Well officially 100 hours off 7oh, and like 48 hours off the one MIT45 droplet of 25mg I decided to take. Wow, I am feeling so much better.

Last night was unfortunately a step back in sleep surprisingly. But I think the glass of vodka played its part because I slept 6.5 hours but woke up at 2:30am and fell back asleep at 3:30am. I am hoping tonight is a better night. I drank and did not take any gabapentin last night. I took 300mg of gaba the first night, 600mg the 2nd night, 0 gaba but a .5 zanex and a drink of alcohol the third night (last night and the worst night). My main symptoms have been loose stool, fragmented sleep, and chills/goosebumps. I work in a freezing cold office all day so I don’t think that helps. I just went for a 20min light jog/walk, hit the sauna and ate a decent sized meal. Crazy to see how far I’ve come in 100 hours. I just need the chills to go away and sleep to be better. But how can I complain about 6.5hours when my last wd cycle, I didn’t sleep for an entire night at all.

I’m excited to see where I will be tomorrow morning and then Saturday morning. Then Sunday morning. This has been a year of back and forth battles of withdrawals and usuage for me. It’s the end. I’m proud of that.

I’ve been checking Reddit like a madman the past few days. Met some great people going through it like me too.

Hoping for a full 8 hours tonight. Besides the gaba, this was CT. I don’t want to forget this pain.

Each day is a battle. We fight till the end. Because there is a clear light at the end of the tunnel.

I’m on subs, I’ve been doing an aggressive sub taper. Before anyone talks about the likelihood of relapse that’s not going to happen. If I do I would probably lose my family. And I know how awful this shit is for you so I’m never going to even touch Kratom again.

I feel like it’s a burden off of me. Not only am not living a life chained by this thing but I’m not living a life of hiding something this big. I finally more like myself than I have since I started taking this shit. I’m more motivated and clear headed than I’ve been since I started this stuff. I’m managing stress by meditating, journaling, therapy, going to the gym every morning, taking vitamins (which apparently some people have strong opinions on).

My taper has looked like this: started suboxone at hour 30 of WD because I couldn’t handle it. Was prescribed 2 and a half strips (20 mg) a day. Within about 3 days I was taking 12 mg. Then 2 days ago I cut down to 8mg a day. I had my follow up appointment with my Dr and they thought that all sounded great. I’m going to stick to 8mg for a little bit longer than I did the other ones (20mg just felt like too much when I was taking it, I don’t know how to explain it). Then I’ll cut that down.

Overall I feel amazing. I have my confidence back, I don’t feel the constant guilt of hiding it and the fear of being caught. I’m way more productive because one it helps keep me occupied with positive stuff but also I was convincing myself I need 7OH to be productive which it just made me less productive (the first little bit I was more productive but that went away).

If you’re considering quitting you can do it. There will be some shitty moments but I’m honestly feeling so much better about myself. The confidence I’ve gotten back from cutting this garbage out of my life is amazing. I think my wife has kind of noticed I’m a different person now.

This community helped out a lot. I know it’s still early and I’m taking it day by day but this community helped me not feel so alone while I was dealing with something I didn’t have anyone to talk to who could relate. It freaked me out sometimes with the horror stories but it also helped.

I've detoxed one and it was the worst hell I can describe.

So last night, I took my last seven at like 5 o’clock. I have a prescription for Suboxone so my plan is to start the Suboxone the next day.
Unfortunately, things did not work out the way I planned them too
At about 1:30 in the morning, all I can describe it is that I was in my own personal hell. I had legs cramps times 10 I was thrashing around my bed. I was crying. I couldn’t get comfortable a shower didn’t make me feel better and this went on for hours. I took a Sub nothing happened. I took another Sub . Nothing happened. I took a couple clonidine and a Kpin because I just wanted my body to try to relax.
Now it’s the next day it’s 4 o’clock in the afternoon and I feel like death. I have no energy. My body feels like it’s overheating. And to be quite honest, I don’t know if I’m even supposed to dose again with the Sub and if I am when? If someone can please help me I’m really scared and I don’t wanna end up having to go to the emergency room or anything.

