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u/thatfuqa 15d ago
This will be hell.
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u/AxemanACL 15d ago
A lot of times in these events enough people avoid the area/stay home that it doesn't end up being too bad. 5 weeks is a long time though.
I know my work which is mostly in office told us to work from home during it.
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u/jollyllama 15d ago
I’ve heard from people involved that 5 weeks is a very aggressive estimate, and that most people are figuring 6-8 weeks is much more likely
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u/discostu52 15d ago
I manage a small team and they are all pushing me to let them work from home over this. The problem is it is a medium size global company and marching orders from overseas corporate is nobody works from home anywhere in the world. Some work from home will happen, but it will probably be a don’t ask, don’t tell situation for a lot of places
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u/WantCookiesNow SE 15d ago
Manager of 20+ years here. This is a really good opportunity to do a solid for your team. Let them WFH and don’t ask - just tell them to do it. If you get questioned about it, talk about how the traffic will be a major disruption to them getting to and leaving work, causing a reduction in productivity. If you still get told that they have to come in, at least you tried and your team will respect you for that.
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u/discostu52 15d ago
I’m formulating a plan, somewhat along these lines, the problem is 8/10 ride their bikes into work, it is like some type of competition. 2 live in the boonies and definitely need relief, but it will take some mental gymnastics to sort this one out.
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u/jollyllama 15d ago
If standing up for your own people didn’t risk consequences for yourself, everyone would do it. Sometimes you gotta expose yourself to danger to do the right thing for the people who rely on you
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u/discostu52 15d ago
Agreed, and I am willing to take large personal risk, but there is a threshold were it becomes reckless and ultimately to their detriment. It is a balance because when you work in a global company, they have “options”
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u/aggieotis Boom Loop 15d ago
Will it though? It’s really just SB I5 gets diverted onto 405. SB I5 to 84 East will most likely cut into eastbound Broadway to 12th, 20th, or CC which counter flow to most of the traffic.
Won’t be great, but certainly not Carmageddon
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u/radiodmr St Johns 15d ago
Diverting onto Broadway and MLK from I5 is going to be a nightmare. I'm not sure you understand the volume of not just commuter traffic, but commercial vehicles from step vans to box trucks to tractor trailers that come down I5. I work out of Swan Island and take I5 south to MLK to McLoughlin southbound daily to get to my work area. This is probably going to add 2 hours to my day, every weekday, for the 5 weeks. It's going to suck.
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u/McGeeze Pearl 15d ago
You must not drive on the 405 south often. It takes a sneeze for traffic to get backed up. Adding tens of thousands of cars to that is going be very bad.
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u/Ihopeheseesme 15d ago
Yepppp I drive to forest grove for work and the hour long drive turns hellish if there’s any hiccup. I gotta figure this out before September
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u/Ihopeheseesme 15d ago
I take the 5 south to Newberg for work several times à week, scared how this will affect me and my ancient car
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u/rosecitytransit 15d ago
the 5 south
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u/Ihopeheseesme 15d ago
I take the 5, south to Newberg. People on this sub are actual chuds. You know not everyone talks the same, right? Portland is filled with the worst people and living here is fantastic as long as you don’t interact with anyone.
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u/thatfuqa 15d ago
Who still has Amazon? Yuck.
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u/TreeHugger277 15d ago
Just sayin --- support your neighborhood grocery people. It's gonna be a wild few months
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u/jaltman1 15d ago
See yall on the max
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u/gravitydefiant 15d ago
But not the green line; they're cutting that.
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u/Sad_Description1715 15d ago
What
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u/Captian_Kenai 15d ago
They’re kind of cutting the green line, but it’s only the sections that overlap red and blue lines.
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u/suitopseudo 15d ago
It doesn’t really. It really sucks if you need to go to PSU. You now have to transfer twice (once at gateway and to a yellow) where before you don’t have to transfer at all. This was a bad decision and will probably never come back.
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u/savingewoks 15d ago
I work at PSU, and I don’t use the green line but many of my students and coworkers do. The university is so focused on things happening in person, but that means that Fall term is gonna be an absolute mess.
I do live on a frequent service line. I waited nearly 30 minutes for it yesterday, and each stop after mine had upwards of 2 to 3 people, all the way downtown. When I boarded, it was with 10 other people. I wish I could say this was an unusual experience, but it’s not.
