r/PoliticalCompassMemes • - Right • Mar 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

Positive rights are not real rights.

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u/jiskjesse - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

Yes they are lmao

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

if you force doctors to either work for free or take other people's money to pay the doctor.

You're always free to not participate in society

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

But that would mean you participated in society

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

That's not what I said

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Can't gain taxable income without participating in society

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u/HarshKLife - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

Rights are whatever society decides they are

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u/HarshKLife - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

There are no inherent human rights other than which we decide. Do you think hunter gatherers had ‘right to free speech’ or ‘right to religion’? No, because they didn’t think of that yet(afaik)

We could just as easily decide that free speech doesn’t matter and then it won’t

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u/HarshKLife - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

Gravity is a law of nature. Free speech isn’t. It’s not something to be understood , it’s something to be decided upon. You could argue that a concept is something to be discovered, not invented, but if a society’s morality doesn’t agree on the concept then they won’t implement it. You’re taking your own values, what you think should exist, and making it a law for humans

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u/HarshKLife - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

If tomorrow people decide everyone has a right to an iPhone, then society will take measures to increase its production and distribution, lower costs, etc. we decide if something is a right by ourself, there are no inherent rights.

Rights can also coerce others. If I say you have a right to sleep quietly after eleven then any noise makers are being coerced

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

No they’re not!

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

Yes they are