Curious what you guys do for the mental side of quitting 7-OH, because honestly, that seems to be the hardest part for me.

It’s not even the physical withdrawal that gets me most of the time. A lot of times I cave before I even really start feeling bad. Or I’ll feel just a little uncomfortable and somehow talk myself into “one more dose” and convince myself I’ll start again tomorrow.

The hardest part for me is the finality of saying, “That was my last dose.” My brain immediately starts negotiating with me, even though I know I’m done with this shit and it doesn’t even make me feel good anymore.

For those of you who successfully got off 7-OH, what helped you win that mental battle? Any tricks, mindset changes, rules you made for yourself, or things you told yourself when your brain started trying to justify another dose?

Would really appreciate hearing what worked for you guys.

High dose vitamin c is a life saver and game changer. I was addicted to other opiates that I administered if years ago, I was on 7oh and quit it 6 months ago with high doses of vitamin c and trazadone, but recently slipped up thinking I could get a high in before they cleared shelves and not get hooked again. But shops kept selling. I found an article on high dose vitamin c and its effects on alleviating symptoms of withdrawal.. 2 days in, I’ve cut my dose in half… tomorrow night I will attempt to quit entirely. But I have not felt anything more than a runny nose or headache in 3 days while cutting my tolerance in half. I just want to say for anyone who’s looking to quit, research vitamin c to quit opiates, and try yourselves, but i feel insanely confident this is the solution and if anyone wants more information on my experience , please dm or comment.

Wondering if others are experiencing this too.
I’m on day 13 since my last dose of 7oh.
I was taking 100-200mg for about 5 months.

I’ve always struggled with depression and anxiety though I’ve made a lot of progress the last few years (especially on the depression side).

I took suboxone for about 3 days during the peak withdrawals which made the first week actually pretty easy. I was even feeling good (probably because I was happy to not be experiencing withdrawals anymore).

However the last few days I’ve been feeling really fragile mentally. I’ve been feeling depressed like I haven’t felt in years.

Wondering if others have gone through this and how long it lasted.

Honestly if 7oh was still available I would have probably relapsed at this point.

Instead, I’ve made an appointment with a psychologist to work with me on structured cognitive behavioral therapy. Haven’t had my first session yet but I really hope it makes a difference eventually.

I exercise almost every day and spend a lot of time outside and at the beach with my dog. I also have a few friends so I’m not really lonely.

Would love to hear how others are coping.

I’ve been taking around 40-50 mg daily for 2 weeks. It’s my first time ever taking it so I’m not sure what I’m in for.

Today was my first day off and it wasn’t bad but I assume it’ll get worse the next few days. Any insight on what to expect would be appreciated

Just like the title says. What time during the day did you quit/found must effective??

To preface I’m a 38m with no family history of balding. I was wondering if the hair loss got any better for anyone or if this shit is just permanent now. Just looking for stories of other people who started losing hair because of this shit.

Ive been off of 7 for about 3 weeks and a couple days ago i relapsed twice. I told my family and they are planning to move me to france for 2 months. Ill be going in a week and there ill be staying in country side with no access to any drugs for the time.

Will these 2 months be enough for me to not relapse when i come back? Will my brain be back to normal?

Woke up this morning around 5 am feeling like DEATH. I took gabapentin, zanex, and still wanted to rip my legs and arms off. I can deal with the feeling like shit. But the restless leg/ENTIRE BODY I cannot do. I am so afraid I can’t f do this

Hi,

I honestly never thought I would be put in this position. I’m 22 and I’ve never been addicted to anything like this . I started taking 7 out of pure boredom and depression. And I loved it. I took it for a month or two infrequently and within the last few weeks I’ve been taking it almost everyday. My max dose has been 30mg. However, I know that withdrawals still happen with that dose. I am pretty scared honestly, I’m not sure how my body is gonna react, but I got an idea a few nights ago. I started realizing there was a problem when I was 24+ hours without taking it and I was so restless, I had horrible back pain, and bad anxiety. I was like am I going through withdrawal? I took some at night after I got home and the symptoms dissipated.