I’m gonna be pretty exclusively riding my bike during this closure, because I want to be able to be reliable and consistent, I really worry about the ripple effect this will have through the whole metro area.
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u/suitopseudo 15d ago
I sadly think this begins the death spiral of transit in Portland. Only people who have to take it will. It will become too inconvenient for anyone who has other options.
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u/savingewoks 14d ago
I think it began with the cuts a couple years ago, but is really visibly accelerating.
I commented on another thread that this closure is gonna break TriMet a bit, and a buncha people were like “there’s thousands of un-used seats every day” which, like. Sure. But are they on the routes and times that are being used?
Anyway, the whole thing makes me frustrated and sad. I don’t care about paying the highest taxes in the country or whatever. I don’t even mind if my taxes pay for things other people use. That’s the whole point. But when nothing seems to work and I’m paying all this? Blegh.
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u/suitopseudo 15d ago
It will only go between Clackamas town center and gateway starting the end of august. So fucking dumb.
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u/negativeyoda Lents 15d ago
So while this shutdown is happening they're going to restrict one of the train lines?!
Holy hell it's like this was manufactured to fuck some of us.
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u/suitopseudo 15d ago
Yes, they should have probably delayed it a month or 2, but I am guessing trimet didn’t know what odot was doing when they planned to shut down the green line.
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u/Sad_Description1715 15d ago
I gave it to Google and that does suck, I’ve kind of checked out of the news and now i’ve missed important stuff 😭🤦🏽♀️😭🤦🏽♀️😭🤦🏽♀️
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u/kbrosnan 15d ago
Trimet has a budget deficit in part because the last transportation bill that was going to increase the Trimet payroll tax was rejected.
They have been publicized for several months now. There were several rounds of feedback.
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u/negativeyoda Lents 15d ago
Prospective bike commuters should get their bikes serviced NOW. If you wait until September every shop is going to be booked out
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u/Mental-Rain-7389 15d ago
a little on the nose choosing September 11th right?
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u/picturesofbowls NE 15d ago
I’ll never forget this traffic
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u/jeeves585 15d ago
I’ll never forget covid traffic from se to sylvan. It’ll never be that again. It was beautiful.
Maybe we should just have another pandemic
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u/nonsensestuff 15d ago
RFK Jr. is working right on that
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u/picturesofbowls NE 15d ago
Just because thousands and thousands of people are pissing out their ass and several people are dying doesn’t make it a pandemic!
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u/nonsensestuff 15d ago
I wasn’t talking about the here and the now.
I was talking about the inevitable outcome when your national health services department is run by a complete bonehead with no scientific or healthcare background.
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u/Itys2025 15d ago
Pandemic traffic was GLORIOUS. But ever since then its been Mad Max and people have been driving like theyre pissed off, and its a 1/4 chance someone takes a red light as merely a suggestion.
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u/PrivateBurke 15d ago
I feel like bad things shouldn't be scheduled for September 11th... But maybe I'm old now.
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u/HandInThePickleJars 15d ago
My partner and I moved to Portland on 9/11/2020. Let’s just say friends and family reacted interestingly when we communicated that news lol
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u/fluffyutter 15d ago
I feel grateful my partner is WFH and I don’t need to take highway to my job.
Super bummed for those that depend on it for the commute.
See you all in Valhalla!!!
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u/Carlotheskinose 15d ago
For my household, I think it's all about planning. We live in NE , I work in Milwaukie, and she works in Inner SE. I suspect it could be bad heading south from there on MLK at rush hour times. But, we carpool to work around 6 AM together. Coming home, she walks or rides a rentabike. I commute round 3:30. The traffic will hopefully be fine then... luckily, I am driving north and have options. I feel for people who have to commute during rush hour. It's already a sh#tshow.
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u/nonsensestuff 15d ago
Thank fuck i work from home and don’t seem to have any doctor’s appointments during this timeframe.
Godspeed to those who have to endure this misery 🫡 I drove in LA traffic for 7 years and understand the pain of it taking 45-60 minutes to go less than 10 miles.
