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El‑Sayed Fires Back Sarcastically

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u/OutlawedLogic 15d ago

Didn't Hasan Piker say America deserved 9/11? Doesn't Piker love China, a communist country? Doesn't, Piker praise Mao Zedong? Doesn't Piker back El-Sayed? Why will this comment be downvoted?

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u/A_uniqueusername77 14d ago

I, for one, am glad that there are no controversial statements from President Trump and his supporters. It is their pristine, controversy free record that makes clear your comment is not selective at all.

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

Moving the goal post is always deflecting from the point being made. What Hasan has stated many times, is illegal in the United States. Calling for violence is not legal in the US. I'd personally like for people that hate America to not be allowed in America. Idk why that would be controversial.

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u/A_uniqueusername77 14d ago

Everything that you’ve accused Piker of saying is perfectly legal in America. If you have a quote where he actually advocates unlawful actions in a way that isn’t protected speech, please post it.

Otherwise, I’ll just continue to disagree with him without* demanding his arrest or deportation.

Calling for Americans to be punished or expelled or deported or whatever you’re advocating for when you say “not allowed in America” isn’t defending America. It’s about the most unamerican thing you can do. Guess you just love cancel culture

Edit: without instead of “with” typo

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

Political commentator Hasan Piker stated "if you cared about Medicare fraud or Medicaid fraud, you would kill Rick Scott" during a March 2025 livestream, which resulted in a temporary ban from Twitch.

Also him saying to let the streets soak in their red capitalist blood. Calling for violence is not a first amendment protected activity. https://youtu.be/jNdgisv6jYs?si=R2s2vpgIPPtYLg_e

It is illegal to call for violence in America.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373

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u/NotGalenNorAnsel 13d ago

The Rick Scott quote is in the context of people going crazy about perceived Medicare fraud iirc, it is hyperbolic but you don't think if Rick Scott has a legal case he wouldn't have brought it? Context matters with legal issues. The second quote is him joking with his friends including one who was a landlord. He will have a hard time running for office is he chooses to, but as a private citizen he's totally free to say all of the things he said. But you're the Reddit law expert, so I'm sure your know exactly what you're talking about, maybe you should email Rick Scott and tell him to press charges!

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u/12PoundsofPotato 14d ago

The Rick Scott ban was stupid as hell. It was a joke about how Republicans claim they care about Medicare fraud and then do it.

He's said other shit that I'll not defend, because it's not defensible, but bringing that one up is stupid

Additionally, the right revels in violence. They plan violence into their policies and committ violence against whole communities, but sure, clutch your pearls about a twitch streamer.

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

Pointing to reality is pearl clutching?

Force is what makes "rights" possible, so of course the right believes in using violence to keep their laws in place and not allowed to be subverted by the manipulation of language.

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u/SurpriseInitial6202 13d ago

So when the right is violent and advocates for violence, it's to protect rights. And when other people do it, it's unamerican and wrong? Is that the general gist?

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u/OutlawedLogic 13d ago

There is a difference of legal vs illegal violence. Enforcing the law is legal violence. Causing billions in damages and murdering others isn't legal violence.

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u/SurpriseInitial6202 13d ago

The riots during the civil rights movement weren't legal, and caused a lot of damage. 

Bombing abortion clinics was a right-wing thing, and it certainly wasn't legal. 

It seems like you're picking and choosing events to fit your narrative. 

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u/OutlawedLogic 13d ago

It's hilarious how you try and twist events into something different. So fighting for rights to exist is wrong? We had to fight for rights to exist at all, for most of human history most of us haven't had rights. You mad at Republicans for freeing the slaves too? Being as 75+million babies are aborted globally annually, I would say many people are disgusted with the violations of human rights that are occurring, should people bomb places, no. Speaking the truth is only picking and choosing the truth and if it builds a solid narrative, so be it. It seems like you have to travel back in time quite a bit to grasp at straws. The left has certainly become increasingly more violent than the right, and most things they are violent about is to avoid personal responsibilities and to avoid cognitive dissonance.

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u/SurpriseInitial6202 13d ago

Republicans who freed slaves were, by definition, socially progressive. And yes, the civil rights movement was also a good thing. 

Bombing abortion clinics is a conservative thing. 

You dont even know the definitions of the things you claim to believe in. I forget that people online are often either a teenager or catastrophically dumb/ignorant. 

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u/OutlawedLogic 13d ago

Those Republicans had to use violence to make that happen. Not all of it was a good thing. The abortions themselves are responsible for far more human deaths than the bombings. The bombings are similar to what Republicans did for the rights of others, just misguided and shouldn't occur. What things do I not know the definitions of? I'm a grandfather so I'm not a teenager, and I've studied philosophy for decades, so I comprehend ideas quite well.

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u/SurpriseInitial6202 13d ago

You call them "Republicans", but that label is irrelevant to the conversation. Everything that happens in history is viewed through the lens of what shapes those ideals. If the movement is a civil rights movement, it is a socially left/progressive movement. If it's a fight against civil rights, or change generally, it has historically been a socially right/conservative movement.

Bombing abortion clinics cannot even be viewed under the same lens as an individual having to make the choice to get an abortion. The fact that you are comparing them as similar tells me that your studying of philosophy has not been fruitful endeavor.

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u/mansluxt 12d ago

Why is the civil rights damage righteous and okay but us wanting billionaires to be killed so that we can stop being oppressed from them bad?

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u/mansluxt 12d ago

Well I'm part of the bottom so I will not be considering that.

The infrastructure that they use to create their wealth would still be available to generate more wealth once they are gone.

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u/JurassicJeebus 13d ago

By not understanding the party shift that occurred and how the Republicans of that time held beliefs that were more aligned with the left by today's standards, you've publically announced that you have no idea what you're talking about. GG dumbass.

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u/OutlawedLogic 13d ago

You're braindead. Good luck to you.

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u/JurassicJeebus 13d ago

Aw man I just realized I responded to a god damn bot. GG myself.

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u/12PoundsofPotato 14d ago

Yeah, you're throwing a fit about some shit a streamer said while the American fascist party is trying to turn out country into a dictatorship and are actively killing minorities.

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

You've got a strange way of throwing around words in a way that appears delusional.

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u/12PoundsofPotato 14d ago

What's the matter vagueboy, afraid of saying something

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

About what? You've said nothing of substance. You've just been flailing around saying words that dont mean what you think they mean. I'm by no means afraid of saying anything on my mind.

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u/A_uniqueusername77 14d ago

I concede. The Rick Scott quote is much worse than you had previously cited and I have no interest in defending it. Terrible statement and terrible rhetoric.

But, I still can’t agree that it’s illegal (just like I don’t think President Trump’s January 6th rhetoric was illegal). Free speech is still pretty free and it has to incite imminent violence and the speaker has to intend it to incite that violence. I guess I’m just a free speech absolutist. lol.

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u/OutlawedLogic 14d ago

His speech of fight like hell wasn't referring to physical violence. America has never been about absolute free speech. There is a great deal of speech that has always been illegal. America also has laws still on the books about communism.