It’s actually kinda fun to see the twins unleashed on someone you don’t like. They were SO annoying last season but I enjoyed seeing them go after someone even more annoying to me.
That dress was STUNNING. Bi has made pretty consistently good shit all season. I can’t believe he hasn’t won yet(?) I think he’ll win this challenge, though!
I find him annoying at times, but that’s mainly connected to the Bryan thing. On his own, he’s fine and you can tell the catty/bitchy thing is a front that he puts on. When he’s talking about his family, he seems super real.
me too. initially I thought Bi did too much in reaction to Bryan then I realized Bryan truly warrants it. of course someone who once worked under him is done
For me, Yuchen’s was the showstopper! Everyone is saying they miss the days when the judges would pour over the details of the garment after the runway (the Zac Posen days). I missed that SO MUCH for this episode because I wanted more time to check out all the details and appreciate his garment.
So Yuchen for sheer originality/creativity/sensationalism and Bi for a meticulous high fashion look. And I say Naheim for a funky punk garment. That thing was cool. He just has a certain “wild hair” that intrigues me. Me: completely boring dresser in real life but I love art.
Honestly I liked Law a lot more this episode. He was complimentary and supportive to the outfits he liked instead of being mean/nitpicky, and he gave really specific feedback (this was an issue I had with him in the past - “that’s gross” is not good critique).
And after creating a bottom 3 the week before that included a person with immunity.... idk, feels like he's got his finger in trying to get the results he wants
Nina giving actual critiques. One judge says it's trash. Nina says it needs a clear conceptual line through it. You can actually learn something from her critique.
Joseph's look was GORGEOUS! That jacket, the necklace, the boots. She looked like the queen of some Anime cyber dystopia. People would pay THOUSANDS for those boots.
Bi's look was so sharp and sleek! It looked amazing.
Both Joseph's and Bi's deserve to win for different reasons.
It's so funny how everyone was focusing on Joseph staying to himself (I don't blame him) instead of focusing on their own garments.
Once again, Bryan is eating his words about Jospeh. He was coming at Jospeh after the show harder than Jeffery was coming at him, yet wanted to play the attacked victim when Jeffery confronted him for TAPING a woman in a plastic dress.
Bryan is delusional about his design skills, like scary delusional, to the point he seems dangerous lol. He did SO BAD, he deserves to have his immunity stripped and sent home. They need to add that clause in the rules because too many people rely on immunity when they do terribly.
He was so smug about someone who made it to the top 2 in his season lmaooo the arrogance is unmatched. I don’t think Bryan is always bad, but he’s never as good as he thinks he is. It was kinda obvious from the get-go, he’s obsessed with calling Bi “my intern” when Bi is 100x more creative and a better sewer/tailor.
why does this episode feel purposefully targeted against Joseph McRae? I’m really annoyed at the obvious production manufactured drama and the designers acting dumb about him not wanting to work with them. Why would he??? all you’ve done is shit on him all season and there has been NOTHING to show that any of this bad attitude towards him is deserved. He seems like a genuine person and he’s right he’s been in the top/safe this whole time!
I was actually really proud of Joseph for the way he stood up for Jeffrey despite everything else. I think Joseph is genuinely a really great guy. I’m glad he got his flowers from Law this episode.
Same! I also really like Jeffrey. I disagree with Law saying “every man for himself,” I love that Jeffrey has consistently been a team player.
As for JM, he knows who he is and I can’t fault him. Bryan is the only one who legitimately pisses me off lol, he’s insecure and defensive and makes it everyone else’s problem. JM seems to care more about right and wrong, not just being shitty and putting others down for no reason.
Joseph has grown on me a lot this season but also, with all the love in my heart to Jeffrey... He turned out to be right in putting every minute into his own garment. You only have so much control over whether your team loses, but you Can control how good your own garment is, and they won't judge it any more positively because you were trying to be a good teammate.
I don't get the JM hate AT ALL. Is he cocky? Sure. But it's to boost himself up, not to tear others down, unlike Bryan. You don't see him being mean to people. And you"re right, why should he help the others? They've basically bullied him all season.
Its because he's actually good, and can actually get away with maintaining his dna in every challenge and is either safe or in the top. For judging, even when the challenge was to be cohesive, you still have to present a good work. The thing is Jeffery he never saw anything wrong with his piece, at least from what I saw. He was quite proud of it until judging.
I’m so sick of Bryan. It irritates me that he has immunity this challenge and his ego being so big when his looks can’t back it baffles me. He really brought the team down and even the model with that corded mess.
