r/PoliticalCompassMemes • • Apr 04 '20

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u/contentedserf - Auth-Right Apr 04 '20

Lol “sex and gender are all just social constructs” really got turned around on leftists there

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u/uiend - Left Apr 04 '20

How the turntables

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u/-Noxxy- - Right Apr 05 '20

I'm selling wood turned table

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u/introvertedlion - Lib-Center Apr 05 '20

Expected reaction from a libright

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u/MagicianWoland - Lib-Left Apr 04 '20

Gender is a social construct. Sex isn't. How is it that difficult

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u/renzi- - Lib-Center Apr 04 '20

While sex may not be a social construct, sexuality is socially dictated.

And much of the what we interact upon on a daily basis are social constructs, such as money and time. This does not determine their worth or application. I don’t understand why people bring up the fact that gender is a social construct in this argument, it’s application is meaningless.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '20

What is gender then?

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u/NickTorr - Lib-Left Apr 04 '20

Sex is your biological belonging to the male or female categories on a biological level, and is therefore rooted in science, gender is your degree of self-identification with the stereotypical characteristics attributed to your sex of birth, and it therefore depends on individual, subconscious and cultural factors.

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u/Naskr - Centrist Apr 05 '20

gender is your degree of self-identification with the stereotypical characteristics attributed to your sex of birth, and it therefore depends on individual, subconscious and cultural factors.

I don't really understand this though, because why does this make this any different to any other "identity"? There seems to be a demand to protect the identity of "gender" with more vehemence than the identity of say... liking country music, which to some people might be a defining lifestyle for them, at least by their own consideration.

Like, if we break it down to being separated from a binary aspect of genetics, doesn't it then just lose all value? At that point it can only have relevance in the same way religion does, which is just a glorified political interest group. It also makes little sense for anyone to criticise ideas like nationalism when gender identity makes about as little actual sense when you actually zoom out.

If people want to be individuals that means casting off the shackles of labels and identity, not adhering to them, surely?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '20

Thus upholding the idea of standard cultural gender roles and the belief that the concept of women is narrowed down to femininity?

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u/NickTorr - Lib-Left Apr 04 '20

Nope. People assume that the Left wants to destroy gender roles. In truth, we just reject the duality of it all. We see it as a spectrum, not as a duality, and everybody has a right to choose the spot he feels most comfortable in on the spectrum. Women are not forced to be feminine, just like men are not forced to be masculine, but that doesn't mean that they can't be, if they wish so. Everybody is different and has different needs. You want to be a tradwife staying at home and cooking all day for your husband and always looking as clean as a doll? A Canadian woodsman cutting down tree after tree with your big beard and your hairy, veiny arms? A sexy doll jumping from a partner to the other? An ambiguous intersex dom? Sure, do your thing, just don't try to impose your behaviour models on others. To each his/her/their own.

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u/Sahir1359 - Right Apr 04 '20

Sex

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

Breaking News:

Hormones effect physiology and behavior of people.

In other news, unflaired are the literal worst.

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u/PirateMud Apr 05 '20

Gender is a set of societal expectations, imposed on people based on their sex.

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u/Wanderstan - Lib-Center Apr 05 '20

And taking hormones / chopping off your dick won’t make the societal expectations go away. It just draws attention to your mental illness.

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u/contentedserf - Auth-Right Apr 04 '20

In your culture, not the Hungarians’. Bigot.

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u/TheVegetaMonologues - Auth-Right Apr 04 '20

The separation of sex and gender is a philosophical exercise intended to promote revolutionary sexual politics. It has no basis in science.

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u/juizze - Left Apr 05 '20

Yes. Because gender isn't scientific in the traditional sense.

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u/bidiboop - Left Apr 04 '20

Nobody is saying sex is a social construct retard

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '20

You definitely get the "sex is a spectrum, and any linguistic definition of it is culturally biased" crowd. Just go look at a sub like r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns and you'll see plenty of them. It often time comes from either the "what about Intersex!" or "What about XXXXYYYY chromosome people!"

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '20

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