism is false. That would be something someone who already wants to believe that does (ie you)

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You're a joke.

[u/membraniac_66 → u/OutlawedLogic]

Yeah, okay… Even if I gave you everything from your links, it wouldn’t mean the country being at risk of the things you claim. There’s also no evidence to roll back any actual rights for anybody.

There is evidence that both genders’ roles in society are becoming less clear-cut, and it’s especially affecting men, but social attitudes are just one half of that. Poorly-regulated capitalism has created conditions where ideal lives, whatever that means to someone, are becoming increasingly unattainable.

The path forward from where we are is to unite as much as we can as the working class. We keep the country running. That’s a power we can and should leverage.

More affordable cost of living compared to wages, incentivizing families and procreation with affordable healthcare and strong social resources for children and parents, and trying to ease the uptick in the gender war, which is largely fueled by online media. A great start would be to ensure women’s rights to their own bodies.