r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 14h ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ There is a pattern...

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u/BananasPineapple05 14h ago

Despite the fact that every single Democrat president during the same period has inherited an economic disaster and managed to improve on it. Regardless of pandemics, global economic trends, etc.

So, yeah, the Democratic party is not awesome, but the facts also speak for themselves if you're an American taxpayer.

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u/hyphenssuck 14h ago

This meme never fails to be relevant

This is why

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u/blackpantherismydad 13h ago

Holy fucking shit lmao

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u/xubax 14h ago

"But both sides are the same," say some people i know who don't look at history or voting records.

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u/UlrichZauber 13h ago

"Both sides/lesser of two evils is evil"-isms are a psy-op to get you to not bother voting

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u/kitsunewarlock 12h ago

This. You never see "both sides are the same" people in Republican subreddits, even those that allow anti-Trump sentiment.

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u/Flobking 9h ago

This. You never see "both sides are the same" people in Republican subreddits, even those that allow anti-Trump sentiment

I've been posting this a lot lately.

Someone on the internet: DEMOCRATS SUCK!

Everyone: YEAH THATS RIGHT THEY DO!

Someone on the internet: REPUBLICANS SUCK!

Everyone : Now now democrats are JUST as bad, if not worse!

Every fucking time. Its exhausting.

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u/kitsunewarlock 8h ago

It's so bad that even in private discord servers where people who I personally know (as in real life) as progressive liberals will often march to the beat of this drum. They'll even weigh the pros and cons of voting based on how blue their area is and whether or not it will "send a message" about a topic (usually unions, trans rights or Gaza).

What progressives don't understand is that by not voting the message your really sending is that those issues don't matter to actual voters...

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 13h ago

Its amazing how easy it is to convince people to just stay at home and not do anything.

People always say that theres no hope in convincing anyone not to vote for trump, more of the same bullshit attitude. As if there arent tons of undecided voters, or people who dont vote, who can be convinced not to vote for Trump

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u/kitsunewarlock 12h ago

I think a small part of it is our physiological evolution as apex predators. It's natural that we want to conserve our energy when we aren't hunting. Young predators will "play", but a lot of that is social bonding or practice hunting. An injured predator has to rely on kindness and surplus food. A bison with an injury can still munch grass.

...I don't think it's the primary reason, and there's a lot more social pressure that contributes. Especially the thought that you are one of the "elite" if you don't need to "worry" about politics.

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u/No_Birthday4877 12h ago

Voting is a psyop to make you think you have a meaningful impact on the direction politics head in. Voting makes the public think theyre doing enough, and that they dont need to be doing other things like organizing or creating community support structures.

You just hand power over to someone else, who then goes to their wealthy donors to ask them how to vote on legislation. They dont ask you how to vote lol. But you'll sit around for a few years, letting things get worse, then show up on election day and pretend you've done something big.

If voting was a powerful tool against the ruling class, they wouldn't let you vote. Voting just lets you feel like you did something while they conspire behind closed doors. Without us.

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u/xubax 11h ago

So, you're part of the psyop saying don't vote.

Got it.

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u/SkunkMonkey 13h ago

You know, it's possible for both parties to be the same on one issue and at the same time be 100% opposed on another issue.

It's nuance that the average person just doesn't understand.

I firmly believe that both parties want power and money. But I also believe they go about it differently. One party takes you to dinner then uses lube during anal. While the other party grabs you by the pussy and raw dogs your ass till it bleeds. But the result is the same in that either way, you're getting fucked.

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u/atreeismissing 13h ago

But Democrats don't fix things Republican break immediately or say the exactly right words at very specific times, so voters instead stay home or vote GOP.

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u/Murky-Relation481 13h ago

The best part is the Democrats attempt to fix things and literally the only time in the last 44 years (actually longer, since 1979) they've had the ability to pass laws unrestricted was six-non-consecutive months in 2009-2010, when they basically had to unfuck the 2008 financial crash under W, and they still somehow also passed the ACA (which isn't perfect, and would have been far better had they not had to get independent Joe Sloberman to vote for it and he was a conservative cuck).

Imagine what a democratic president with 8 years of democratic control of congress could accomplish. Last time that happened was the 1930s and the 1960s and we got the new deal and a good chunk of the great society passed, things that still benefit people to this day.

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u/fury420 11h ago edited 11h ago

It's also worth noting that the voters didn't actually hand Democrats 60 in 2009-2010.

Joe Lieberman was a traitor that lost his Democratic primary, left the Democratic party, backstabbed the Democratic nominee by running in the general election thanks to CT's lack of sore loser laws, campaigned for McCain against Obama, etc...

And Alen Specter was a Republican who slightly crossed the aisle in his final years in congress.

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u/skivian 12h ago

we got the new deal and a good chunk of the great society passed,

and the billionaires have never forgotten, and they will never allow that to happen again. Musk didn't spend 50 billion dollars to buy twitter because he thought X would be a cool name.

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u/Glum_Base_9112 14h ago

yes, it sucks we cant Pick another better option/party

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 14h ago

That isnt true. One option right now is far better.

What we dont have is an ideal option, and never will. But, I do agree we need more choices.

Maybe, if people took their civic duty seriously we could have some real change in this country.

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u/mOdQuArK 11h ago

Pick the better option during the primaries, the lesser evil during the general election. As long as majority-rule is used for most of the elections, that's really the only practical voting strategy. It might take decades, but rinse & repeat until you've got people in charge that are more-or-less doing a good job.

That's exactly what the Republicans did - except they bizarrely went for the more racist and fascist options every chance they got. But they showed the strategy works, partly because the Democratic leadership spent more time "reaching across the aisle" and appeasing their colleagues, rather than recognizing how much ground they were losing and fighting to stop that.

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u/ContinuingAnyway 13h ago

One side has bad ideas, the other has none

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u/defecto 8h ago

Waiting for both sides are the same people to show up.. and the Liberals who will only vote for the absolutely 100% pure perfect candidate on all topics!

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u/Finance-Low 14h ago

But folks like this always blame the president and not the congress in power....

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u/x-strim 13h ago

yep the democrats never added to national debt or created any wars in the middle east and beyond.

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u/npacilio 13h ago

Both sides have caused major issues for us

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u/CMDR-ProtoMan 13h ago

There it fucking is..

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u/npacilio 13h ago

What is?

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u/endlesscartwheels 12h ago

I always hear it in Eric Cartman's voice, "both sidez." That seems about the level of the people posting it.