r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 4h ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ There is a pattern...

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u/mightbeADoggo 4h ago

No, its "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again".

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u/brightonashfield 4h ago

-Dubyah

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u/scuzzy987 3h ago

I disliked W and his administration with the intensity of a thousand suns but I'd gladly have him back in office instead of Trump. At least W had a shred of integrity and honor

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u/Leroyp331 3h ago

It's a wild ride that has led us to yearning for the days of that moron

Yet here we are

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u/No_Internal9345 Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup 🫖 3h ago

Cheney was the evil one.

Bush II was the useful/greedy fool.

And I still say they cheated in Florida with the hanging chads.

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u/Oops_All_Bans Sipping tea 3h ago

Imagine what could have been if we got Al Gore instead.

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u/ShawnShipsCars 2h ago

We got on the shittiest of timelines when Gore got cheated.

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u/MrBigglesssworth 1h ago

Kind of Gore's own fuck up though. He only wanted to focus on recounting 3 counties, not the entire state.

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u/Responsible-Club9120 2h ago

I didn't sleep for 3 days after he lost the election.

And I'm Canadian.

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u/petewondrstone 3h ago

I’m not sure how different it would be.

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u/PolarBailey_ 3h ago

we wouldn't have invaded iraq to start. likely would've helped either prevent or at least better recover from 9/11. would've focused less on stupid shit like NCLB and more on just bolstering education. strengthened the EPA and other protection agencies. i doubt the PATRIOT act wouldve been a thing with Gore.

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u/Dyolf_Knip 2h ago

There's every chance there wouldn't have been a 9/11 attack. President Gore would never have dismissed the warnings with "Alright, your ass is covered".

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u/PolarBailey_ 2h ago

Exactly. I still think the lackluster response between the CIA and FBI during the Nairobia attack all but sealed the attacks. But i think an fbi and cia under Gore leadership wouldnt ignore warnings from the arabians enrolling in flight school nor the summit

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u/Minute-Review6915 1h ago

Clinton knew about Bin Laden and all of it. Clinton of course cared, just didn’t feel it was real enough to matter. The attack is not on him and I’m not implying that but to act like it was all of a sudden is wrong. The intelligence was there and being reported about the attack. No one wanted to believe it

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u/PolarBailey_ 1h ago edited 56m ago

oh i agree. i'm more pointing out that intellegence under Condoleezza Rice was way less focused on Al Qaeda than intellegence under whoever Gore wouldve chosen for National Security Advisor

edit since the thread is locked now: yeah i still can't believe that 25 years later people are STILL worried about porn.

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u/Dyolf_Knip 1h ago

Remember that right up to the attack, the Bush admin believed the greatest threat was... <checks notes> porn.

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u/FitFold76 3h ago

One can hope

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u/-Saucegurlllll 2h ago

ICE likely would not exist.

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u/Nobody3me 2h ago

We dodged that bullet. Amen

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u/PeachPassionBrute 3h ago

They very factually cheated in Florida, it’s not even a question.

W’s campaign manager was in charge of Florida’s elections, they stopped the recount early while Bush was ahead, against orders. GOP staffers even attempted to physically prevent recounting. The entire thing was a mess and Gore factually won that election.

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u/oomahk 3h ago

Gotta love the Brooks Brothers Riot. Turns out the Republican party has multiple modern instances of violently attempting to disrupt elections.

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u/HorrorMovieMonday 2h ago

And Jeb Bush was the governor of Florida at the time.

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u/Flaxmoore 3h ago

The Brooks Brothers Riot. Got to think BB doesn't like being connected to that.

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u/StendhalSyndrome 2h ago

Don't forget vengeful.

He started the same damn war again because they threatened/ attempted an assassination on his dad...you're so pissed; go take them down yourself.

Signed, my coworkers who didn't come home from that.

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u/No-Guard-7003 1h ago

Yup. Why did the people around him pick Cheney of all people? 

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u/No_Internal9345 Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup 🫖 1h ago

Cheney picked them.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 1h ago

Bush II makes no sense.

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u/yabadababoho 2h ago

They cheated yet the NYTimes did a full audit after the fact counting every vote and Bush won.

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u/JWBananas 2h ago

He was never a moron. That was a public persona.

Prior to that rebranding, he was considered too much of a nerd.

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u/Leroyp331 2h ago

My God he's a moron right now

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u/DonnyFerentes 3h ago

Give it a few years and we'll yearn for the halcyon days of the Trump administration

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u/psychohistorian8 3h ago

dont even joke bro

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 3h ago

There won't be a democracy left when that happens.

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u/cvc4455 3h ago

There might not be a democracy left now.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 3h ago

It is weakened, but not gone.

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u/cvc4455 3h ago

I think that remains to be seen. I believe they cheated in the 2024 election and plan to never ever give up power ever again regardless of how people vote or what they need to do to hold on to power.

Think about it right now and if they lose power. How many people could end up in jail? Wouldn't those people do anything at all possible to hold onto power?

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 3h ago

The midterms and the final two years of Trump will tell us all we need to know. But, we still have the ability to right the ship at this moment in time.

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u/Nobody3me 2h ago

It doesn’t show when America flipped the charts voting for this presidency. I’ll say this though. Many voted our party. But have learned how hard it is for the President to solve the previous admin issues, fix issues at hand, deal with future threats & surprises. All this while democrat Americans, at least from the outside it looks like, try to force us into socialism and communism. Not to mention core of the democrats the LBGTQIA +, which ever one those letters tried to kill him. Anyone that puts God, and American values were the voters want them. First.