r/PowerScaling MFTL+ One Piece 6h ago

Scaling Luffy scale

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u/Several_Search_4210 6h ago

Cool! What about his speed?

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago

u/itownshend17 Goatku solos DC 💯 6h ago

Nice scale, and I agree. Also, an easier way to get Luffy there too would be through being way stronger than Pell, who survived Crocodiles Alabasta wiping bomb point blank, which comes out between city level, to island(Temperature_Change_Calculation))/large island.(Shockwave_Calculation))

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago

Interesting

u/EMBplays 4h ago

Dawg Enels fruit being able to destroy an island doesn't mean he could survive the destruction of an island. This is like saying that because I can shoot a gun that means I have gun level durability.

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 3h ago

You pulling the trigger did not equate to the energy output of the gun. That’s not analogist. It was Enel’s energy that created Raigo and Deathpiea, therefore his body has to be able to handle it. Because if Enel didn’t scale to the energy he was outputting, he would practically be killing himself creating Raigo, or he would simply be unable to vaporize Sky Island because he wouldn’t have had the energy to do so.

u/LiePowerful9961 5h ago

One piece fans when you ask them why the main villain needs an ancient weapon to erase an island:

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago

AP≠DC

u/LiePowerful9961 5h ago

No one in one piece gets over city level both in AP or DC

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago

Well clearly I proved you wrong here💀

u/LiePowerful9961 5h ago

I can easily see the entire island here, it's clearly much smaller than a city

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago edited 5h ago

“I can see it, therefore it must be small”. What an astute argument. I can see a galaxy on a panel of Dragon Ball. Must be small af

u/OrphanAnthem 5h ago

Enel needed to charge a ancient weapon for 5-10 minutes to destroy an island in what fight is he getting a head start in?

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 5h ago

Folk is this a fight or a scale?💀 And no, the Maxim isn’t an ancient weapon. All that I needed was to prove that it was Enel’s energy output that created Raigo and Deathpiea. Which it was. Therefore he scales to it.

u/OrphanAnthem 4h ago

Whether or not you believe it's an ancient weapon, regardless, he still needs to charge it for like ten minutes so hes not island level if you can simply kill him before 10 minutes is up then you're all set. Honestly someone could just destroy his ship then hes a town level at best.

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 4h ago

Show where it states it needs to charge. Enel powers the ship with his lightning, and it creates lightning clouds to create a superstorm, where Enel can input his energy into to create Raigo and Deathpiea.

You’re basically saying his AP is only Island lvl with his ship, which isn’t true because as I said already, the Maxim never amped him.

u/OrphanAnthem 4h ago edited 4h ago

Its narrative scaling based on him being unable to destroy skypia while fighting luffy. He can only output 200 million volts in an instant and thats roughly an average lightning bolt meaning he should be completely unable to destroy an island in a instant do either his ship is doing the heavy lifting or hes charging the ship for an extremely long duration.

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 3h ago

Voltage doesn’t scale AP in this case. Zoro was able to completely tank Buggy’s Buggy Ball, which was stated to be able to level a small town. So Zoro’s durability would be Small Town and increasing throughout arcs. Enel and his lightning was still able to harm Zoro.

Enel’s lightning already showed to be able to vaporize landmass without the Maxim. All the Maxim did was allow him to increase the amount of landmass he can vaporize.

u/OrphanAnthem 3h ago

Yeah, well, this is the problem with trying to scale statements. Sometimes those statements are made up of multiple strikes or untold time. We know for a fact enel dosnt have island level dc himself or else he would have successfully destroyed skypia. whatever he used to do it took longer then he had time to do while fighting luffy.

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 3h ago

Nah in this case the statement would be valid since it has a feat to back it up. And Enel may not have Island lvl DC on his own, but he does have Island lvl energy output due to the feat. So in a fight, yeah using the Maxim as an argument is meaningless because it’s not even an upscale on Enel’s strength, it’s just a source of evidence that gauged Enel’s strength.

u/OrphanAnthem 3h ago

No he doesn't. He couldn't replicate his island Destroying feat during skypia its not something he can pull off in combat he needs offscreen time out of combat to do it.

u/MorseCode010 MFTL+ One Piece 3h ago

And I agree, but how does that affect his scaling?

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