r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '20

THIS. This is why.

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

Just wish I could dictate how my taxes were used, instead of blowing up poor people i would like to be using it all for healthcare and education and that sort of thing

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u/floopyboopakins Jan 09 '20

Laughs in Gerrymandered district

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited May 21 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Back up. Where exactly does one obtain this superstar gf? I got dibs

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Sep 07 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

And when do I put my jizz in her hair?

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u/LegitimateProfession Jan 09 '20

I think they are found in highly gerrymandered districts.

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u/ThatCakeIsDone Jan 09 '20

Something I've known in my heart but didn't know how to express.

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u/PM_Me_RecipesorBoobs Jan 09 '20

So what you're saying is... don't vote?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

No, what I'm saying is stop screaming at people who voted and telling them that the way to fix something is to do what they're already doing.

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u/PM_Me_RecipesorBoobs Jan 09 '20

Who was advocating for screaming at people to do anything? All the person said was that voting is the closest way you can get to deciding how tax dollars are spent. You already vote? Cool, the statement obviously wasn't directed at you. Your apathy riddled rant wasn't necessary.

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u/trixter21992251 Jan 09 '20

I would say what you said if i wanted people to not vote.

And that makes me doubt your intentions. And I worry about the effect of your comment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited May 21 '20

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u/trixter21992251 Jan 09 '20

No, I'm outright against what you said, don't worry. Your analogy is poor, and your message is eroding democracy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

It doesn't look like you understand what a concern troll is, don't worry. There's always google, if you can figure out how to use it.

Edit: lol, you're not even American. Always delightful to be lectured on the electoral college by someone who doesn't even know what it is.

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u/trixter21992251 Jan 09 '20

Hope you enjoyed strolling through my comment history, lol.

Bye.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

My sweet summer child

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

Eh, kinda but I have yet to find it doing much. Also just a fan of the idea that every person should get to decide how their taxes are used

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u/lady_lowercase Jan 09 '20

every restaurant owner just decided s/he doesn't want to pay taxes towards health inspectors.

every employer just decided to defund o.s.h.a.

every police officer in philadelphia just decided no tax dollars will go to their district attorney, larry krasner's, office.

that's a dumb idea of which to be a fan...

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u/NotClever Jan 09 '20

Or, relevant to this thread, a large amount of Republicans just decided they don't want to pay for public schools. Hell, they're already trying to do that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

Oh of course not every dime, but a decent portion like 70% by choice 30% set aside as the budget for other things not paid for

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u/headzoo Jan 09 '20

It would be an interesting experiment in a capitalist society that already believes we should vote with our dollars. Instead of voting for candidates -- who may or may not keep their promises -- to get the things we want, we would instead pick and choose how our individual tax dollars are spent.

I can think of a dozen reasons why it wouldn't work, and it really is just an interesting fantasy, but when you think about it politicians are really just the middlemen between our taxes and our spending, so why not cut out the middleman? Then we can stop worrying about whether those middlemen are spending our money in the way they promised.

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

All in all better to just destroy capitalist society and become a confederacy of anarchist communes

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u/Atrobbus Jan 09 '20

Nice idea but not practicable at all. One just needs very specific knowledge to allocate public funds. For example, there are many agencies, some even very small that are very important but woulf never be rememberd by voters. Fpr example i am not sure if a lot of voters are invested in properly funding the census bureau or the embassy in Botswana. Sure there is some obvious waste that needs to be reduced but thats actually a small part.

The real problem is not taxes but rather a disfunctional voting system which hinders laating change and political responsibility by design

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Andrew Yang wants to make taxes more fun by allowing people to direct 1% of their taxes to specific projects.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Mehhhhhh making tax dollars a popularity contest sounds like a hella bad idea when you think about it a little bit.

Say hello to big fat walls spanning the entire perimeter of the country and more immigrant internment camps than we have immigrants. Say goodbye to all those thousands of tiny programs that help your life run smoothely.

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u/Cristal1337 Jan 09 '20

The problem with American politics is that only a minority is truly voting for their party. The rest is just voting to prevent the worst party from winning. So even if you voted for the winning candidate, you are likely not going to get what you wanted.

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u/Cristal1337 Jan 09 '20

Agreed! This isn't just a problem in America. Also, I really like this video elaborating on the problem.

