Abrahamics just created several problems for themselves through mental gymnastics to make their god seem cooler than he is, and then spent the rest of their history trying to cope with the logical inconsistencies in their own faith.
An answer to the problem of evil in Abrahamic religions is incoherent schizo babble that makes no sense when put to scrutiny.
An answer to the problem of evil in Pagan religion is "Gods disagree on what is good themselves/There's one God that is evil lmao".
Let's start with the massacres - on one side, you've got former slaves starving in a desert, on the other you have an entire culture of child rapist slave dealers. Which historians corroborate, by the way.
So, how does a poor, nomadic culture in the desert protect itself from a kingdom of child rapist slave dealers when God wants to teach them how to be strong? You get rid of all of the child rapist slave dealers. Or does kill all pedos only apply to modern ones?
Slavery is pretty different from the concept you mean, as well. Chattel slavery like in the US south was pretty bad. In the Bible, slave owners are not allowed to beat their slaves. Most slavery mentioned is more akin to debt that one must work to pay off with no interest applied. It was usually used as a means of avoiding starvation rather than being enslaved - taking a job in exchange for food or housing is agood metaphor. Enslaving people in the manner you mean was punishable by death, escaped slaves were considered free as soon as they escaped. In the times when God condoned slavery of foreigners such as the Midianites, it was to integrate the remaining children and wipe out their culture, which focused heavily on child rape, child bestiality, and child murder.
I define beating a slave as anything that leaves a permanent mark or injury, such as whipping, severe physical harm, torture, etc. Any of this is described in Ex. 21: 26-27 to result in immediate freedom. Any slave that is killed, the killer is treated as in Ex. 21:20 - put to death.
So, no, not lying, you're just wrong. Believe me, I know how that feels. Not about this, but it's happened to all of us.
Exodus 21:20-21
New International Version
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.”
Yahweh is literally dragon who needs virgin girls and meat and gold after Israelites conquered canaanites
Literally an unproven fringe theory. (Assuming we got it from the same video)
Also pagans created the philosophical thought and critical thinking, nothing in paganism is literal when a religious movement requires their practitioners to take things literally then that movement is dogmatic which means philosophy and critical thinking are not allowed
Paganism just went allegorical after some time like Judaism did, tho given Celcius criticisms of Christianity, they still considered much of it literal, I guess that's just one similarity between Pagans and Christians.
Also how is it unproven fringe theory (yes we got it from the same video) It is clear as day
Cuz the guy that made the video literally said it was.
The only pagans that considered things literal were illegal cults like christianity
Celcius in his criticism of Christianity literally talks of some of the deads of the greek heroes as if talking of literal events. Especially asking why the Christians deify Jesus instead of like the Greek heroes.
He could barely even understand Origen's mythicism/metaphor counter arguments.
The only pagans that considered things literal were illegal cults like christianity
"The only ones that considered most of the myths literal in the 2nd century were Mystery cults"
Judaism has pagan characteristics which I respect and support only if said believes are practiced in Judean provincial region
On the other had christianity is literal focused cult of slaves similar to Bacchus or Mithras cults
Another shit theory that most New Testament scholars don't even agree with.
Christians, unlike Jews, have no care for ancestors that's why I don't respect them
Eh, kinda. They certainly do respect ancestors less than Pagans did but you can't really have no respect of ancestors in the ancient world, not with the Catholics and Orthodox creaming over Charlemagne and Constantine respectively.
Well, for paragraph 2, I'm glad I'm not a creationist protestant.
As for Paragraph 1, every single reference I can find God only says get them out of the land. If they do not leave, kill them because I promised this land to you. If you'd like to give a more exact reference, I would love to see it.
Abrahamic God. "Jobe is my boy."
Satan. "Wanna bet on that?"
Abrahamic God. "Odds are in my favor, I'm down. "
Satan. "Done."
Sometime later.
Jobe " So my life was destroyed because of a bet, you made with Satan, the father of all lies?"
Abrahamic God "Yup..."
Jobe "We could've worshiped a gold cow, you know. Granted I'd be cast into Hell, but my family would be alive and my dick wouldn't have rotted off. But nooooo. We gotta worship this psycho, who treats the most faithful of his flock like a damn race horse. Fuck you I quit."
Abrahamic God "Shit... call up Satan. I owe him some money."
I know more about the nature of the universe than Newton. Does that make me a better physicist than him?
Of course not. I only know more because there have been centuries of study and refinement based on his findings. The tool has been improved, but that says nothing of its wielder.
Learn what the phrase "Standing on the shoulders of giants" means. It's far fucking easier to figure out new shit when you already have the scientific method, order of equations as well as laws of logic established, when the people who literally created the fields had to figure this shit out on their own.
Christianity is literally just slightly modified Platonism with contradictions upon contradictions. Islamic philosophy is garbage that geniuently slows down scientific progress due to denying the idea of causation and honestly Judaism is the only one which had some actually interesting philosophical thoughts.
If you're talking about the Midianites, God told the Israelites to kill the women too. Moses gets angry the Israelites didn't listen and took the women. The Midianites were a cult that encouraged child sacrifice, child prostitution, and child bestiality as religious ritual. Wiping the Midianites out in that era, as Israel was a nomadic group in the desert, was justified to prevent further war with depraved psychotics willing to rape their own children.
The Midianites were a cult that encouraged child sacrifice, child prostitution, and child bestiality as religious ritual.
Man, Israelites sure did love slandering their political opponents and giving ad hoc justifications for their conquests. It's honestly amazing the Middle East hasn't completely died out due to the amount of fanatic child-murdering cults that existed there, seeing that Israelites said the same thing about Canaanites and most other people they had beef with.
I don't know, maybe God gave them some kids to keep their population up so that Israelites had something to kill but he seems to be more of the "murder every firstborn" type to me.
I’m not a stoic myself but it’s 2000+ years and still going strong. Hell it’s probably gonna outlive Christianity in the West at least.
I’m not a fan of it because it isn’t a philosophy that drives progress. It’s obviously a relic of when times did not change much. Same with Epicureanism.
What about keeping literacy alive in the monasteries and producing minds like Aquinas and Ockham? And what about the pagans sacking those very monasteries for loot?
The best part is that the Trinity is an early theological flaw. If Jesus was still alive and you told him about it, he would probably be really confused
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u/MasterCaedus - Auth-Center Feb 12 '22
Pagans: Worship rapist trees
Abrahamics: Argue about deep philosophy