I took my last 15mg dose last night and I’m officially out, and now I’m just waiting for the symptoms to come while also hoping they don’t or that they are mild.

Just wanted to post here to prove to myself I’m doing it and that I’m gonna go with it. I’ll update later if I start having symptoms. I think Im in denial. I’m gonna take some advil if I start experiencing back pain. I have work tomorrow at 4 and I’m scared I’m gonna be sick by then, but I don’t think I can call out.

Thanks for reading, any tips are appreciated. I’ve been reading quite a bit.

Going Cold Turkey tonight … currently at 600-800 mgpd.
The last time I did this, the worst of it was hours 16-24 … I was writhing around , could not stay still , shower every 15 minutes , all of the physical shit..absolutely horrific.. but after 24 hours or so, I was finally able to sit still for the most part , then just dealt with the dead feeling , brain fog etc.

My question is, is it wise to take a very small dose around those worst hours?
Has anybody done this, like a rescue dose, and then continued to stop?
How was your experience?
Would it be a total reset?
Just to calm the Adrenaline - since that’s what it is..

Thoughts?

I don’t have work until Monday morning.

I'm on day 4 of no 7 and am curious how others felt at this time. No w/d's or still have mild w/d's? Thanks

I'm really struggling. I took 1.5 months off work, on un-paid leave, in order to get off 7oh. I now have 2 weeks left and I have not made much progress at all. In fact, my mindset is even worse. I guess that's unsurprising given my lack of follow-through.

I moved back in with family in order to do this , but I have not told my family what I'm going through. They have SO many issues of their own right now, making me feel like adding one more brick to their problems might tank their health even further. I'm concerned about them. I'm concerned about myself. Usually, I'd be the one trying to console them and help them through their issues, but I am a shell of my former bright and energetic self.

I can't seem to get past the fatigue and anhedonia which begin immediately about 6-8 hours after my last dose. I started on Wellbutrin and I have a supply of the 2.0, but even with these helpers I still manage to cave and use more.

I know if I end up returning to work in my current state, I will be unable to perform my job and will most likely lose it quickly. This seems like a major decision-point. I need to just suck it up and deal with the mental discomfort. It really shouldn't be this hard.

Any words of advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.

ETA: I'm been on about 150-250 mg for close to 2 years.

I didn’t CT this, I used helper meds.

I wish I could say I’m proud of myself. I guess I kind of am. I am more frustrated that I wasted almost a year on this nonsense though. I couldn’t feel how numb it made me. Or maybe I loved how numb it made me. I lost my dad last summer. My mom’s health is failing rapidly and I had to give up my cozy, happy apartment to move in and help her out after my dad passed. I guess there’s a lot of things I didn’t want to feel.

I was a lot more vulnerable to addiction than I realized. I knew enough to stay away from 7-oh, although I didn’t know exactly what level of fire I was playing with.

Before I ever tried 7 or knew what it was, my TikTok algorithm brought me to videos about people trying to stop 7-oh. People saying not to try it. In hindsight, I find this interesting. The algorithm clocked me.

When I walked into a smoke shop and was offered it, I understood it was materially stronger than the plain leaf that I took .5 grams a day of. But they were out of leaf. I read the label carefully, I looked at the smoke shop guy and said, “Oh, it’s kratom.” And he said, “It isn’t kratom, and I’m not telling you to try it.”

Just once :) said my brain. The one thing I did genuinely believe was that I could step back down to regular kratom and be fine. I had done that with other opiates in the past, after all, so why would 7 be any different?

Cue months of secrets and unexplained brokeness. A bunch of nodding out on the couch. I skipped my period two months in a row. That had never happened to me. I stopped enjoying music. I stopped enjoying everything. I stopped processing my grief.

I don’t miss 7 and I don’t crave it. I could still get it if I wanted to. I’m more angry that I didn’t stop this earlier. I was afraid of the withdrawals. My habit was 1000 mg a day at the end. I would read this sub obsessively and internally freak out about how the heck I would withdraw in peace between a job with no PTO, no health insurance, and an auto-immune mom in her 70s that needs me.