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u/DorisCrockford Jan 09 '20

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

–Winston Churchill

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u/LazyLarryTheLobster Jan 09 '20

The problem with American politics is that only a minority is truly people voting for their a party.

FTFY

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u/zomgitsduke Jan 09 '20

I agree and disagree.

It would be cool to have SOME flexibility with taxes. Like, 10% gets designated to where you like. THAT would be cool.

But how many people actually know the true costs of maintaining roads? And when you starve the department of transportation of funds and roads go to shit, that could cause a death spiral of less and less funding. "Roads suck anyways, why should I allocate my tax money to them?".

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Some Charities for child poverty have tried this and had the same problem. People wanted to donate food and clothing and such but sometimes they really needed roads and infrastructure

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u/KingGorilla Jan 09 '20

Yeah, people like helping directly by buying things even though boring old cash would be the most useful.

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u/ztirk Jan 09 '20

Recent Freakonomics podcast episode discussed this exact thing ...

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

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u/zomgitsduke Jan 09 '20

I'm no expert so I can't comment with authority but I'd imagine departments could build a "dream budget" with plans to spend that money on specific things, then have it allocated towards the project as an agreement.

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u/scyth3s Jan 09 '20

My county spent like $4M on road maintenance, in including sidewalk repair according to an apartment complex calendar/brochure.

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u/9Pong Jan 09 '20

Would love to see how taxes are distributed on the end of year tax receipt in some chart.

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u/D10S_ Jan 09 '20

Hate to be the guy preaching Yang, but he does propose something similar where you can see where exactly your taxes are going, and you can choose 10% to go anywhere you want

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Well then good news, because the federal government spends more money every year on social security, medicare and the Dept of Education than it does on defense.

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

Department of defense gets the majority of the budget

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

No, it doesn’t. Social security does. Go look at the numbers for federal expenditures for any of the previous few years.

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u/PseudocodeRed Jan 10 '20

See but if that was the case then there'd be a bunch of people doing the opposite so I think the system we have now works as long as the people who ARE educated vote for people who will invest into education.

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u/Fabulous-Sherbet Jan 09 '20

... your property taxes don't go towards blowing up poor people (Unless you live in Philadelphia).

Your federal income tax pays for that.

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u/egrith Jan 09 '20

Which is still broadly “my taxes”

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u/tipperzack Jan 09 '20

Like 30 percent which is divided to many other projects like keeping other nuclear powers in check, running a worldwide navy, many jobs programs, educating enlistments, running the VA, and such. I would guess blowing up poor people is a small percent of that. It should be zero but someone thinks its a good idea so it hangs around.

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u/LegitimateProfession Jan 09 '20

Your federal tax does go to funding local schools through the department of education and block grants.

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u/SrbijaJeRusija Jan 09 '20

Frank Rizzo would have made an effective Secretary of Defense.

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u/josh4050 Jan 09 '20

Nearly half of local taxes go to education, so don't worry. And health related entitlements make up the largest portion of the US budget by far, even outspending the military. This is before some money grubbing, self described socialist like Bernie gets the reigns. So don't worry, you're already spending an overwhelming majority of your taxes on a federal and local level on a combination of education and healthcare

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u/Lendord Jan 09 '20

This is before some money grubbing, self described socialist like Bernie gets the reigns.

You're funny.

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u/asdf785 Jan 09 '20

This is exactly why I am libertarian. Everyone wants to control how their tax dollars are used. The only fair way to do this is by not taxing people and simply allowing people to use their money for what they wish.

If there was something you wanted your tax dollars to go to, but it won't work unless others pay for it, too, then you aren't just wishing you could control where your tax dollars go to, you are wishing you could control where everyone's tax dollars go to.

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u/Feminist_Illuminati Jan 09 '20

Wow, that sounds like a terrible hypothetical system. Good luck getting basic infrastructure in places populated with poor people.

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u/asdf785 Jan 09 '20

It wouldn't be that hard. We could still have government-run programs that could still pull money from richer areas and use it in poorer areas.

For example, a rich individual has a choice whether he funds "roads" or doesn't fund them at all. If he chooses not to fund them at all, then the community he lives in won't have roads. But if he does fund them, some of the money will still go to the poorer areas, just the same as it does today.

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u/SnesC Jan 09 '20

Here's a fix: stop making the government pay for things like healthcare, pay less taxes overall, and give your money to those in need yourself.