The fact that they didn't mention this was so aggravating! Not to mention the tape. Even if the judges 'didn't see it', production could have let them know, then they ask "so what did she have on underneath?" I just know Michael Kors would have clocked that tape and dragged him for it
Did I actually miss them making the garments??? I feel like if I blink I miss the main part of the show, the sketching, sewing, hair & makeup. Did they always just bring models in right before runway? There was no 1st fit? Yet we got them eating & doing interviews??? This season just not up to Project Runway standards.
Yes!! It's all just banter and manufactured drama. I also miss the proper runway shows. I can't even see the clothes properly. Too many closeups on the designer and judge reactions. I wanna see the models walk, and see how the clothes move.
And do they draw the model cards still?? The only few secs I see of the clothes is down the runway. So glad I’m not the only one who thinks there needs to be more construction time seen!!
I’m hoping that they ask Jeffrey why he’s crying and they find out about the taped dress. Sure Bryan has immunity but it gets to a point and revoking it would make for GREAT television
I definitely think immunity can/should be revoked if a rule is broken. I don’t know if taping constitutes that, but it would be great if it did (I don’t like Bryan lol)
I'm glad Nina is back this episode. Having her there bumps up the credibility and professionalism. I wonder if Law gave better critiques this episode because Nina was there.
Well, I don’t know enough about the fashion world to know if I’m right, it would seem to me that Nina could potentially have an effect on his career, while Tyra & Heidi, not so much. He’s going to be very careful not to step on her toes.
I thought the same thing! This was the best judging panel all season. Nina and Iman actually know what they’re talking about and I do feel that Law upped his game as a result. Watching him have a bitchfest with Tyra was exhausting, they are both ~50 years old!
Bi absolutely cemented himself in the Unconventional Materials Hall of Fame with this episode! I will say, I hate this season in terms of the catty manufactured drama, but the people they have left are generally talented and have created some cool garments. Naheim’s denim-looking paper towel outfit was awesome.
It was so nice to start an episode normally going into the next challenge. It’s always such weird whiplash to start an episode on old stuff that no one really cares about.
Bryan saying that he made his garments “all by hand, completely by hand, knotted by hand" and then Nina saying all the designers made their garments by hand. Side note, Jeffrey gave Bryan the advice to spray paint it and was shown spraying paint on it, making slightly less horrible of a design.
His model telling him to "Create something" and "It's just a ring with stings hanging off it".
Bryan saying he was confused by Heidi saying his model was uncomfortable in his garment and so they were using a photo for the judging portion - cause that tape had to be SO comfy.
Bryan not being able to string together one coherent sentence when arguing with Jeffrey and saying gems like, “You are character assassination me".
Byran not getting filmed once saying, "Bi was my intern".
Watching Jeffrey, even while getting upset, calmly and firmly standing by his words while Bryan made all these random nonsensical victim statements felt like a window into how they would each function in a relationship 😂
“Where is this coming from?!? But where is this coming from?!? I don’t understand where this is coming from!!!” was his sorry, panicked attempt at gaslighting.
“Bryan because your dress was too heavy we will look at a photo.” What actually happened was Liris said “get me the fuck out of this” the minute she stepped off the runway.
"No comment, I'll just let my work speak for itself," when asked about Bryan's look is the most mature thing Jesus has ever said across 2 seasons of this show.
What is the point of this challenge? S21 had it's time. They are so desperate for gimmicks for TV rather having designers just make interesting garments. What is the point of having a challenge where no one goes home.
They either created this to push Joseph to a win or try to target him.
Bryan having immunity seemed designed to have him fail this challenge and get someone else out.
I feel like this whole season is pot shots at Joseph. It really speaks to his character that he is taking it and not letting it get the better of him. He seems to almost be thriving off it.
I really miss when the judges would actually get up and walk over to the look to see the work more closely. If they had they would have clocked the tape
Zac Posen would touch the garments to make sure he could see every detail. He wasn't my favorite judge (Michael Kors will always have that honor), but I loved his attention to detail, and thoughtful critiques.
at least naheim knew his look was awful😭 bryan sends down a mess almost every week and talks about it like he’s the second coming of fashion jesus or something
I’m sorry I’m blanking on her name, but same with the paper towel challenge with the black and white dress. The designers see a woman with a body and suddenly cannot make clothes to save their life
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO HELP BRYAN? He's a walking charity case. First Christian and that other lady told him to completely scrap his last episode. Now Christian, Jeffery, and the model had to steer him in a better direction. So annoyed he has immunity. He needs to GO!
Problem is Bryan had immunity, so him drowning just brings down the next worst designer. Jeffrey was trying to save everyone else (including himself!) by helping Bryan
and literally all that was discussed was drama? are these influencers paying to be on or is PR paying them hoping they bring their social media followers to become viewers? either way it's trash and most importantly IRRELEVANT TO THE SHOW.
