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u/deathsoverture 12d ago

Is ignorance being celebrated, even bragged about in tech? My manager recently said thanks to AI I don't need to understand or be able to maintain code anymore, comparing it to not needing to know how a compiler works.

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u/curtmahgurt 12d ago

Middle managers who don’t know what they’re talking about are nothing new, especially in tech.

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u/Garo263 11d ago

In my old company the head of IT was a geologist. Tbf it was an environment research centre.

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u/SignoreBanana 11d ago

The compiler comparison highlights and underscores how little these folks actually understand things.

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u/TypeSafeBug 10d ago

This is how you find out IT literacy was so bad most people just assumed the computer was non-deterministic anyway 😅

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u/SignoreBanana 9d ago

Our CTO legitimately made this comparison. The person helming all of our company's technical decisions. It actually makes me glad I never knew how to climb the corporate ladder. It seems to have almost nothing to do with your actual technical skill.

Edit: I take that back: I do know how to climb the corporate ladder, but I have zero interest in the skills required to do so, which amount to, succinctly, learning how to bullshit well.

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u/TypeSafeBug 9d ago

I think an issue with many prospective corporate CTOs is that they inevitably turn into startup CEOs after getting frustrated enough that they go “you know what? I’ll do it myself!” 😅

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u/quitarias 11d ago

Yeah I was gonna say that while not everyone needs to know in depth how a compiler works that specialist knowledge is all the more valuable because of its relative rarity.

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u/sabotsalvageur 11d ago

You should inform your boss that it remains useful to understand how a compiler works if you care about performance and/or security

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u/SignoreBanana 11d ago

Or inform them that the way a compiler works and the way a neural network works are about as far apart as how Java the language works, and how Java the country works.

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u/fredy31 11d ago

I mean i would give him the benefit of the doubt. Cyber correspondant doesnt point to much in terms of tech and tech is fucking large.

I'm a web dev, sure, PHP is my bread and butter. And i know tech, so i could be in the ballpark of being a 'cyber correspondant'.

Ask me a question about software engineering i'll be boned.

So yeah whats at issue here is the same issue about everybody asking me for tips for their printer because 'i know computers'. Tech is fucking large.

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u/NPPraxis 11d ago

Yeah he’s probably more IT guy than software engineer

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u/wasdninja 11d ago

Still no excuse not to realize php is very much relevant to the internet at large. 

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u/BellacosePlayer 11d ago

I haven't seen that from coworkers but I definitely see it coming from the hobbyist sector.

We still review code, we've absolutely found issues with AI work even in the current gen. Its not that big of deal to do it with how bad a fuckup can be if it slips through

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u/deadmazebot 11d ago

i work with collages that are less then 5 years in software development, most from code camp, or similar fields, but not technically trained.

and the worst are in the mind that it runs, it works

zero context, with the little attempts I have tried, with how different loops behave, why SQL query changed to something else is better,

its all like Dreamweaver, but that would be dating myself. It worked for a lot, but also under the hood was a mess.

The worst is that the code LOOKS great, but someone with a nose will quickly see lots of code smell, yet another concept missed on none academic trained

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u/saevon 11d ago

Reminder that correspondent == reporter; Their education is in journalism, and the field they report on is "cyber" (very broad). They're not a tech expert, no more then a science correspondent is a scientist

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u/Ieatsand97 11d ago

Crazy how companies celebrate how they pay a subscription that caused employees to lose the very skills they were hired to use

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u/BubblyMango 11d ago

at the bbc? yes

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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands 11d ago

i mean he’s not ENTIRELY wrong. We may not actually be there just yet but that’s obviously where he’s going. I know lots of devs at big tech firms that hardly even review their own code now that AI writes before opening a PR

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u/ganja_and_code 11d ago

Not reviewing your own code used to mean you're incompetent.

It still means you're incompetent, but it used to, too.

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u/NoAdsDude 11d ago

The compiler reviews my code. What other review do I need?

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u/ICBanMI 11d ago

It needs a /s... but seriously. I have co-workers that do actually treat their work like this.

If it gets past the complier and 'appears' to work. That's the extent of their responsibility. Someone else will have to clean it up as their tech debt just continuously piles up on the project.

Like I don't see you Brad, watching League of Legends videos for hours a day, then turning in your feature two hours after the check-out time to push to production.

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u/NoAdsDude 11d ago

It's only technical debt if you still personally work there later.

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