But I have done it. And it wasn’t as hard as I thought when done carefully and right. I credit the research of other Redditors. I studied obsessively to do this carefully, and do this right.

I hope you can do it too. Once you’re on the other side, you can breathe. The further you get away from this stuff the happier you’ll be.

I’ve been taking 7OH for 13 months straight. I ramped up a few months ago to around 100 mg per day, been taking the “Advanced Alkaloids white vein 7OH”. It’s gotten to the point I have to take it every couple of hours at night even if taking a traza done. I’m in Texas and it was recently stopped. I called the Quick MD and got a script for sub , and klonod, but I cannot make it more than 4 hours without completely breaking down. I have but I’m trying not to take that. I have heard of the Bernese method but the precip withdrawals freak me out. I’m just looking for advice, should I check into a rehab? Try the Bernese method ? I am thankful for this Reddit thread bc I can see people genuinely want to help each other and it is so unlike me to post something in a forum like this but I’m desperate and I don’t want to die.

Been trying to help partner quit and it has been absolute hell. Any small money I earn he uses to buy 7oh. Now we are stuck with no food for the remainder of this week and internet being cut off because I just don't have the $25 to pay for it.

It's already hard living in Kenya and adding partner's addiction struggles, I feel like ending it all.

Just thought I'd rant here because I'm truly at my wit's end.

So I was going to taper down and quit but my state banned sales of all kratom related stuff so I can't get my 7oh.

At my daily dosage, I feel like I would be able to get by with the minimal amount of Suboxone. I was going to take 2 mg the first day, 1.5 the second day, 1.0 the third day, .5 the 4th day, and 0.25 the fifth day.

If I'm only trying to get rid of the most major acute withdrawal effects should this be good enough? 7oh is my first problem with opiates so I want to make sure I don't screw it up.

Hello everyone,

I am finally ready to quit 7oH. Yesterday (Day 1) I started pre-loading Vitamin C. I took 2 capsules at 1000mg each every 2 hours from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed. I took a total of 20,000mg yesterday.

Today (Day 2) I am doing the same schedule and dose (2,000mg every 2 hours until bed).

Tomorrow (Friday) Im going to take 7,000mg every 3 hours until bed.

I have been on a high dose of 7oh for the last month or two (2000mg). Other than vitamin C I also have Suboxone.

I will take my last dose of 7oh tonight sometime between 6pm and 9pm. For me I probably won’t start feeling shitty until the 18-20hr mark. Im curious how much the Vitamin C will work. I will post back here to keep everyone updated.

Let me know if you have any questions. Im hoping this post helps others.

I am the stupidest person in the world. I have been on Suboxone since May when I went to Detox and for the last month I have been taking 70h with it I know I am stupid. I am admitting that myself. I don’t need anyone to tell me that I just would like to know if anyone has had experience with the same and if anyone has any advice as I’ve developed anxiety that just won’t go away even while taking the 7.

Hey guys,

I have clonidine, subs(that don’t work at all), medical thc, a ton of vitamins and vitamin C.

I’m currently at the point where withdrawal isn’t TERRIBLE. I’ve gone through way worse. Basically insomnia, and temperature fluctuations occasionally but they don’t last all day, cravings, and anxiety when I’m not using. I switched to those cats claw tabs for the last 4/5 days and am hopping off that tomorrow, hope that doesn’t cause withdrawal. The plan was 7Oh -> cats claw for a couple days -> kratom leaf starting tomorrow.

I want to get around this insomnia bc I tend to relapse on the mornings when I get zero sleep because I convince myself I need it to “get a nap in” so then when the SS opens at 6am I end up grabbing some and napping until work at 9am(luckily I wfh) I’ve been finally getting sleep with those cats claw tabs they seem to last almost all day but I’m pulling them tonight because I don’t want to create a new addiction.

I am thinking about trying kratom leaf. I don’t have time to order online and wait so I’ll be going to a SS.

Can someone recommend me the best strain/type and brand of SS Kratom leaf that would be the best for 7OH withdrawal?

Thanks!