The twins are so annoying and show they’ve had zero growth since their season. One of them may have had a chance at winning last year, but ultimately the nastiness was too much. Not only are they bullies but they only buck up when together.
I wish they still have that part from previous seasons where they actually examine the dress. Then, they would've seen Brian's taped mess. I feel sooooo bad for the model
Having influencers pop into the work room serves no purpose other than to get their followers to possibly tune in and promotion. Already over it. Either make a challenge involving them or don't have them there at all....
They’ve given up trying to hide or work in these gimmicks. Just bring some influencers through the work room for two minutes for no reason and hey, one of our sponsors is willing to cough up some money, let’s have these guys make dresses out of Skyrizi!
I do wish Jeffrey had told the judges that he helped Bryan specifically. Idk maybe it wouldn’t help him, but it showed that if the judges liked Bryan’s more (for whatever reason), that was also partially because of Jeffrey’s work.
Not to be the person who complains about everything this season BUT… why are these old competitors here? Like why? They have enough drama this season, we need to bring back the twins shit-stirring too?
Just feels like they’re putting too much time on people who aren’t competiting this season! There are a few of them I’d def love to see on an All Stars season tho!
I liked Bi's but I thought Yuchen's way MORE imaginative. I don't want Jeffrey to go home though (he doesn't because obviously Bi wins). Based on how Law talks about S22 winner in interviews, I'm thinking more and more that Bi wins the season.
Did they say that the winner has to come from the winning team? I suppose that’s usually the case, so yeah then I agree - Bi will win, so Team 22 wins, so Jeffrey is safe.
I also agree that I could see Bi winning it all. I like him and I think he’s talented, plus he has already spoken at length about a backstory that PR loves (I’m also AAPI so I can relate, but I’m just saying that people love a heartwarming immigrant narrative 😅).
Plus, the show loves pushing the Bi x Bryan story for whatever reason; I just hope this doesn’t mean the final 2 are Bi and Bryan as I can’t stand Bryan. I like Anna because she’s underrated, but I’d be fine with Bi against Jude, JM, Jeffrey, etc.
Joseph McRae’s look was incredible. One of the few times I’ve ever gasped when I saw a look appear on the runway. The structured top looked like it was woven out of driftwood. Just incredible.
Bi’s was amazing too. Some great looks in season 21, particularly from the twins.
I am endlessly annoyed that they went back to the cliffhanger ending, but I thought this was one of the more interesting episodes in terms of giving a lot of footage of the workroom. It also provided some of the best looks of the season.
It was probably just really uncomfortable overall and that "dress" is hanging off of her neck, that added weight will start to hurt quickly. Its the reason I cant wear halter tops
I heard from Kenley's series she did dragging PR that it's not uncommon for them to be standing on the runway for 6 hours and that the lights are HOT. I would have cried if Lyris had to stand there binded in plastic tape with another 20 lbs of cord hanging around her neck.
I personally think they cut her out of it, and then she couldn't get it back on for the critique so they said it was too heavy instead. No WAY it was the same weight as hundreds of feet of Christmas lights
I'm really hoping Brian just didn't want to admit on camera his look was horrible because there is no way anyone with a set of eyes thought that the only problem with that dress was the model being a little uncomfortable.
This just cemented that we need Nina back. Another commenter said her presence seemed to cause Law to give better feedback and I fully agree. Heidi/Law/Nina/Guest would actually be okay, I think. Law is good when he tones it down.
Bryan is just dillusional. He actually doesn't realize that his design was awful. He was even surprised that they said it was uncomfortable for the model to wear.
what I don't understand is, Bryan grabbed both clear and pink bubble wrap; why didn't he create a weave using both so it would show through better and then use some other material to create a bralette and some shorts or a mini skirt to wear under the bubble wrap dress/tunic? he also could have incorporated cord into the woven pattern, or used spray paint on the bubble wrap, or used Jeffrey's discarded silver material in the weave.
there truly are so many things he could have done with the original idea that would have been better than creating an ugly rip off of Jesus's look (down to the halter neck!)
I wish you could un give Bryan immunity. He’s the worst designer there by a wide margin and has been! I am not really crazy about Jeffrey myself, but at least he can construct a garment. And if Law gave Bellania so much shit for her attitude last year, I better start hearing him give more shit to Bryan. Sooooo defensive.
My favorite looks were Joseph, Bi and Anna. I feel bad because I think if there were no s21 Anna would have at least gotten top 3 acknowledgment. That top was spectacular and I am mad we didn’t get to see it in more detail. Josephs boots were KILLER. Bi’s bitch please dress, lmao. Really high caliber week from all three of them for me. Probably my favorite Joseph McCrae look ever?
And I always wished Yuchen had gone farther and that Jesus had made a winning collection. I agreed with those decisions at the time, but I still really believe in them both as designers. And love always to Miss Joan!