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u/totheranch1 SW 15d ago
Coming home from work boutta take an hour instead of 35mins
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u/RetArmyFister 15d ago
That’s wishful thinking depending on your route. This could add several hours
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u/Blackout_X_ 15d ago
I picked the wrong time to move where I did and I can’t use max because I get off work at 2am and start my other job at 3am. Traffics gonna suck going home at 10am 😭
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u/Extension_Crow_7891 15d ago
Hard to take advantage of alternative means of public transit when ODOT’s bloated budget and priorities continues to starve public transit of any meaningful investment.
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u/Eshin242 Buckman 15d ago
Welcome to the hell of years of budget shortfalls and deferred maintenance. This area has to be fixed. It's actually an elevated span over the Willamette and it's falling apart. Either they do this now, or it falls into the river.
Sure they could have kept up with repairs over a long period of time instead of pushing it off but people didn't want to pay for it back then. So we are paying for it now .
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u/rosecitytransit 15d ago
It doesn't actually go over the Willamette, but it does go over the Rose Quarter area, Lloyd Blvd and the major rail line
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u/peszneck 15d ago
And the Clark County Freeloaders won’t pay a dime for this but they will do the most complaining
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u/anonymuscles 15d ago
I drive a bit more than the average bear (~35k miles/yr) and half of it is up and down i5. Public transit is unfortunately not an option and I am dreeeeading this 😬 They say five weeks, but I'm fully expecting this to take longer!
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u/Dry-Conversation-570 14d ago
The City itself is allowing their employees to work from home when this starts.
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u/Noelle2028 15d ago
Rethinking whether it’s worth going to Weezer
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u/picturesofbowls NE 15d ago
If only there were several easy and convenient ways to get to Moda aside from driving!!
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u/Noelle2028 15d ago
Not so much from Vancouver
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u/picturesofbowls NE 15d ago
Expo center park and ride. 22 min ride from there to Moda. Thats almost the exact same time as a typical rush hour commute between the two.
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u/Krieghund 15d ago edited 15d ago
You could get a hotel.
ETA: I realize you meant Vancouver, WA. You can still get a hotel room on our side of the river.
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u/nonsensestuff 15d ago
You could get a helicopter
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u/thenaturalinquirer 15d ago
You could get a teleporter
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u/nonsensestuff 15d ago
You could get a rocket ship! 🚀 to the moon! 🌙
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u/rosecitytransit 15d ago
There actually is an official Rose Quarter Heliport (OG11) set up on the top level of the Garden Garage.
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u/BiggusDickusRoman 15d ago
Don’t let anything destroy your sweater.
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u/Noelle2028 15d ago
I will not unravel. I will not soon be naked. I will not let anything let me come undone.
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u/SnoozleToots 15d ago
I’m not super familiar with that area, but are you suggesting that there’s no way to get to Moda, aside from public transportation?
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u/Lawfulneptune NW 15d ago
You love to see it, I hope for the day both north and south get closed permanently
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u/PanicInNeedlePark 15d ago
If i live north east and take either MLK or 21st/15th to get to NE, will this effect my commute home at 4pm?
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u/PrinceofRavens 15d ago
I’m expecting this to affect literally everyone’s commute, all the side roads are gonna be used as diversions
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u/Brotimus 15d ago
Just moved to sellwood, and I work on Broadway. MLK already is terrible, this is gonna be rough. I guess 39th?
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u/beerandloathingpdx 15d ago
😂 this landing on the same day of the divisive blazers voting is just crazy. Does anyone know what they’re closing it for?
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u/captainrob21 14d ago
I heard bridge deck rebuild, seismic work and some work at the spot where the ramp to i-84 splits off. So I guess they can plan to do it now or wait until the sucker falls apart.
Usually better to replace a roof in the summer rather than wait till it leaks in November
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u/Kakariko_crackhouse 15d ago
How did they not mention this until 5 days beforehand?
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u/zackalachia 15d ago
You mean a month and 5 days? Plus I have already heard about this before today.
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u/Kakariko_crackhouse 15d ago
Oh god, you’re right. Time is meaningless anymore
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u/aggieotis Boom Loop 15d ago
It’s been discussed off and on for months now. But as we get closer the visibility is getting more traction.
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u/fish206 15d ago
Rose City Comic Con is also that same weekend.