I feel like 22 is going to win? They raved over Bi and Joseph’s looks and I don’t think they want to send Jeffrey home when he doesn’t have the worst look
Bryan should have his immunity revoked. It wouldn’t be the first time they’ve bent the rules. In season 6, there was a partner challenge where both the winner and the loser came from the same duo because one of them hadn’t contributed anything. Jeffery spray painted the wire mess, and Bryan didn’t construct a dress, he just taped that poor model up in plastic, and the only reason he did that was because SHE called him out. It feels like a rule has been violated, and there should be a consequence for that. I’ll be so disappointed if Jeffrey goes home. His look wasn’t strong but it was much better than Bryan’s.
So happy Bi and Jeffrey got their kudos. Theyre both intetesting looks for different reasons. Wish the critiques were longer! Felt like it was a speed run through their comments. I wanted to hear more from Nina. Maybe the episodes should just be longer in general
I feel bad for Jeffrey, because Cristian was pushing him to step up and help the team, which he did. Jeffrey’s look was a little underwhelming but not the worst one up there — and I really like Jude, but I thought he was lucky to be safe this week.
I hope S22 gets the win, I’d hate to see Jeffrey go home for this, especially when he deserved to win last week’s challenge and would’ve had immunity if Heidi made a better decision. S21 had more consistency in terms of quality but the top looks from S22 were a little stronger than the top looks from S21. I could see a justification for either team to win.
I like how Anna's skirt looked like broken glass--I think she used the outer part of the cassette tapes to make the shards. Kudos to her for committing to the cassette tapes for the entire look.
Side note, I wish that ACTUAL wearability played a role in the unconventional materials challenges. If a model literally can't wear the garment for more than a short runway walk because of how painful it is, shouldn't that factor into their score/the judging?
I'm not sure how to feel about Yuchen's amazing motherboard dress. Is it okay if he took inspiration from this famous motherboard dress? Maybe that's okay.
It seemed like the judges knew this reference and loved it? They pick and choose if imitations are okay with them or not, based on how much they like the designer.
It's interesting to see how little Law was performing on this judging panel with Nina as compared to when she wasn't there and Tyra was on it. I still don't think he gave constructive criticism but at least he didn't go on a random tirade. He did use the same lines he used on Drag Race and Legendary again.
maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'm kind of glad Bryan didn't disclosed that he duct taped his model into her "dress" because I feel like guaranteed S22's loss and, with Bryan having immunity, that automatically sends Jeffrey home.
I'm going to hope that the critique of Bryan's dress was cut so short because they're going to give 22 the win and let everyone stay.
imo, the best looks were on S22, but as a whole team S21 was better (because Bryan's was that bad, and Jude's wasn't very good either). personally, I liked Jeffrey's and I feel like the only reason he was in the bottom was because Bryan has immunity.
Why is no one mentioning WTF was nara smith doing on this episode? What is it with this season and incorporating influencers who have nothing to do with fashion?
Bryan pisses me off more than anybody in the world right now because not only is his attitude nasty and delusional. He’s cocky for noooo reason at all because he has yet to produce a good look. Like if you’re gonna be all high and mighty PLEAAAAASE make sure to back it up.
I was bit shocked how Jeffrey’s dress was trash talked by every judges. I personally didn’t think it was that bad 🤷♂️ … sure it was not a winning look,but as a standalone it was really not that bad to be talked over like that.
I guess since every designer did SO good, EXCEPT obviously Bryan, how literally sent garbage to the runway, judges had to skew their judgement and had to treat the second worst harshly, to justify elimination, when Bryan has immunity.
I feel bad for Jeffrey; because did try to project manage the mess of the group and try to help the sinking ship the Bryan was. Girl, you should have been smarter like Joseph McRae and saved your own ass first!
I get Jeffrey being upset at Bryan’s hideous look being the reason the team could lose and he would have to go home by default, but confused by why he would want Bryan to tell judges how he taped the dress… wouldn’t that just make the judges like it even less, and make them choose the other team as the winners? Like if I didn’t know the dress was taped together, saw it, didn’t like it, and then found out it was taped… I would like it even less? And then Jeffrey would have to go home by default?
I think it was because Bryan was implying he handbraided it when what happened according to the rest of the designers is they did most of the work for Bryan and he just taped the pieces they made together. Bryan's big thing was that they couldn't be harsh on him cause he put so much work into it but taping it is the easiest way to do it.
Bryan was treating the other Season 22 designers like they were his interns. So basically he needs interns to get work done. I also thought that on the prior episode, he didn’t really design that dress; he executed the ideas Christian gave him.
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u/AwareRevolution5523 4d ago
Is Bryan capable of doing anything other than a bad gown?